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Finding Your Nativity Angel
05-15-2018, 07:06 PM
Post: #21
Well just tried this, apparently my Nativity Angel has a really cool name and is actually something that has been resonating with me for a while now but could not understand. Can't share it tho. Thanks Shinichi :-)

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05-16-2018, 01:15 AM
Post: #22
Reminds me a bit on the enochian weirdo names. I don’t believe everyone has a nativity spirit. It’s prideful to believe one is of importance in a cosmic infinity. Generally, things are food or breeding stock and death happens .................

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05-16-2018, 12:40 PM
Post: #23
(05-16-2018 01:15 AM)ZackDuckers Wrote:  Reminds me a bit on the enochian weirdo names. I don’t believe everyone has a nativity spirit. It’s prideful to believe one is of importance in a cosmic infinity. Generally, things are food or breeding stock and death happens .................

I agree, Still trying to contact mine to see if he is for or against me since I severed ties with YHVH.

It has a cool name tho.

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Eyen Tasa Valocur Lucifuge Rofocale
Linan Tesa Jedan King Paimon

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05-16-2018, 11:59 PM
Post: #24
I am still wrapping my head around the geosophia. The more histories and certain perspectives I read the more the big ole YHVH GOD YAHWEH YESHUA HOLY SPIRIT ALLAH jibberish gets chucked aside. The EL and angels with an -el gets a big meh as well.

Of course my cthonic thinking might be an utter perversion or deception to self.

From what I watched recently on trading empires is the genuine human is a bit too trusting in nature. If we weren’t then trade of goods and development of commercialism would never have come to be. Take that to the woo-factory of ethos and religions er culture, and maybe we as humans are too trusting of even our minds and perceptions.

Hell in my mind becomes less of hell as others view hell. It becomes just another thought afterlife possibility. I still believe the majority spirits are generally disinterested in the affairs of the living.

That said I heard a story told to my Ma by my aunt. My aunt loves psychics and supposedly with no info the psychic picked up on my other aunt (ma and the two aunts are sisters) had a trouble. Supposedly the psychic said their mother (my grandma er omashie) was watching them (she’s been dead for uh near 4 decades). She shook her head at the one aunt and the psychic said she watched my Ma and her painting.

Now I don’t know how much info my aunt gave so who knows. I know scams abound.

I should find one and try to get a COLD reading to verify if they can do anything.

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05-17-2018, 12:06 AM
Post: #25
(05-16-2018 01:15 AM)ZackDuckers Wrote:  Reminds me a bit on the enochian weirdo names. I don’t believe everyone has a nativity spirit. It’s prideful to believe one is of importance in a cosmic infinity. Generally, things are food or breeding stock and death happens .................

Not everyone has familiars and other kinds of spirit relationships that must be earned, but every human does in fact have a Natal spirit. This, and a few other spirits, are part of the celestial bureaucracy. It's literally their job to take care of us, or rather to administrate certain things that we are involved in. They aren't usually interested in us on a personal level, unless we use techniques like those in this thread to establish personal relationships, but that's just how bureaucracy works. Your local governor or senator isn't going to care about you on a personal level either, unless he knows who you are, but he's still in charge of things that directly affect your life.

(05-16-2018 12:40 PM)grundy Wrote:  
(05-16-2018 01:15 AM)ZackDuckers Wrote:  Reminds me a bit on the enochian weirdo names. I don’t believe everyone has a nativity spirit. It’s prideful to believe one is of importance in a cosmic infinity. Generally, things are food or breeding stock and death happens .................

I agree, Still trying to contact mine to see if he is for or against me since I severed ties with YHVH.

It has a cool name tho.

The name acquired in this thread is the name of the Natal Spirit who is in charge of bringing good things into your life, and although the name and technique utilizes Hebrew, the spirit itself is not necessarily bound to the Abrahamic perception of God specifically. Providence is much bigger than any one culture, after all. You can even ask for a different name to call the spirit by once you establish proper Contact.

There is a separate spirit of this same (Natal) rank, who is in charge of bringing all disease, discomfort, poverty, and similar "bad" things into your life. The name of this spirit is also acquired using the natal chart, but with a different method, and I didn't discuss that in this thread. You'll have to read Agrippa or some of the other articles and do that work by hand. It's probably wisest to use this name to bind the spirit from causing more harm, if you dig it up at all. Personally, I am choosing to focus on the positive side of things, since what we focus on is what we feed, and is what tends to manifest. Smiling



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05-17-2018, 01:44 AM
Post: #26
(05-16-2018 11:59 PM)ZackDuckers Wrote:  I am still wrapping my head around the geosophia. The more histories and certain perspectives I read the more the big ole YHVH GOD YAHWEH YESHUA HOLY SPIRIT ALLAH jibberish gets chucked aside. The EL and angels with an -el gets a big meh as well.

I hear ya Zack, the deeper you get into the lore, the more confounded it gets. Don't even get started on the Qliphoth as it also deals with the ain soph or the endless, supposedly where YHVH made him self manifest from.

in the gnostic Sense, The Ain Soph is also called the pluroma (sp?) where Sophia Originates from.....

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Eyen Tasa Valocur Lucifuge Rofocale
Linan Tesa Jedan King Paimon

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05-17-2018, 01:49 AM
Post: #27
The negative must’ve all I focus on. It’s a wonder I ain’t or more crippled. I still tend to just think “why?”

Why bother being involved with humans or anything period. If a true free will is supposedly possible then maybe absolutely one wants NO SPIRIT or being positive/negative involved in any condition of their living existence. Hell some might be hermitish and want none once dead.

Ancestors or otherwise a free will with zero influence or affluence by some bureaucrat beings seems like it would be part of a non-interference act or rule of law.

Begs the question on judgement by the same spiritual government which again would loop some to the idea “I didn’t create my inception so why should I be judged by some alien court?”

It’s the quickest route to send some to not only nihilism but hatred and wanting utter annihilation for self or the rest of existence.

And the real annoyance is the rumor or lore that various beings know our entire life path and/or choices (which means there’s really no fate or free will period) like we are just programs running in a section of time current.

We are then evaluated on what’re dictatorial system these beings have and judged and sentenced accordingly.

In many ways that possible train of thought makes one hope there really is NOT anything beyond life. That death is death and nothing more. ————————-flatline—————
Blank screen oblivion.

The problem with that is the eternal continuum of why can one even think or recall anything of thought/action if in eternity any space of time is inconsequential and too meaningless in the eternal infinity.

Why be tasked for any human?
What of aliens?
What about insects, plants, animals, microorganism, atoms of materials having their own “nativity” or creation being?

Why are such even needed? Are not the creation stable and functional on their own by whatever grand architect (s)?

Does this just fill the feel good chemicals that one is monitoring and watching? (Even if they really dont give a flying fuck about you personally since they don’t gain in some way.... it’s just a job by their boss)!




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05-17-2018, 02:41 AM
Post: #28
Zack

To quote Kratos "A choice from the gods is as useless as the gods themselves". It's one thing to seek annihilation as the only real choice. I wish to go the opposite route in that I feel the Puppeteer pulling our strings be annihilated. Perhaps that is also true freedom.

I'm not gonna go all Koetting on you but I do long to understand what I means to become a God.

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Eyen Tasa Valocur Lucifuge Rofocale
Linan Tesa Jedan King Paimon

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05-17-2018, 05:51 AM (This post was last modified: 05-17-2018 05:51 AM by ZackDuckers.)
Post: #29
Assuming there are tons of mega to ALL POWERFUL then it seems they’d just dominate and wipe out all lesser. OMNI POTENT SEEING PRESENT BEINGS (let’s say many) could play king of the mountain easily.


I mean what flipping use are mortals or fresh souls to them? We are less than bacteria to them. Useless parasites. So I can only see that they derive pleasure torturing all below.

And they will play games letting others believe they are powerful and climbing only to play:




FUCK YOU SMUG SMILING CLOUDS & SUN!!!

Sooooo...



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05-17-2018, 07:51 AM
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(05-17-2018 01:49 AM)ZackDuckers Wrote:  Why bother being involved with humans or anything period. If a true free will is supposedly possible then maybe absolutely one wants NO SPIRIT or being positive/negative involved in any condition of their living existence.


Very few beings in this world or any other have attained a truly free Will, having transcended all influences in heaven and earth, and earned the right to act freely.

Perhaps you think you are one of them, but I am still working on it. Smiling

(05-17-2018 01:49 AM)ZackDuckers Wrote:  Why be tasked for any human?
What of aliens?
What about insects, plants, animals, microorganism, atoms of materials having their own “nativity” or creation being?

It is precisely because humans are not the biggest thing on the block, or the most important, that there are administrators in charge of governing us and everything else. Yes, including the aliens and plants and animals.

Rather, instead of governing "us" specifically, they're really more in charge of the system we simply happen to be in - from what I understand, at least. But that still leaves us with a few direct connections, like the Natal Spirits, which as occultists can be very beneficial. Smiling



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