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Flying ointments
12-26-2016, 12:18 PM
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(12-25-2016 08:21 AM)Ryen Wrote:  
(12-25-2016 05:38 AM)travsha Wrote:  
(12-25-2016 05:27 AM)Ryen Wrote:  So you make an ointment with those herbs together or separate?

There are different recipes but generally the flying ointment is a combo of nightshades which often contain the alkaloids atropine, hyoscyamine and scopolamine.... These plants are psychoactive and potentially deadly.

Sorry, my question was worded pretty shitty. I'm aware of what a flying ointment is. I was asking Elysium if she made an ointment out of dittany, mugwort, and bay. Those are not psychoactive like nightshades so I was just curious what she did with the herbs.

I put them together in one ointment. They just felt right honestly.
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03-06-2017, 03:30 PM
Post: #12
Here's the one I use that works pretty well.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/199282749/s...s_search_1
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Here's another one I found containing Wormwood, Mugwort, Betel Nut, Cinquefoil, Mullein, Hibiscus, Red Clove, hand-harvested Dittany of Crete.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/55145598/wi..._gallery_1
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And another containing European Wormwood, Great Mullein, Enchanter's Herb, Mugwort, Yarrow, Star Anise, Balm of Gilead, Betel Nut, Dittany of Crete, Masterwort, Hemp Seed, Hibiscus and Five Finger Grass
https://www.etsy.com/listing/250809184/f...=related-7

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03-06-2017, 04:03 PM
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(03-06-2017 03:30 PM)Matt456 Wrote:  Here's the one I use that works pretty well.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/199282749/s...s_search_1

What does it do for you? What's the 'traditional' recipe for this? I'm curious
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03-06-2017, 04:45 PM (This post was last modified: 03-06-2017 04:57 PM by Matt456.)
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(03-06-2017 04:03 PM)Reizo Wrote:  
(03-06-2017 03:30 PM)Matt456 Wrote:  Here's the one I use that works pretty well.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/199282749/s...s_search_1

What does it do for you? What's the 'traditional' recipe for this? I'm curious

It's used to aid with astral projection. Witches would use this stuff back in the day to astral project and meet secretly. That way they could hold meetings privately with each other and prevent the risk of being persecuted for witchcraft. The article Feywer96 added written by sarah anne lawless explains the history of it. Since these are then non poisonous salves and aren't as strong I use it for different meditation practices. Does a good job of calming the mind.

(12-25-2016 03:01 AM)Elysium Mons Wrote:  Yeah Lawless is quite knowledgeable about them. I tried her flying ointment with aconite and sorely regretted it.

Where can you buy her ointments? I don't see them listed in the shop section of her website.

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03-06-2017, 05:12 PM
Post: #15
Maybe you have to be aware of when a new stock is dropping - it looks like all the flying ointments are sold out. In other news, I am trying the one from Mearas that contains Mandrake, will report back about it later...
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05-15-2017, 06:40 PM
Post: #16
(12-25-2016 04:03 AM)Elysium Mons Wrote:  Bay works wonders for me, though I couldn't tell you why.

Bay is mildly psychoactive and is postulated to be one of the herbs used by the oracle of Delphi.
To me, bay is strongly protective and I use it many ways.

Clary Sage can be an effective non-toxic flying ointment component.
For those looking to lucid dream I would suggest trying Valerian root - traditionally it aids sleep, I am unable to use it for this however, as when ever I take it I get raging, vivid, exhausting dreams.

A note to anyone reading this thread without the time or inclination to look deeply into that which they include; Tread VERY carefully with the tropane family alkaloids. Open head and dead are often very close.
Those plants with 'bane' in the name, along with mandrake and datura and brugmansia are NOT to be trifled with, or experimented with out of idle curiosity.
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05-16-2017, 01:51 AM
Post: #17
This is a common side effect from not taking the correct dosage of valerian. If you use decoction or even infusion methods of a teaspoon to 3 cups water, and add in California poppy, mugwort, lavender, and passionflower, you will balance the narcotic dream effect.
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05-16-2017, 01:59 AM
Post: #18
Someone told me california poppy flower petals makes a great sleepy time tea.
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05-16-2017, 02:14 AM
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How about Ayahuasca? Have any of you heard about this potion before? I heard it works pretty good for Astral projection
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05-16-2017, 02:45 AM (This post was last modified: 05-16-2017 02:49 AM by JintheNinja.)
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@feywer it's one of the best herbal "'mental health" herbs along with Indian ghost flower, may pop (American passionflower) and St. John's wort. Coincidentally the indigenous herbals are better for long term use, the European mental health herbs are for acute cases, as they have a very pronounced effect.

@aytida you don't really control the experience with ayahuasca, you can temper it, but it is like being in another verse. So you don't really have room to astral project" because you're kind of preoccupied with the experience. And you're already situated in a different place. You can go further into the world, but you're vulnerable.
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