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Is astral hearing basically hearing shit on your mind?
04-03-2016, 02:37 AM (This post was last modified: 04-03-2016 02:41 AM by MotherfuckerJones.)
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So when I call spirits, etc. I can easily hear them saying stuff to me. But upon a little inspection it is obvious that this shit is generated by me and in no way something external to me or something that I didn't know. I just imagine what spirit would say and hear it, it's usually retarded shit as soon as you get to the second sentence.

At what point do you know that shit you hear on your mind is not generated by you? Is it actually 100% obvious that it is spirit talking when it ACTUALLY happens? How the fuck do you discern?
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04-03-2016, 05:54 AM
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Here are a few tips for helping with discernment regarding clairaudience with spirits.

1. Specific allotment/dedication of time or space that is dedicated to sitting down and listening to them
(For instance, every day at 8 AM or 5 PM for so many minutes, you sit down in a particular spot or within a circle drawn, consecrated, and enchanted for the purpose of spirit communication; This way they are not chatting you up all the time and mingling with your own thoughts during your daily business, but instead have a structured time when they can contact you.)
2. Using various forms of divination to detect or verify the presence and communication of spirits
(Burning a candle that is dedicated to the very purpose of detecting a (specific) spirit's presence or need to communicate with you; you can also supplement this with dice, cards, runes, and other various forms of divination. My suggestion is to at least use two forms of divination)
3. Establishing or identifying the sign a certain spirit uses to make sure that they are specifically present, and not others
(Some spirits will herald their presence by producing certain phenomena; this could be shapes in smoke, specific candle flame activity, a sudden fragrance filling your nostrils not produced by incense or spray in the area, certain sounds such as barking, meowing, yowling, howling, or a certain bird species' chirping/hooting/honking, or even the appearance of a certain plant, animal, or insect.)

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so the soul moves all the members of the body to contribute something
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04-03-2016, 05:57 AM
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It takes experience. It IS hearing shit in your mind at first. Some of it may or may not be mental masturbation (when you make stuff up). Mental masturbation can be distinguished from actual communication by its intensity. Mental masturbation will feel like your own thought, but communication feels like something foreign, as if someone were to whisper softly into your ear.

Of course, this ceases to be a problem when you build up your astral hearing enough to be able to hear spirits as well as you could hear any ordinary person talking to you.
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04-03-2016, 09:10 AM
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Everyone has an inner voice. It changes and you loose control over it when you evoke spirits properly. When you get beyond the hearing shit in your mind stage it becomes something external. That's the tricky part, getting beyond the hearing shit in you mind stage. Not all spirits sound like a self help guru. So it takes some time, patience and practice in order to make sure your not hearing what you want to hear.

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04-04-2016, 09:31 AM (This post was last modified: 04-04-2016 09:41 AM by Magickinqu.)
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(04-03-2016 09:10 AM)ignus_fatuus Wrote:  Everyone has an inner voice. It changes and you loose control over it when you evoke spirits properly. When you get beyond the hearing shit in your mind stage it becomes something external. That's the tricky part, getting beyond the hearing shit in you mind stage. Not all spirits sound like a self help guru. So it takes some time, patience and practice in order to make sure your not hearing what you want to hear.

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04-04-2016, 11:05 AM
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(04-04-2016 09:31 AM)Magickinqu Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 09:10 AM)ignus_fatuus Wrote:  Everyone has an inner voice. It changes and you loose control over it when you evoke spirits properly. When you get beyond the hearing shit in your mind stage it becomes something external. That's the tricky part, getting beyond the hearing shit in you mind stage. Not all spirits sound like a self help guru. So it takes some time, patience and practice in order to make sure your not hearing what you want to hear.

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Elaborate please.
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04-04-2016, 11:11 AM
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(04-04-2016 11:05 AM)MotherfuckerJones Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 09:31 AM)Magickinqu Wrote:  
(04-03-2016 09:10 AM)ignus_fatuus Wrote:  Everyone has an inner voice. It changes and you loose control over it when you evoke spirits properly. When you get beyond the hearing shit in your mind stage it becomes something external. That's the tricky part, getting beyond the hearing shit in you mind stage. Not all spirits sound like a self help guru. So it takes some time, patience and practice in order to make sure your not hearing what you want to hear.

No.
The longer You think like that the longer you run in circles Magickally
Elaborate please.

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We transcend this world only when we shut the mind down and believe that we can.When things start to reach out, if we don't listen thibkin it's still our thoughts we can't grow, and I love Horrible bosses as well Jones, lol

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04-04-2016, 04:36 PM
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Yeah, that sounds like great way to self delusion. It has to be different, if it's just a thought that can be generated by your mind then you are nuts for believing anything.
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04-04-2016, 05:17 PM
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(04-04-2016 04:36 PM)MotherfuckerJones Wrote:  Yeah, that sounds like great way to self delusion. It has to be different, if it's just a thought that can be generated by your mind then you are nuts for believing anything.

So you have some experience with this when ur so proud telling us its all a delusion by ourself. Share your experience if you have one.
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04-04-2016, 08:26 PM
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(04-04-2016 04:36 PM)MotherfuckerJones Wrote:  Yeah, that sounds like great way to self delusion. It has to be different, if it's just a thought that can be generated by your mind then you are nuts for believing anything.

The point is with enough training People learn to tell the difference.

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