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Mapacho Tobacco
06-09-2016, 12:00 PM
Post: #1
So, I accidentally ordered some mapacho and it's looking happy and starting to flower . As far as using it for offerings, does anybody know some good ways to harvest, prepare it and serve it up as a yummy offering, or where to find some traditional curing recipes?
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06-09-2016, 04:37 PM
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I used them as mapacho cigarettes already made while I was in Peru so I couldn't say more than that.

Shaman smoke them daily (and many of them). They also use them constantly to bless, heal, or as an offering to spirits.

Sorry I cant be more helpful.

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06-09-2016, 11:00 PM
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(06-09-2016 04:37 PM)Angelo Wrote:  I used them as mapacho cigarettes already made while I was in Peru so I couldn't say more than that.

Shaman smoke them daily (and many of them). They also use them constantly to bless, heal, or as an offering to spirits.

Sorry I cant be more helpful.

Thanks Angelo. There doesn't seem to be much on traditional preparations but I did find this and it seems like a pretty lengthy, tedious and interesting process (atleast the way they do it) Maybe I'll give it a go. They did have this to say:
Curing Mapacho is an art in the Amazon. It can be very labor-intensive and take weeks of attention to produce the best shamanic Mapacho. There are many different techniques — like techniques in brewing beer, only this involves magic in the process. There are probably short-cut methods that would give you a usable product. But all the Mapacho I ever saw cured in the Amazon was over smoky fires, the leaves bathed with wild honey, aguardiente, vanilla bean tea, and/or other teas or liquids, sometimes re-impregnated with Mapacho juice … basically, it’s an art. And everyone has their own way of doing it. Mapacho

So what did you think of the Peruvian Mapacho ciggs you tried?
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06-09-2016, 11:49 PM
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PM a member here named Travsha. He works with plant medicines regularly and even has a book on plant medicines. He could probably guide you in a good direction.

I know that it's used in rapè (pronounced hapeh) which is snorted, and used to cleanse areas and item. I think the smoke itself is an offering, like incense is used sometimes.

Supposedly it's really strong stuff, and has curative properties as well. Let us know how the curing goes! Good luck!

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06-10-2016, 02:06 AM
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(06-09-2016 11:00 PM)Chazaq Wrote:  
(06-09-2016 04:37 PM)Angelo Wrote:  I used them as mapacho cigarettes already made while I was in Peru so I couldn't say more than that.

Shaman smoke them daily (and many of them). They also use them constantly to bless, heal, or as an offering to spirits.

Sorry I cant be more helpful.

Thanks Angelo. There doesn't seem to be much on traditional preparations but I did find this and it seems like a pretty lengthy, tedious and interesting process (atleast the way they do it) Maybe I'll give it a go. They did have this to say:
Curing Mapacho is an art in the Amazon. It can be very labor-intensive and take weeks of attention to produce the best shamanic Mapacho. There are many different techniques — like techniques in brewing beer, only this involves magic in the process. There are probably short-cut methods that would give you a usable product. But all the Mapacho I ever saw cured in the Amazon was over smoky fires, the leaves bathed with wild honey, aguardiente, vanilla bean tea, and/or other teas or liquids, sometimes re-impregnated with Mapacho juice … basically, it’s an art. And everyone has their own way of doing it. Mapacho

So what did you think of the Peruvian Mapacho ciggs you tried?

I was not a smoker (ok I quit but I smoked them when I went to Peru) and was surprised to be able to smoke them daily. They are very pleasant to smoke and not that rough.

They have various sizes, some are bigger than others and are sold everywhere, like 100 of them for like $10 (dont remember exactly but something like that).

I still have some, like 20 or 30 at my place.

Before drinking the Ayahuasca, the shamans used to take a puff and blow the smoke on the juice before drinking it (or giving it to you). Some others times they took a puff and blew the smoke on the top of your head.

One day a dude arrived from Colombia (they make mapachos there too) and gave it one to me. It was clearly different. Maybe more tasty I'd say, I was pleasantly surprised.

I used some mapachos on someone who had painful ears and he didn't suffer for 24 ort 48 hours after I blew the smoke on them. It was quite an interesting experience.

I'm not sure about the mapachos you can buy online, no control of quality. But if you buy them directly in Peru or Colombia, you will be more than happy.

And yes, Travsha is the one who could give more insights.

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06-17-2016, 06:31 AM
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I was not a smoker (ok I quit but I smoked them when I went to Peru) and was surprised to be able to smoke them daily. They are very pleasant to smoke and not that rough.

They have various sizes, some are bigger than others and are sold everywhere, like 100 of them for like $10 (dont remember exactly but something like that).

I still have some, like 20 or 30 at my place.

Before drinking the Ayahuasca, the shamans used to take a puff and blow the smoke on the juice before drinking it (or giving it to you). Some others times they took a puff and blew the smoke on the top of your head.

One day a dude arrived from Colombia (they make mapachos there too) and gave it one to me. It was clearly different. Maybe more tasty I'd say, I was pleasantly surprised.

I used some mapachos on someone who had painful ears and he didn't suffer for 24 ort 48 hours after I blew the smoke on them. It was quite an interesting experience.

I'm not sure about the mapachos you can buy online, no control of quality. But if you buy them directly in Peru or Colombia, you will be more than happy.

And yes, Travsha is the one who could give more insights.
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Thank you, It sounds like an interesting experience. Peru is definitely on my destination list.

Thanks everyone for the advice.
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06-17-2016, 06:42 AM
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You are welcome !

And yes, Peru is a great country to visit, especially if you are involved into shamanic practices.

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11-11-2016, 01:08 AM
Post: #8
Angelo gives very good direction whether he admits it or notWink. Tobacco is the greatest offering to the great spirit (God) and invoking the power of other spirits. You dry the leaves and flowers and make dry bundles. They can be left as offerings as such, or lit and "smudged" or made into hand rolled cigarettes.
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11-11-2016, 01:12 AM
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(06-09-2016 11:49 PM)Ryen Wrote:  PM a member here named Travsha. He works with plant medicines regularly and even has a book on plant medicines. He could probably guide you in a good direction.

I know that it's used in rapè (pronounced hapeh) which is snorted, and used to cleanse areas and item. I think the smoke itself is an offering, like incense is used sometimes.

Supposedly it's really strong stuff, and has curative properties as well. Let us know how the curing goes! Good luck!

Good suggestion! Travsha is very helpful towards people and works with real people who are familiar with these sorts of things!
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11-11-2016, 02:29 AM
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Tobacco is the king of plants. Possibly the most versatile and useful plant spirit of all. Some shamans heal with just tobacco and nothing else - I am actually thinking of apprenticing to one of those in the next few years if I can save up enough....

The snippit you copied of someone curing tobacco in a really complicated manner does not sound like what most people are doing down there to me.... Maybe that was a certain tribal way of doing it. From what I hear they usually just use the Aguardiente (alcohol from sugar cane) to sterilize it and then they dry it for a long time in large bundles. I bet you could do all other types of things to it t make it taste different or add your own energy/intention to it, but most shamans I met just buy whatever mapacho is in the market - and for the most part it all seems to be the same quality (some is fresher or older, but not really different). You can buy a pack of 100 mapachos for about $3 all handrolled, so they are very cheap. I think you could look up recipes on how to cure any tobacco and if you find one using alcohol to sterilize and then drying it properly you could attempt that with the mapacho and see how it goes.

If you are not ingesting it you may not need to cure it perfectly to get a decent product. If you are just spreading the leaves as offering then it might not matter if it is cured perfectly.

There are many ways to use tobacco. Obviously there is smoking it, and someone else mentioned rappe which is a powdered dry snuff (amazing stuff). There is also rapote where you soak the leaves in water and snort the water (like a liquid rappe but stronger). You can also drink a tea made from the leaves to induce a purge. Some tribes also make a syrup that they suck on in their mouths, or make a paste that is rubbed on the skin. And sometimes the leaves are sprinkled as offerings or tied up in little pouches used for protection and offerings.

Tobacco is an amplifier of intention and also a vehicle for intention. When you smoke it your thoughts and intentions are amplified and taken to the Spirits. That is why it is so harmful when used mindlessly and habitually - just imagine someone on their smoke break at work thinking about how stressed they are about bills and how much they hate their boss or job - then all that gets amplified! But used mindfully it can amplify your prayers and carry your intentions through ceremony space.

It also specializes in teaching protection, cleansing, heart opening, magic and healing, and is great for helping you connect with all other spirits.

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