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Sports Betting?
02-11-2016, 04:53 AM
Post: #21
I used Bovada and Horary Astrology for a while to predict the outcomes at a very high rate. I quit after I found an actual non-scammer passive income site lol.
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05-02-2016, 06:27 AM
Post: #22
Long time forum reader here and I have just accidentally clicked on money making thread.
Anyway from somebody who has been on both sides in betting industry first to crunch some numbers since betting is actually not about luck,its about mathematics and self discipline.
3-8 % of people are actually in profit in long run and betting is not a sprint,its a marathon with ups and downs.
So you want to get in that few % of profitable guys?
First you need to make a bank,the money that is for betting only and in your mind you just need to say goodbye to that money from start.
How much money needs to be in bank is up for discussion and personal goals but if you want to make a living out of betting i wouldnt recommend anything under 10k $.
20k would be perfect.
This also depends very much on the country you are living in and the standard of living.
Now what you want to do is spread that money on couple of shops if you are betting online(better margins,lower company sugar!,more betting choices) and left some money in your internet wallet.
next thing is actuall betting.
Bet singles only,I cant stress how much is this important,fuck doubles,trebles,combos and all the shit.SINGLES ONLY!
To explain you why singles lets take just example of soccer.
So you have 1,x and 2=33% chance to win your bet in single,make it double and you have 9 possible outcomes and that equals 11% of chance to win your bet,and make it treble you have 3% of the chance to win your bet.
You see the picture?
As for guys who like things like stock markets,there is betfair and betfair is exactlly that,a betting stock market where you bet against other people.
You can act like shop there also with the lay option.
Anyway professional betting is job like any other,you need to acutally invest time and money to make something out of it.
Want to take it to really another level?
Set up a team of guys and everyone specialise in 1 sport.
Like in a normal company with working hours and dont forget to buy a big fucking board because trust me you will need one because things can at times get really messy.
For all the questions feel free to PM me and ill be happy to anwser.

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Sorry for my grammar mistakes,im not native speaker.
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05-17-2016, 03:29 AM
Post: #23
Sports bettings? I know of matched betting and arbitrary betting that makes money. Besides that any other method is gambling, not guaratneed profits in any way. I have done matched betting using this website: http://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/ideva...hp?id=6260 (UK only) for a few months now. Precisely got my first memebrship in September 2015. It wokrs, and theres tons of people on the fourm of it making at least 2k £ monthly. I dont make near that much because I been a bit disorganised and lazy.

Matched betting is easy, all you need is to be careful! I lost 150 in one game because I forgot to lay my bet Sad 2. Get a good spreasheet and record everything so you KNOW waht you are doing. 3. well put the time in it and learn about ALL types of offers that you can master 4 and most important. Master mug betting. Well nothing to master just ALWAYS think long-term like jeff bezos, thats why amazon is so succesful.

Im not full time in it yet but I intend to in the coming weeks. Theres like versions of it for the usa or other countries IM sure, if not you can learn on how to profit from offers in other countries Smiling. I can answer any questions, if you have any but thats about all there is to be said about it anyway...if you are willing to put in the time to master all types of offer and toactually do a lot fo them to make money then 1-3k monthly is guaranteed in your pocket from home. A lot of people are doing it full-time. And since this is an occult forum. I wonder if using magick could help it. Like some jupiterian luck on the casino offers LOL ! Tounge
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06-01-2016, 06:22 AM (This post was last modified: 06-01-2016 06:39 AM by juledianwindrider.)
Post: #24
I sports bet - it should be easy and I should win but I lack discipline and that is probably all there is to it. Just before I wrote this post I bet £5 on a sports bet - just after I posted it i won 12 quid. lol. Doh just lost it.

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06-29-2016, 06:11 PM
Post: #25
I do well betting on horseracing (uk), but have been shut down by online firms, it is a hard game but if you have discipline, understand the concept of value work hard,betting, study the form, and stats, you can make horseracing pay.
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07-14-2016, 07:11 PM
Post: #26
I'm thinking of starting a racing tipping service, 3 winners saturday 8-1,11-2, 7-1!!
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08-06-2016, 09:27 PM
Post: #27
Yup I know a guy that wins literally 90% of bets and he's doing a "Betting service" pretty much his customers never lost just wondering how D:
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08-10-2016, 10:24 AM (This post was last modified: 08-10-2016 01:18 PM by superpact.)
Post: #28
I do not know if this was mentioned but there is a waY to make money (Theoretically) risk free from certain sport matches mostly soccer (aka football) by utilizing sport gambling arbitrage. Look up Sport Betting arbitrage. the winning are not high but theoretically due to the way the odds are set up you can bet on both teams and no matter who wins you can make a small profit this can be done consistently. Is it worth it IDK. The problem is that most of these matches occur outside the united states and the gambling sites that are legitimate that would allow an arbitrage set up will not allow united states citizen to bet there. Even if they did you would run into whats call currency risk when you hedge the currency back to USD. Alternatively you can increase your money during currency conversion if rates are favorable but that would be an unrealized gain because currency conversion services usually charge a unfavorable fee to do business. So if you were to embark on this venture find out all the associated fees and from there determine if you are at a realized profit once the money reaches you since the profits are not large

Arbitrage:When used by academics, an arbitrage is a transaction that involves no negative cash flow at any probabilistic or temporal state and a positive cash flow in at least one state; in simple terms, it is the possibility of a risk-free profit after transaction costs. For instance, an arbitrage is present when there is the opportunity to instantaneously buy low and sell high.

EXAMPLE:
Soccer – UEFA – Bucharest Vs Madrid

Pinnacle Sports offered odds of 2.08 on Bucharest with a +0.5 handicap.

Victor Chandler offered odds of 2.02 on Real Madrid with a -0.5 handicap.

$1000 x 2.08 = $480.76
$1000 x 2.02 = $495.05
So if we place a $480 bet on Bucharest (+0.5) at Pinnacle Sports and a $495 bet on Real Madrid (-0.5) at Victor Chandler, we commit $975 in bets to win roughly $1000 regardless of the outcome..

In the end Real Madrid won, securing the $24.90 profit:

$495 x 2.02 = $999.90
$999.90 – $975 = $24.90
That is a 2.55% return on investment.

If Bucharest had won, the profit would have been $24.90:

$480 x 2.08 = $998.40
$998.40 – $975 = $23.40
Which would have been an equally impressive 2.4% return on investment.

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08-10-2016, 05:05 PM
Post: #29
(08-10-2016 10:24 AM)superpact Wrote:  I do not know if this was mentioned but there is a waY to make money (Theoretically) risk free from certain sport matches mostly soccer (aka football) by utilizing sport gambling arbitrage. Look up Sport Betting arbitrage. the winning are not high but theoretically due to the way the odds are set up you can bet on both teams and no matter who wins you can make a small profit this can be done consistently. Is it worth it IDK. The problem is that most of these matches occur outside the united states and the gambling sites that are legitimate that would allow an arbitrage set up will not allow united states citizen to bet there. Even if they did you would run into whats call currency risk when you hedge the currency back to USD. Alternatively you can increase your money during currency conversion if rates are favorable but that would be an unrealized gain because currency conversion services usually charge a unfavorable fee to do business. So if you were to embark on this venture find out all the associated fees and from there determine if you are at a realized profit once the money reaches you since the profits are not large

Arbitrage:When used by academics, an arbitrage is a transaction that involves no negative cash flow at any probabilistic or temporal state and a positive cash flow in at least one state; in simple terms, it is the possibility of a risk-free profit after transaction costs. For instance, an arbitrage is present when there is the opportunity to instantaneously buy low and sell high.

EXAMPLE:
Soccer – UEFA – Bucharest Vs Madrid

Pinnacle Sports offered odds of 2.08 on Bucharest with a +0.5 handicap.

Victor Chandler offered odds of 2.02 on Real Madrid with a -0.5 handicap.

$1000 x 2.08 = $480.76
$1000 x 2.02 = $495.05
So if we place a $480 bet on Bucharest (+0.5) at Pinnacle Sports and a $495 bet on Real Madrid (-0.5) at Victor Chandler, we commit $975 in bets to win roughly $1000 regardless of the outcome..

In the end Real Madrid won, securing the $24.90 profit:

$495 x 2.02 = $999.90
$999.90 – $975 = $24.90
That is a 2.55% return on investment.

If Bucharest had won, the profit would have been $24.90:

$480 x 2.08 = $998.40
$998.40 – $975 = $23.40
Which would have been an equally impressive 2.4% return on investment.

Interesting post, thanks a lot. While searching on the internet i found some sport arbitrage alert services : http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/blog/components/alerts/

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08-10-2016, 05:23 PM (This post was last modified: 08-10-2016 05:42 PM by superpact.)
Post: #30
(08-10-2016 05:05 PM)HuMan Wrote:  
(08-10-2016 10:24 AM)superpact Wrote:  I do not know if this was mentioned but there is a waY to make money (Theoretically) risk free from certain sport matches mostly soccer (aka football) by utilizing sport gambling arbitrage. Look up Sport Betting arbitrage. the winning are not high but theoretically due to the way the odds are set up you can bet on both teams and no matter who wins you can make a small profit this can be done consistently. Is it worth it IDK. The problem is that most of these matches occur outside the united states and the gambling sites that are legitimate that would allow an arbitrage set up will not allow united states citizen to bet there. Even if they did you would run into whats call currency risk when you hedge the currency back to USD. Alternatively you can increase your money during currency conversion if rates are favorable but that would be an unrealized gain because currency conversion services usually charge a unfavorable fee to do business. So if you were to embark on this venture find out all the associated fees and from there determine if you are at a realized profit once the money reaches you since the profits are not large

Arbitrage:When used by academics, an arbitrage is a transaction that involves no negative cash flow at any probabilistic or temporal state and a positive cash flow in at least one state; in simple terms, it is the possibility of a risk-free profit after transaction costs. For instance, an arbitrage is present when there is the opportunity to instantaneously buy low and sell high.

EXAMPLE:
Soccer – UEFA – Bucharest Vs Madrid

Pinnacle Sports offered odds of 2.08 on Bucharest with a +0.5 handicap.

Victor Chandler offered odds of 2.02 on Real Madrid with a -0.5 handicap.

$1000 x 2.08 = $480.76
$1000 x 2.02 = $495.05
So if we place a $480 bet on Bucharest (+0.5) at Pinnacle Sports and a $495 bet on Real Madrid (-0.5) at Victor Chandler, we commit $975 in bets to win roughly $1000 regardless of the outcome..

In the end Real Madrid won, securing the $24.90 profit:

$495 x 2.02 = $999.90
$999.90 – $975 = $24.90
That is a 2.55% return on investment.

If Bucharest had won, the profit would have been $24.90:

$480 x 2.08 = $998.40
$998.40 – $975 = $23.40
Which would have been an equally impressive 2.4% return on investment.

Interesting post, thanks a lot. While searching on the internet i found some sport arbitrage alert services : http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/blog/components/alerts/

I dont wish to give unsolicited advice but this is to everyone reading this. learn to do the math yourself. learn set ups (possible arbitrage odds) then you dont have to pay other for tips you can search yourself, then maybe in time you can create your own alert service. Then you have two sources of revenue or three if you have a job


Also calculate realized versus unrealized gains to see is a bet is worth it. because you can still end up losing money even if you win due to fees. such as currency conversion. If you sign up for alerts know how much you need to break even.

this is not limited to soccer but it occurs mostly in that realm and fairly often last time I checked.

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