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Your ideas on socialism?
02-02-2016, 10:12 PM
Post: #1
What are your opinions of socialism.

Everyone seems to want it and think it's the best thing. So I'm wishing to know everyone's thoughts.

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02-02-2016, 10:51 PM
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Define "socialism" - it has a broad range of possible applications and meanings and therefore has become a very loaded word. In many ways we are living under a Democratic Socialism already here in the US.

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02-02-2016, 10:56 PM
Post: #3
Well I guess the type Obama and sanders want

Free health care for everyone, free school etc

And then there's the type in Europe. That type lol. Sorry that's the best definition I could muster.

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02-02-2016, 11:04 PM
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(02-02-2016 10:56 PM)Mider2009 Wrote:  Well I guess the type Obama and sanders want

Free health care for everyone, free school etc

And then there's the type in Europe. That type lol. Sorry that's the best definition I could muster.

I think if you want to look at what such a system could look like then look to those countries and ask yourself if you'd rather live like they do. There are positives and negatives to every system. I also think that there are people of varying temperaments that would enjoy their lives better under different forms of governance - some people need to be provided for more and be told what to do, others thrive better when freer.

Myself, I enjoy capitalism with basic controls put in place to protect the populace. It's enough freedom to succeed or fail as you will it, but not so much so one's Constitutionally ordained rights are easily infringed upon. Nothing is perfect, but the degree of freedom to ascend or descend is important to me so a "reasonable capitalism" appeals the most to my sentiments.

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02-02-2016, 11:19 PM
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Pro.

But sadly it won't fly without first mending a fundamentally broken society.

In my utopia, things are run through a version of Marxism.

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02-02-2016, 11:23 PM
Post: #6
I think there needs to be more of a balance

I for one recieve SSI, medicare, and such and can say they aren't the best thing. I live with family though so thankfully am not dependent on the government. I see a normal dr, dentist etc.

When I've had to rely on the gov the experience was less then positive. Waiting 3 hours in a dr office, my issue where my kidney stone was misdiagnosed and I had to visit the ER 5 times in the span of three months.

Others I've met who rely on such programs also have very bad experiences. An ex marine I knew said it was so most guarantied the VA would lose his medication while giving him poor service. I know families of four who need food stamps and yet live in shacks etc.

As for those other countries no I'd rather not live there. The majority of ones income goes to taxes and I've heard horror stories of people waiting weeks just to get a needed operation.

I think another issue is that the programs go largely unregulated. I've met more then one person who gets benefits yet they are healthy enough to work and often do. That marine I mentioned made a very good pension.

So I agree with you I prefer capitalism.

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02-03-2016, 12:50 AM
Post: #7
You realise your current understanding of government initiatives is under the guise of a capitalist regime, right? You can't really stipulate what it would be like by referring to examples from within a capitalist system. And healthcare is but one single component of a hugely complex political ideal.

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02-03-2016, 12:54 AM
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take a look on canada,the sistema is great,now take cuba,free everything,and its a hell living tere,venezuela' is another country,here the states,back in the day stanley leader,and Benito Mussolini, just compare,here its heaven
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02-03-2016, 01:01 AM
Post: #9
As I said I actually recieve "benefits" so if know more about it then you Harv

Also I mentioned socialist countries aren't any better.

There's a lot of issues I've seen beside medical coverage including city housing, food stamps, etc

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02-03-2016, 02:16 AM
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You think you receiving benefits enables you to speak about a communist regime with any authority?

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