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Your ideas on socialism?
02-04-2016, 08:32 AM
Post: #21
(02-04-2016 08:25 AM)A LEADER Wrote:  Your reputation precedes you..

Nope, you just wish it did and you wish that what you think you know is true ;-). Anyway, what does anyone's reputation have to do with this thread or topic at hand? Are you going just to neglect the information I have sent because it was sent by me? That's childish.
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02-04-2016, 09:07 AM
Post: #22
I think all modes of government and economy are out of date.
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02-04-2016, 10:20 AM (This post was last modified: 02-04-2016 10:25 AM by Mider2009.)
Post: #23
I'm discussing socialism in the form we see in places like Greece, Sweden etc

You're correct that socialism is a form of communism though.

None the less most governments that are known as socialist DO NOT own all property do they?

Aren't you from a socialist country akenu? Don't you own private property?

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02-04-2016, 04:08 PM
Post: #24
Well it's clear by now A LEADER doesn't know what he's talking about. As per usual. Espcially when he mentioned socialism and communism are apples and oranges. I'll just sit here patiently in waiting for his ad hominem response.

To stay on topic, however, there are no truly socialist countries. It's simply an ideal of which some countries implement bits and pieces. While some countries may be more socialist than others, I feel as though the full benefits of socialism cannot be realised unless the entire country is completely committed to it in every facet. Which seems to be unlikely to happen any time soon.

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02-04-2016, 05:10 PM
Post: #25
@Harvey: Marx said that socialism would be heaven on earth, but it would have to origin from a fully developed capitalistic state.
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02-04-2016, 06:16 PM
Post: #26
(02-04-2016 05:10 PM)Frater.Akenu Wrote:  @Harvey: Marx said that socialism would be heaven on earth, but it would have to origin from a fully developed capitalistic state.

Agreed with the notion but it would take much more than simply overthrowing a developed capitalist state. Would require a much further development of the intricacies of socialism and how it'd function in a particular culture.

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02-04-2016, 06:29 PM
Post: #27
The thing is there isn't an fully developed capitalistic country and paradozically one closest to this ideal state is China :-D.
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02-04-2016, 06:45 PM
Post: #28
Still think there should be a means by which we can remove capitalism and introduce socialism without violent revolution.

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02-04-2016, 07:05 PM
Post: #29
(02-04-2016 06:45 PM)Harvey Wrote:  Still think there should be a means by which we can remove capitalism and introduce socialism without violent revolution.

Well, my country was able to turn from communism into social democracy non-violently back when it was still a Czechoslovakia Smiling.
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02-04-2016, 09:28 PM (This post was last modified: 02-06-2016 04:55 AM by Mider2009.)
Post: #30
As I said Harvey there's nothing great about socialism.

Is Australia socialist or rather how are Australia's services such as health care, free food etc?

Or should I stay out of this so you and akenu make sweet sweet love?

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