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Zhuan Falun (Turning The Law Wheel)
01-03-2017, 04:59 PM
Post: #1
Hi all,

I've come across a fascinating book that talks about high level spiritual things from a scientific perspective. This book is intriguing as it talks about many similar things to what people in mystical states mention such as seeing into parallel dimensions and interacting with beings from other worlds etc.

This book is called Zhuan Falun and it is from the Buddha Law School of Cultivation however it is not Buddhism the religion or Daoism the religion, it's something more profound. It seems to me to be more of a spiritual science as many of the terms and concepts in the book are talked about in a scientific down to earth manner instead of flowery mystical prose which I found very refreshing.

Now here is where it gets interesting, this book talks about the following things:

● Other Dimensions - Levels Of Dimensions spanning into the microcosm and also outwards into the macrocosm

● The Soul - It talks about people having a Master soul and a subordinate soul which is hidden from you but is at a more advanced level then you, it states some people have more then one Subordinate soul and some are of not of the same sex as you i.e males having a female subordinate soul etc.

● Microcosmic worlds - This concept was very far out but it talks about there being worlds within you, countless worlds. Similar to our world with life , water, animals etc. An analogy is zooming an an atom within one of your cells and realizing at that level of magnification it is just like our solar system. Then zooming into a single particle in that world and finding out it too is a vast world, apparently the level it can go onwards like this is beyond imagination.

● Supernatural Abilities - In the book they mention that everyone has them it is just that they have atrophied. It goes into depth about this topic. Some abilities that are mentioned are precognition, retrocognition and remote vision.

● The 3rd Eye - Talks about how at the front part of our pineal gland there is a complete structure of an eye there. Modern science calls it a vestigial eye but in the cultivation world they say this eye just naturally exists like that and it can be activated allowing one to pierce through this dimension and see other dimensions. It talks about how there are many levels to this 3rd eye and it goes into great depth about it.

● Thoughts - This part was amazing. It talks about how a human brain is just a processing plant. How the real you is actually your soul, it's like your whole body and brain is just a vehicle and that the true commands are issued by your master soul, but this master soul is very tiny and it can switch positions while inside you and it can also expand and shrink. It can move from your brain to your heart and to other parts of your body and it is 'he' who calls the shots. Your brain is just the factory which your master soul sends his cosmic commands to which then create the forms of expression and communication we use such as speech, gestures, etc.

These are just a few things that are covered but there are many many other things which blew my mind when I read it because of how it resonated with some of the mystical experiences people sometimes have, especially the multidimensional nature of reality and how all of them are hidden in our day to day perceptions of the world.

If this sounds interesting to anyone you can grab a copy of the book here:

http://en.falundafa.org/eng/pdf/ZFL2014.pdf
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01-03-2017, 05:10 PM
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Welcome to the forum!

First of all, as your first post, I am very impressed. You typed all of that out very eloquently, and with a great voice coming through! I look forward to more posts from you Happy. I took a look at the book and it looks like a great read! Lots of things on the occult and scientific from what I glanced over. Thanks for the post, and I hope you have as much fun here as I have had.
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01-04-2017, 02:22 AM
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Interestingly, a lot of these concepts align heavily with my trad witch, animistic pagan views.

Take the master soul and second soul, whom in my tradition, is the eternal spirit that we are, piloting the vehicle of flesh we call a body, and a secondary soul, the fetch, a member of the hobb-gentry that for whatever reason fate has dictated, guides you. Most of the time this being appears as the opposite sex (exceptions of course), and it is infact, more inter-subjective and aware of the all than we are, as beings whom are temporarily human and subjective. Those who have weak ones tend to die or have terrible luck (children who die either had their leave them or it was not powerful enough).

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01-04-2017, 06:14 PM
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Thankyou for the warm welcome Dr StrangeStuff. : )

You're welcome and happy to have shared it with the community. I hope people find it of interest.

Yes Fergnosis the topic of the subordinate soul is indeed interesting. It goes into more depth about it in the book, I only gave a scant bullet point description.

It talks about how some people can even have up to five subordinate souls and that many Cultivation schools of the past trained their subordinate souls and not the Master soul itself.
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01-04-2017, 09:57 PM
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Quote:● Microcosmic worlds - This concept was very far out but it talks about there being worlds within you, countless worlds. Similar to our world with life , water, animals etc. An analogy is zooming an an atom within one of your cells and realizing at that level of magnification it is just like our solar system. Then zooming into a single particle in that world and finding out it too is a vast world, apparently the level it can go onwards like this is beyond imagination.

I had thought on this for years. That inside every person is the possibility of many worlds. I dont know how many cells we have, and how many compounds down to atoms and smaller. I a person could be trillions or more worlds depending on our survival. In a sense we are a god to those worlds but we basically try to see our self survive. A symbiotic god, we need them to be tied to the flesh lest we all perish. And they probably dont know we even exist.

Yeah, ever since silver surfer tried to get away from galactus i thought about it.

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01-05-2017, 02:07 AM
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(01-04-2017 09:57 PM)FarhnamDrunk Wrote:  
Quote:● Microcosmic worlds - This concept was very far out but it talks about there being worlds within you, countless worlds. Similar to our world with life , water, animals etc. An analogy is zooming an an atom within one of your cells and realizing at that level of magnification it is just like our solar system. Then zooming into a single particle in that world and finding out it too is a vast world, apparently the level it can go onwards like this is beyond imagination.

I had thought on this for years. That inside every person is the possibility of many worlds. I dont know how many cells we have, and how many compounds down to atoms and smaller. I a person could be trillions or more worlds depending on our survival. In a sense we are a god to those worlds but we basically try to see our self survive. A symbiotic god, we need them to be tied to the flesh lest we all perish. And they probably dont know we even exist.

Yeah, ever since silver surfer tried to get away from galactus i thought about it.

You're intuition sounds very similar to what Master Li Hongzhi had talked about in one of his Buddha Law Lectures:

“The human mind is complex. I’ve spoken with you before about how a person’s brain is merely a processing plant. A person is born from his mother’s womb, with his parents’ flesh and blood, and then grows by consuming earthly foods. And at death, whether he’s buried in the earth or cremated, he turns to dust.

The brain itself, strictly speaking, is not the origin of one’s thoughts. Don’t people have a soul? Doesn’t a person’s body also consist of a part that is at various microscopic layers and that isn’t in the surface dimension? All of those can generate thoughts. Some people have said that the human body is a miniature universe. Think about how many cells are contained in a person’s brain. And how many molecules make up those cells?

And how many even more minuscule particles make up those molecules? Each minuscule particle, as positioned in space, looks as does a celestial body to the human eye. Everyone looks outwardly. Every planet in this greater universe has life on it, only it’s not in this surface dimension and thus it’s invisible to you.

America’s space technology is said to be so advanced, yet when they land on other planets they see nothing there but a desolate world. But it is not desolate there; it’s just that man’s technology is too shallow. How many planets are there in this universe? The cells, molecules, and more minuscule particles in the human brain have the same arrangement as that of the universe that we see, and even the sequencing is the same. How many particles are there in your human body?

How many planets are there inside your brain? If the lives on those minuscule particles (that is, planets) were to look upon the particles spread throughout the space of the brain, would it be any different from how human beings look at planets or the universe?

If you are to look at it this way, doesn’t a person’s brain contain a large universe? And how many beings, how many gods, and how many still greater beings exist there in those dimensions? Given that all of those countless beings have their own minds, where exactly do humans’ thoughts come from? It’s extraordinarily complex...."
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01-05-2017, 03:08 AM
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Very similar to how many tribals believe (or believed). Commonly, we believe everything is alive or spirit. Even the particles on subatomic levels of rocks and water, and of course the stars, plants, flesh &blood have such. And they all vibrate or move. Maybe thats why sone believe song and movement are such an important language (even if no real words or apparant rythm).

It also reinds me yet again of dr. Emotos water crystal study.

If positivity and movement are such wonderous aspects of growth it makes you wonder why many at times fall into self destructive patterns. Do we yearn to decay and shed the flesh when we should try to embeace its gift?

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01-06-2017, 03:24 PM (This post was last modified: 01-06-2017 03:25 PM by EnergyGem.)
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(01-05-2017 03:08 AM)FarhnamDrunk Wrote:  Very similar to how many tribals believe (or believed). Commonly, we believe everything is alive or spirit. Even the particles on subatomic levels of rocks and water, and of course the stars, plants, flesh &blood have such. And they all vibrate or move. Maybe thats why sone believe song and movement are such an important language (even if no real words or apparant rythm).

It also reinds me yet again of dr. Emotos water crystal study.

If positivity and movement are such wonderous aspects of growth it makes you wonder why many at times fall into self destructive patterns. Do we yearn to decay and shed the flesh when we should try to embeace its gift?

Yes you're right and it's very similar to what the Hylozoists taught:

"Hylozoism is the philosophical point of view that matter is in some sense alive. The concept dates back at least as far as the Milesian school of pre-Socratic philosophers. The term was introduced to English by Ralph Cudworth in 1678."

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hylozoism

Dr Emoto's crystal study was fascinating and so was the work done by Cleve Backster on plant consciousness.

I think people fall into negative and self destructive patterns due to the dualistic nature of man. Although mankind has Buddha Nature he also has demon nature and it takes great discipline to constantly nourish one's Buddha nature and constantly negate and weaken one's demon nature until one is purified completely into Buddhahood. That is really what cultivation is about.
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01-14-2017, 03:28 AM
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I recently heard this quote:
Quote:To exist is to survive unfair choices.

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