Please, I exhort all of you, bring me up to the current year here ...

Diluculo_DelFuego said:

Not sure about the same with Hine.

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Hine did a lot of shamanism. More beginner stuff but yes.

Öwnchef said:

You are mixing up religion and magic. Religion is all about war, power and money. Magic is about subjectivity and selfentitlement.
While religion will lead to science, sooner or later, magic leads to arts.

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Save it bro i don’t need to be lectured

Mider2009 said:

Save it bro i don’t need to be lectured

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Behold I do not give lectures or a little charity. When I give I give myself.

Öwnchef said:

Behold I do not give lectures or a little charity. When I give I give myself.

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what you’re saying has no baring on what I was discussing

Roma said:

The dark gods are much lesser beings that operate for their own purposes and not for the benefit of The Source of All.

Do the dark gods have interest in humans except as a food source?

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By “The Source of All” are you referring to the singular origin of all life or something else?

I’d swap out the word “food” for “resource”. Acausal energy needs a causal medium through which to manifest, otherwise it remains beyond causal space-time and it cannot interact with three-dimensional space.

From a biological perspective, it would make sense to be the “food” of an apex entity just like other animals are food for us; if anything it would affirm a universal purpose for Homo sapiens.

In my view, before Existence periodically occurs there is Beingness. The source of Beingness can be called The Source of All. It seems that TSoA wishes to experience and for that purpose generates Existence - until it had enough and then Existence ceases in the Mahapralaya

Since Beingness stands under all Existence it is possible to have some experiential exposure to the above schema

LostYeoman said:

By “The Source of All” are you referring to the singular origin of all life or something else?

I’d swap out the word “food” for “resource”. Acausal energy needs a causal medium through which to manifest, otherwise it remains beyond causal space-time and it cannot interact with three-dimensional space.

From a biological perspective, it would make sense to be the “food” of an apex entity just like other animals are food for us; if anything it would affirm a universal purpose for Homo sapiens.

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This is interesting, as the original purpose of this post was to try to make sene of O9A documents, particularly NAOS: A Practical Guide to Modern Magick. Not saying I want to run right out and join the O9A unless they asked me, but to use and learn their material for higher purposes of the side of Daylight.

KjEno186 said:

@Jk666 I wonder if this might be of interest:

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I just finished reading Jason Miller's book on Consorting with Spirits. He doesn't care about left/right dichotomy so much as recognizing that the spirits are all around us, including us humans. And like humans, spirits are "good" and "bad" and sometimes both depending on the situation. And it's all as messy and complex as anything in our 'reality.'

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Please don't waste your money on this course, if anyone wants it I can send it to them for free.

bgshawn499 said:

Please don't waste your money on this course, if anyone wants it I can send it to them for free.

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I posted that comment over eleven months ago, and the "Black School" has since been decrypted and made available on the forum. Is it a waste of money? Perhaps, for many it probably is. There is knowledge, and then there is experience. The Black School course contents provide knowledge. Acting on the contents brings experience, and perhaps some will benefit greatly by signing up for the course and working with Jason Miller. Those who have the money to pay and are ready to work might find out that it is just what they needed. I'm not taking the course, but if the circumstances were right? That's a question for divination, but it's a road I don't expect to cross this year.

Mider2009 said:

Well i ask as you also asked how to remove parasites

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The trick, or one trick to get rid of parasites is actually a combination:
A clean and pure mind.
Not driven by emotions particularly anger and fear.
A clean dwelling.
The ability to meditate and visualize.
Visualizing blue light with vertical white beams of light energy at each chakra and body part. Golden light can do the same per Kraig.
And whether or not I have a teacher ... Well, life goes on. Plus I'm stubborn.