Do you think Trump is a practitioner ?

supremecoyote · 2025-11-02T02:34:51+0000

I have my thoughts.... something to do with Epstein on the Island and potentially a pact with Moloch. It would make more sense for him to have a pact with SOMETHING rather than just pure luck to go from 34 time felon to King. I've heard musings of Hitler dabbling in black magick as well. So idk , I don't think i'm far off. I'll do some divination and post my results in the chat.

Kepler · 2025-11-02T02:54:15+0000

That thread in the controversy section got me contemplating them as reincarnated Atlanteans. Still carrying the momentum and cohesion of their souls from the past along with their interpersonal relationships and aspirations. It makes some immediate sense in my worldview and experience. Still needs investigation.
Please, keep the thread updated with your divinations too.

FireBorn · 2025-11-02T02:57:06+0000

I don’t personally think Trump is a practitioner, but I do think there's truth in the idea that high-level individuals, including politicians, often have occult advisors or "consultants" working on their behalf. The influence of money and power can create the illusion of magick in action, but in reality, it’s the power dynamics, connections, and resources at their disposal that drive outcomes. Money can open doors, buy influence, and create opportunities that might appear like magic, but it’s more about leveraging systems than performing rituals.

As for the whole Moloch narrative, I think it's overblown. While there are certainly strange, secretive rituals or ceremonies that happen in elite circles, the idea that there’s a tightly organized global cabal all working together with one unified occult agenda just doesn’t hold up. Humans are too chaotic and self-interested for it to work that well.

If there is some dark occult influence at play in the political or elite world, it’s more likely subtle, behind the scenes maneuvering, not a full-on ritualistic conspiracy. If Trump were involved in magick, it’d likely be symbolic power and influence, with a lot of things that the public would never see. But I believe most of the power structures at that level rely on real-world influence, money, politics, ans media rather than traditional occult stuff.

If the level of magick practiced by the ultra-wealthy and powerful were truly as potent as some claim, we’d be seeing much more transparent results from it. In the end, the most potent magick is the ability to manipulate systems and structures, not necessarily rituals and pacts with deities. That’s what makes the world run.

Just my take on it. YMMV

supremecoyote · 2025-11-02T03:50:53+0000

FireBorn said:
I don’t personally think Trump is a practitioner, but I do think there's truth in the idea that high-level individuals, including politicians, often have occult advisors or "consultants" working on their behalf. The influence of money and power can create the illusion of magick in action, but in reality, it’s the power dynamics, connections, and resources at their disposal that drive outcomes. Money can open doors, buy influence, and create opportunities that might appear like magic, but it’s more about leveraging systems than performing rituals.

As for the whole Moloch narrative, I think it's overblown. While there are certainly strange, secretive rituals or ceremonies that happen in elite circles, the idea that there’s a tightly organized global cabal all working together with one unified occult agenda just doesn’t hold up. Humans are too chaotic and self-interested for it to work that well.

If there is some dark occult influence at play in the political or elite world, it’s more likely subtle, behind the scenes maneuvering, not a full-on ritualistic conspiracy. If Trump were involved in magick, it’d likely be symbolic power and influence, with a lot of things that the public would never see. But I believe most of the power structures at that level rely on real-world influence, money, politics, ans media rather than traditional occult stuff.

If the level of magick practiced by the ultra-wealthy and powerful were truly as potent as some claim, we’d be seeing much more transparent results from it. In the end, the most potent magick is the ability to manipulate systems and structures, not necessarily rituals and pacts with deities. That’s what makes the world run.

Just my take on it. YMMV

fair ! Idk i was just thinking on what could possibly be turning a 34 count felon and notorious con artist into a king, which is quite the leap. And also having a bunch of cultists who froth at the mouth for him disregarding any horrendous actions he may inflict on others. I don't know if Trump would be a practitioner vs maybe dabbling in something on that island and intentionally/ unintentionally making a pact. The possible and maybe most likely reality of there being No magick involved is scarier than there being magic involved.

FireBorn · 2025-11-02T05:08:42+0000

supremecoyote said:
fair ! Idk i was just thinking on what could possibly be turning a 34 count felon and notorious con artist into a king, which is quite the leap. And also having a bunch of cultists who froth at the mouth for him disregarding any horrendous actions he may inflict on others. I don't know if Trump would be a practitioner vs maybe dabbling in something on that island and intentionally/ unintentionally making a pact. The possible and maybe most likely reality of there being No magick involved is scarier than there being magic involved.

No doubt there are sociopathic tendencies and megalomania aspects at play. You dont get that powerful by being a good person. Money doesn't make one bad, it just amplifies the shit qualities as person already has. The shadows get well funded playgrounds, and actual fixers to help clean up the mess. Gaslight the public when the accusations come. Sadly, nothing new in that game.

I loved your statement 'Possibly and maybe most likely reality of there being no magick involved is scarier than there being magick involved'. Well fucking stated!!

Moongarm71 · 2025-11-02T05:17:07+0000

supremecoyote said:
fair ! Idk i was just thinking on what could possibly be turning a 34 count felon and notorious con artist into a king, which is quite the leap. And also having a bunch of cultists who froth at the mouth for him disregarding any horrendous actions he may inflict on others. I don't know if Trump would be a practitioner vs maybe dabbling in something on that island and intentionally/ unintentionally making a pact. The possible and maybe most likely reality of there being No magick involved is scarier than there being magic involved.

Bill Clinton was on the island as well, I wonder how Hillary could have lost?

supremecoyote · 2025-11-02T06:32:13+0000

Moongarm71 said:
Bill Clinton was on the island as well, I wonder how Hillary could have lost?

well based off my logic, hillary would of had to make a pact on that island to get any sweet low vibrational kickbacks. According to Alex Jones she has and that guy is never wrong about anything so who knows lol.

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FireBorn said:
No doubt there are sociopathic tendencies and megalomania aspects at play. You dont get that powerful by being a good person. Money doesn't make one bad, it just amplifies the shit qualities as person already has. The shadows get well funded playgrounds, and actual fixers to help clean up the mess. Gaslight the public when the accusations come. Sadly, nothing new in that game.

I loved your statement 'Possibly and maybe most likely reality of there being no magick involved is scarier than there being magick involved'. Well fucking stated!!

The other side of the coin is the possibility of Trump being a closeted yet heavily gifted warlock and the imagery alone is taking me out ngl.

Amadeus · 2025-11-02T08:20:24+0000

FireBorn said:
I don’t personally think Trump is a practitioner, but I do think there's truth in the idea that high-level individuals, including politicians, often have occult advisors or "consultants" working on their behalf.

I think so too, high level people people definitely have advisors and occultists working for them. I don't know about Trump but in case of Putin I've read that he has a bunch of monks and occultists trying to help him.
I don't think Trump himself is a practitioner though but some people close to him probably are.

supremecoyote said:
The other side of the coin is the possibility of Trump being a closeted yet heavily gifted warlock and the imagery alone is taking me out ngl.

Yes

imagine, goat statues, strange scenery, bizarre symbols drawn on the floor, Mr Warlock doing yet another powerful ritual, something out of a Hollywood movie.

supremecoyote · 2025-11-02T08:56:54+0000

Amadeus said:
I think so too, high level people people definitely have advisors and occultists working for them. I don't know about Trump but in case of Putin I've read that he has a bunch of monks and occultists trying to help him.
I don't think Trump himself is a practitioner though but some people close to him probably are.

Yes imagine, goat statues, strange scenery, bizarre symbols drawn on the floor, Mr Warlock doing yet another powerful ritual, something out of a Hollywood movie.

Let me tell you folks, King Solomon—tremendous guy. Very wise, everyone says it. People tell me all the time, ‘Sir, you’re just like Solomon!’ And you know what? They’re right. Maybe even wiser, maybe richer, maybe more golden. Solomon had a temple? I’ve got towers. Multiple. With my name in very classy gold letters. The demons love that. They see my name, they say, ‘Wow, this guy—he means business.’

Now, when I summon spirits, I don’t use these old dusty seals—too boring! I’ve got Trump Seals, very exclusive, hand-embossed. Made in America. The demons line up for deals with me—Lucifer, Beelzebub, the whole gang—because I make the best pacts. No inflation, no loopholes, tremendous returns. I look them right in the eye and say, ‘You work for me now, okay? We’re gonna make Hell great again.’

King Solomon had 72 demons. I have 74—two extra, from the Apprentice. Fired a few too. You gotta keep ‘em in line! One demon tried to unionize the others, total disaster. I banished him personally, folks. Nobody banishes better than me.

And the angels—oh, they love me. Archangel Michael came to me once, said, ‘Sir, no one has ever consecrated an altar this classy.’ It’s true. I’ve got frankincense imported from the Holy Land, top-tier myrrh, and a candelabra shaped like my hair.

So when you see me with my wand—and it’s a beautiful wand, folks, made of marble from Trump Tower—you’ll know: we’re not just talking about magick. We’re talking about the greatest Solomonic operation the world has ever seen. And when I build my Third Temple—believe me—it’s gonna be yuge. Gold floors, crystal ceilings, angels working security. The demons? They’ll pay for it!”

MorganBlack · 2025-11-02T17:57:57+0000

Just a quick FYI:
G.D. dude and archdruid John Michael Greer has talked about the role of 4-Chan chaos magic 'Memetics' as playing a part in Trump's presidential campaign. Use media to move our collective dream mind enough so it rewrites reality. And they are still at it too, from what I've seen.

The King in Orange: The Magical and Occult Roots of Political Power (2021)

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