I am doing a mini-experiment where I compare the accounts people receive from Astaroth when they ask him about The Fall. But, the trick is to evoke Astaroth using the grimoire methods as to prevent any, shall we say, "Satanic" responses? On the internet I've only stumbled upon 2 accounts (1 from TGK, and another from the imperialarts blog). I'll need 2-4 more accounts before drawing a conclusion which I would like to share with you all. I think this will prove to be a very fruitful endeavor, even if at the moment this experiment seems rather minor and pointless. <br /><br />Here's what you need to do. Simply evoke Astaroth and ask him about The Fall. Then share it here. It does not matter which grimoire use it: be it Crossed Keys, Lemegeton, Grimorium Verum, etc. Doesn't matter, so long as you perform the operation as close to the book as you can.<br /><br />What do you say?<br /><br />PS. We can add a control group: a few magicians that call Astaroth using their own methods, asking about the Fall. And then we compare answers?
Also, spare me the smartass replies such as "BUT THERE IS NO FALL!" The point of this thread is to see if people will receive the same story from Astaroth or will it differ depending on the method (modern vs grimoire).
I love experiments like that, and it just so happens I'm currently on vacation. I may try this weekend. Despite years of study, I'm rarely successful evoking a specific entity, but we'll see what happens.
I'm sort of skeptical about anyone who says they can correctly evoke the entity they intended every time with no failures. Seems hokey, because it's not that easy, especially in our current age of constant distractions.
Please reread the OP post. This is designed to be an experiment at validating responses from an Entity through 2 different controll groups not a philosophical debate on JudeoChristian Dogma. That being said OP I would be good for the non traditional methods. I am curious to see the results collated and compared if you still got room.