A Capaitalist model and means to restore a fair and stable economy.

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

First of all, everyone works. If need be, we could adopt the homeless, house, feed and clothe them for picking up litter. Same with inmates but obviously not paired with each other, kept completely separate.

Second, We have a reliable minimum wage, calculated to be the current highest county living wage in the country. This is set for
Government Payscale grade GS0/1.

Third, whatever skills by assessment test you rank high in is your new profession, learn as you go.

Fourth, to level up, everything is as normal, take college courses, obtain and hone new skills to move up.

Finally, this is not permanent, this is used to restore the economy in case of impending collapse.

Jobs are classified according to the OPM standards and classification system of job types.
Government Payscales are as the current rate per GS grade, adjusted for the new minimum wage, which means you get a significant paycheck.

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First of all, everyone works. If need be, we could adopt the homeless, house, feed and clothe them for picking up litter. Same with inmates but obviously not paired with each other, kept completely separate.

Second, We have a reliable minimum wage, calculated to be the current highest county living wage in the country. This is set for
Government Payscale grade GS0/1.

Third, whatever skills by assessment test you rank high in is your new profession, learn as you go.

Fourth, to level up, everything is as normal, take college courses, obtain and hone new skills to move up.

Finally, this is not permanent, this is used to restore the economy in case of impending collapse.

Jobs are classified according to the OPM standards and classification system of job types.
Government Payscales are as the current rate per GS grade, adjusted for the new minimum wage, which means you get a significant paycheck.

Another thing -- prices should be frozen before hiring and after the living county wage is set for the new minimum wage.

 

[killing raven sun]

nature is the only fair and stable economy

the rule of man is always biased toward leadership, once a man has power he will abuse it, he will lock up the worlds resources and decide who starves, the best business people are psychopaths, true story

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

Forgive me for saying so, but even if Nature is the answer, it does not solve the problem. What I propose may seem ciommunism or socialism to others but it is not. Life goes on as it does, we are only restructuring what people are paid for their knowledge and ability, not to worship an Emperor like Communists or redistribute all wealth per the idea popularly of Socialism (which is not truth). Capitalism will still exist, there is simple a more fair playing field by the proposal. Private wealth/income channels would not change.

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Nature does produce many wonderful fruits, vegetables, nuts, and other things, but aside from those plants used to make drugs, many holistic solutions. Hydroelectric and solar power. Homes made from trees. Yes, I can see Nature as a commodity but psychopaths have already done so, exploiting that system as well, for example rainforest tree harvesting, bringing diseases into indigenous tribe areas.

 

[killing raven sun]

Forgive me for saying so, but even if Nature is the answer, it does not solve the problem.

lol, this opening statement is quite a turd, and the rest of your comment was very poorly thought out, if at all, and reads more like uninformed regurgitation, like you dont know fuck all about economics

nature is the only economic system on this planet, without it we all die, mankind does nothing to encourage natural harmony and instead lives wildly out of control wasting resources on a few while the many suffer abjectly, this is the truth of the world

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

I fail to see where you disagree. I don't see how singing kumbyah in the wilderness will restructure a stronger economy within a capitalist model. I don't see where your reply is how exactly nature will solve modern problems.

 

[killing raven sun]

wow, zoom, right over your head

capitalism works exactly how it is supposed to, it concentrates wealth in the hands of a few at the expense of the rest, it is meant to be unfair, you cant be rich without poor slobs to lord it over

you cannot fix capitalism because it isnt broken

 

[byte007]

Actually all forms of systems we have used concentrate the wealth in the hands of the few at the top. Capitalism just allows for more people to live better than the other systems. Since the Federal Reserve took over the money it was on a fast track for destruction and they planned this way for their Reset. They used the Fed to get all the wealth and control since its inception to speed up the track to ultimate power. Then they give the world China's system with more restrictions on options. That is why the Resource based system so far makes the most sense to me and it makes it so corruption is not possible.

 

[Vandheer]

nature is the only fair and stable economy

Thats why we had six mass extinctions with rapid succession considerin Earths age, huh?

 

[Robert Ramsay]

nature is the only fair and stable economy

I was always under the impression that Man was supposed to try and rise above the blind forces of evolution etc. Otherwise he might as well just plant himself in the corner and turn himself towards the light occasionally.

 

[Vandheer]

I was always under the impression that Man was supposed to try and rise above the blind forces of evolution etc. Otherwise he might as well just plant himself in the corner and turn himself towards the light occasionally.

Well said. Considering the planets age, we became spacefaring in a blink of an eye. We should care for, but not chained by it.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

wow, zoom, right over your head

capitalism works exactly how it is supposed to, it concentrates wealth in the hands of a few at the expense of the rest, it is meant to be unfair, you cant be rich without poor slobs to lord it over

you cannot fix capitalism because it isnt broken

How is it not broken?

 

[league]

How is it not broken?

I agree with you. How is it not broken?

 

[whatever0935]

I apologize, but I come from a socialist economic system, and I find it challenging. Comparatively, people in your country tend to have a higher standard of living. In my country, the hourly wage is typically only 1 to 5 dollars.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

That's nice actually, given I'm disabled and homeless.
Yet I have next to no help from the government except for medical testing and food stamps.
So yes, perhaps I have it better than others.

 

[whatever0935]

That's nice actually, given I'm disabled and homeless.
Yet I have next to no help from the government except for medical testing and food stamps.
So yes, perhaps I have it better than others.

At least in your country, there are community programs to assist the poor and food stamps available. This allows individuals to invest time in studying and improving their social status. In my country, if you are born into a poor family, it is extremely challenging. We have to study the English language and work for food leaving us with little time to invest in ourselves. The conditions for the poor in the US or EU are still better compared to those in third-world countries.

 

[Xenophon]

I apologize, but I come from a socialist economic system, and I find it challenging. Comparatively, people in your country tend to have a higher standard of living. In my country, the hourly wage is typically only 1 to 5 dollars.

The number 1-5 $ is meaningless unless you tell us the price of rent and food. In the country I live, I never earned more as a teacher than about $2000 USD a month. That's about one-quarter of what a teacher in California makes. Yet pre-COVID my wife and I could travel to Europe yearly. How? Everything is (by COMPARISON) cheaper here.

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Look around the corner, gang. With AI coming along, the vast majority of us will become redundant in the near future. UBI will save us? Actually, it won't be long before the technocrats take to culling the vast many who lack the resources to consume what machines produce. The good news is less pressure on the environment. The bad news is that qualities like docility and tractability will probably figure high on any checklist of who gets to live. Meh New World call it. Olympus with Bill Gates as Zeus hisself, Mark Zuckerberg as a puckish Hermes, Zelensky as Ares, etc. etc. The horror, the horror...

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I apologize, but I come from a socialist economic system, and I find it challenging. Comparatively, people in your country tend to have a higher standard of living. In my country, the hourly wage is typically only 1 to 5 dollars.

Which country, if I may ask?

 

[whatever0935]

The number 1-5 $ is meaningless unless you tell us the price of rent and food. In the country I live, I never earned more as a teacher than about $2000 USD a month. That's about one-quarter of what a teacher in California makes. Yet pre-COVID my wife and I could travel to Europe yearly. How? Everything is (by COMPARISON) cheaper here.

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Look around the corner, gang. With AI coming along, the vast majority of us will become redundant in the near future. UBI will save us? Actually, it won't be long before the technocrats take to culling the vast many who lack the resources to consume what machines produce. The good news is less pressure on the environment. The bad news is that qualities like docility and tractability will probably figure high on any checklist of who gets to live. Meh New World call it. Olympus with Bill Gates as Zeus hisself, Mark Zuckerberg as a puckish Hermes, Zelensky as Ares, etc. etc. The horror, the horror...

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Which country, if I may ask?

VIETNAM

 

[Xenophon]

VIETNAM

Thanks. If someone is working for, say, 50,000 dong/hr in a city like Hue, how much rent could he expect to pay? food? I'm trying to get a handle on living expenses.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

I still would say:
1 Freeze the Consumer Price Index and Cost of Living per county.
2 Test each individual for career placement aptitude.
3 Hire people into jobs based on their aptitude, with pay equivalent to the GS pay schedule for current year.
4 Adjust the Living County Wage and Federal Minimum Wage.
5 Unfreeze the CPI and CoL.

If we did this we would have an economic surplus.

 

[Xenophon]

I still would say:
1 Freeze the Consumer Price Index and Cost of Living per county.
2 Test each individual for career placement aptitude.
3 Hire people into jobs based on their aptitude, with pay equivalent to the GS pay schedule for current year.
4 Adjust the Living County Wage and Federal Minimum Wage.
5 Unfreeze the CPI and CoL.

If we did this we would have an economic surplus.

International finance would not permit a freeze. (Hey, Woodrow Wilson complained he'd never have hired on as president had he known Jakob Schiff would be calling the shots.) Aptitude based hiring is "racist"---several generations of voter have been thusly indoctrinated in state-run schools.