Trying to deflect from what is being discussed in that BBC article by bringing up something irrelevant (there are quite strict rules about that on this forum) is poor taste in the extreme.However much Nazis and Zionists both attempt to say Zionism = Jewishness, it ain’t. Some of the most vociferous anti-Zionists are Jews, including German Jews who get arrested for “anti-semitism.” Meanwhile Zionists and Nazis seem to be quite cozy on the ground
Trying to deflect from what is being discussed in that BBC article by bringing up something irrelevant (there are quite strict rules about that on this forum) is poor taste in the extreme.
Weiss, the settler in the article, is manifestly guided by Jewish exceptionalism. The settlers' Jewishness is central to what they're doing.
I'm glad we agree that you were trying to deflect.Oh indeed? Guess I’ll have to live with your distaste.
No. Ethnic groups are entitled to their historic homelands. The Palestinians are the historic inhabitants of Palestine. The Israelis are an invading force, largely of "Soviet" ancestry. This has nothing to do with ethnic ties to land and you're, again, attempting to deflect.Yep, thats how ethno-nationalism works everywhere. I’m surprised you don’t understand that.
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No. Ethnic groups are entitled to their historic homelands. The Palestinians are the historic inhabitants of Palestine.
The Israelis are an invading force, largely of "Soviet" ancestry.
Is this for real?
So far it seems that any kind of "exceptionalism" is only a bad thing to have.manifestly guided by Jewish exceptionalism
This will sound insensitive and I apologize in advance, but honestly I don't think that religious books can be taken as veritable records of actual history.the history in the torah, the bible and the qoran tells us
Which folks? What game? I'm extreme right and I say straight up I can't abide any of 'em.What the Zionists are doing is evil because it is mass murder and ethnic cleansing, the “historic claims” to the extremely well trodden piece of land it’s happening on is irrelevant.
This is such a cute game you folks play: “we hate these fake Jewish khazars or whatever”. “ok so you’re okay with ‘real’ Jews?” “”Oh no we hate them too.”
All places aren't the same. Why is this so hard to understand? (Walter Scott wunnit? "Breathes there a man with soul so dead/ Who never to himself has said/ This is mine own, my native land...")"These are my rocks and I will make you bleed for it"
This old story makes me so, so sad. You can go anywhere on this earth and feel the wind blow through your hair. Why is this so hard to understand?
Ah, I understand now.not the point if its real history, people live from that point of view.
I increasingly doubt that history books can be taken as records of actual history.Is this for real?
So far it seems that any kind of "exceptionalism" is only a bad thing to have.
Maybe it is my "mixed heritage" speaking, but why people think that they are so exceptional that they are(or should be allowed to be) outside the norm and thus allowed to do anything they want?
I mean, unless one of them can actually have superpowers or be more than just human, they aren't really exceptional, are they?
Feels more like the excuse used by royal of old, that their "blue blood" or their "divinity" made them exceptional and that gave them permission to be awful humans because they "weren't like the rest that is below".
What an awful way to see people.
This will sound insensitive and I apologize in advance, but honestly I don't think that religious books can be taken as veritable records of actual history.
Unfortunately, yes. It was first talked about back in December. Israeli . Yet, in the past week, both the BBC and CNN have released interviews showing that there is in fact an organised effort to build over the recently bombed homes of Gaza's Palestinians. Palestinians who, if they're not already dead, are refugees in the south of Gaza waiting to be bombed.Is this for real?
I think it's simply part of human nature for many to see one's own group as, at least, set apart. I cannot think of any nationality or ethnic group that doesn't have that to some extent. It's a question of what is done with it. If it's turned inwards and used as a spur to excel then it can lead to really positive things ("we cannot have an ugly building in this town square - we are French!", "We're Greek - we were supporting gay marriage before there even was a church").So far it seems that any kind of "exceptionalism" is only a bad thing to have.
Maybe it is my "mixed heritage" speaking, but why people think that they are so exceptional that they are(or should be allowed to be) outside the norm and thus allowed to do anything they want?
Unfortunately, yes. It was first talked about back in December. Israeli . Yet, in the past week, both the BBC and CNN have released interviews showing that there is in fact an organised effort to build over the recently bombed homes of Gaza's Palestinians. Palestinians who, if they're not already dead, are refugees in the south of Gaza waiting to be bombed.
If it's turned inwards and used as a spur to excel then it can lead to really positive things ("we cannot have an ugly building in this town square - we are French!", "We're Greek - we were supporting gay marriage before there even was a church").
At the present moment there are two, very well funded, expressions of exceptionalism that derive energy not from pursuing excellence but from causing suffering to others.
One is Russian, the other is Jewish and . Unfortunately, much is being enabled because American evangelicals have bought into the "Chosen People" narrative despite
Classic humanity, why seek to upgrade themselves when it's easier to downgrade others?At the present moment there are two, very well funded, expressions of exceptionalism that derive energy not from pursuing excellence but from causing suffering to others.
Religion at the root of it all, honestly I am not even surprised.Unfortunately, much is being enabled because American evangelicals have bought into the "Chosen People" narrative despite