A black hole entity?

[Morell]

This was really weird encounter so I want to ask if anyone happened to stumble upon this weirdo entity. It was astral one presumably. I was dreaming when I "fake" woke up to see it by my bed, very close to me. It was mass of blackness in basic human shape, but well defined. It was black and felt extremely empty, like a vacuum or black hole that was pulling stuff in. It definitely was pulling in my breath and I was struggling to breathe. I tried to say "say your name," but sound was sucked with the breath. At first moment I was neutral to it, because I didn't know but since it kept giving me such problems breathing and said nothing, I started fighting back, I started pushing it away with one hand, I moved it a little. It was possible to touch it. Then I managed to really move, lifted my other hand and grabbed it's neck... or I was aiming for that. I woke up and my hand, my physical hand, actually grabbed nothing but air.

It must had go away, the surrounding around me felt like the brightness started to go up and density of energy was going up as well for few moments.

Weird is that I felt nothing from the being myself, no emotions. Seems like I remained calm all the time...

But what the f was that? I would not call it a vampire, it seemed rather like black hole than bloodsucker...

 

[FraterFraxinus]

DEMENTOR DEMENTOR!
I encountered something similiar a few times actually. It reminded me of the man with the black hat, but the feeling was kinda the same.
I just assumed it to be a typical sleep paralysis entity and didnt think much of it, i just laugh at it and its gone.

 

[Keldan]

This was really weird encounter so I want to ask if anyone happened to stumble upon this weirdo entity. It was astral one presumably. I was dreaming when I "fake" woke up to see it by my bed, very close to me. It was mass of blackness in basic human shape, but well defined. It was black and felt extremely empty, like a vacuum or black hole that was pulling stuff in. It definitely was pulling in my breath and I was struggling to breathe. I tried to say "say your name," but sound was sucked with the breath. At first moment I was neutral to it, because I didn't know but since it kept giving me such problems breathing and said nothing, I started fighting back, I started pushing it away with one hand, I moved it a little. It was possible to touch it. Then I managed to really move, lifted my other hand and grabbed it's neck... or I was aiming for that. I woke up and my hand, my physical hand, actually grabbed nothing but air.

It must had go away, the surrounding around me felt like the brightness started to go up and density of energy was going up as well for few moments.

Weird is that I felt nothing from the being myself, no emotions. Seems like I remained calm all the time...

But what the f was that? I would not call it a vampire, it seemed rather like black hole than bloodsucker...

This could be almost any entity. A lot of very darker entities present as a mass of blackness. They’re not trying to drain you, what you’re feeling is just the weight of their current when you’re in close proximity.

If you have any skill in energy manipulation, you can regulate your own current around them. When you do that, the out of breath sensation will be gone because your system is no longer reacting to their current.

 

[Morell]

This could be almost any entity. A lot of very darker entities present as a mass of blackness. They’re not trying to drain you, what you’re feeling is just the weight of their current when you’re in close proximity.

If you have any skill in energy manipulation, you can regulate your own current around them. When you do that, the out of breath sensation will be gone because your system is no longer reacting to their current.

Agreed, draining would have been different. This actually makes sense.

 

[Durward]

This was really weird encounter so I want to ask if anyone happened to stumble upon this weirdo entity. It was astral one presumably. I was dreaming when I "fake" woke up to see it by my bed, very close to me. It was mass of blackness in basic human shape, but well defined. It was black and felt extremely empty, like a vacuum or black hole that was pulling stuff in. It definitely was pulling in my breath and I was struggling to breathe. I tried to say "say your name," but sound was sucked with the breath. At first moment I was neutral to it, because I didn't know but since it kept giving me such problems breathing and said nothing, I started fighting back, I started pushing it away with one hand, I moved it a little. It was possible to touch it. Then I managed to really move, lifted my other hand and grabbed it's neck... or I was aiming for that. I woke up and my hand, my physical hand, actually grabbed nothing but air.

It must had go away, the surrounding around me felt like the brightness started to go up and density of energy was going up as well for few moments.

Weird is that I felt nothing from the being myself, no emotions. Seems like I remained calm all the time...

But what the f was that? I would not call it a vampire, it seemed rather like black hole than bloodsucker...

Even the very talented Graham Nichols appears as a black outline to people when projecting.
So, it does come down to an aspect of yourself, an entity of some kind, another living person projecting, a dream, etc.
My bet would be an aspect of yourself that you became aware of, sharing your breath/energy. I tell people all the time that there are quite a few of these aspects of self, and that they have their own memories, interests, skills, and more. Aligning with them can be difficult. The very talented and dear departed Sean Harribance kept his on call like an angel. He would look up and to the left to 'call it down' to answer questions about anyone he was presented a photo of, and it was quite accurate in the detailed facts about them and their lives.
If I took anything from the description, it is communicating something important about your breathing. So if you are practicing something new or different that requires breathing exercises, or the energy version of breath, it may want more of that, or for you to keep going because you are feeding it, etc.
If you are practicing something with breathing, please share.

 

[Morell]

If you are practicing something with breathing, please share.

Nothing specialized, honestly.
When I meditate I focus on breath as a point of focus to get into altered states. (my focus sucks) Beyond that I only get into breathing with doing squads, I start to need to breathe more at number 50 approx., because it is a cardio, but that's a side effect. I made a pause for 4 days now because we got new dose of wood for the winter ordered and I had to store it. (4 hours of physical work) In few days I'll be back on exercising. did 10 today and will work up again.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

Even the very talented Graham Nichols appears as a black outline to people when projecting.
So, it does come down to an aspect of yourself, an entity of some kind, another living person projecting, a dream, etc.
My bet would be an aspect of yourself that you became aware of, sharing your breath/energy. I tell people all the time that there are quite a few of these aspects of self, and that they have their own memories, interests, skills, and more. Aligning with them can be difficult. The very talented and dear departed Sean Harribance kept his on call like an angel. He would look up and to the left to 'call it down' to answer questions about anyone he was presented a photo of, and it was quite accurate in the detailed facts about them and their lives.
If I took anything from the description, it is communicating something important about your breathing. So if you are practicing something new or different that requires breathing exercises, or the energy version of breath, it may want more of that, or for you to keep going because you are feeding it, etc.
If you are practicing something with breathing, please share.

Interesting. I thought projected people would look more like cylindrical pillars of light.
I only think that because i've seen/felt that a couple of times and was/am convinced that those were spicific persons I know checking in on me.
I might be completetly wrong with that though, is there another phenoma described by what I've seen/felt?

 

[Morell]

Interesting. I thought projected people would look more like cylindrical pillars of light.
I only think that because i've seen/felt that a couple of times and was/am convinced that those were spicific persons I know checking in on me.
I might be completetly wrong with that though, is there another phenoma described by what I've seen/felt?

Spirits are never-ending source of new stuff. I never saw the spirit of cat that walked over my back while I was in bed. I just heard mewing and felt paws as it walked over me. Wonder how it would look like.

 

[Durward]

Interesting. I thought projected people would look more like cylindrical pillars of light.
I only think that because i've seen/felt that a couple of times and was/am convinced that those were spicific persons I know checking in on me.
I might be completetly wrong with that though, is there another phenoma described by what I've seen/felt?

In the literature, the beams, rods, or columns of light, so these cylinders or pillars, are the dead, or guides, or angels. They are mostly referred to as angels, which would make those entities that were never humans. Both good and bad versions are still angels. Some people achieve the cylindrical pillar of light at death, but in the literature, that would mean they have achieved a higher level of energy or power. So earned some wings I guess. If you know living people that appear in that form and check in on you, I would listen to whatever advice and follow whatever practices they are suggesting.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

In the literature, the beams, rods, or columns of light, so these cylinders or pillars, are the dead, or guides, or angels. They are mostly referred to as angels, which would make those entities that were never humans. Both good and bad versions are still angels. Some people achieve the cylindrical pillar of light at death, but in the literature, that would mean they have achieved a higher level of energy or power. So earned some wings I guess. If you know living people that appear in that form and check in on you, I would listen to whatever advice and follow whatever practices they are suggesting.

Damn that hits deep right now. I wasnt aware that this form might be something special (well more special than stuff like this is anyway) but it also doesnt really surprise me.

 

[Keldan]

is there another phenoma described by what I've seen/felt?

This is typically what happens when an entity is checking you out. They appear the way you and Morell described. They present themselves like this to avoid revealing their true identity. Most people only perceive a vague mass of darkness, a source of light, but a more experienced practitioner will be able to engage with the presence and identify them.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

This is typically what happens when an entity is checking you out. They appear the way you and Morell described. They present themselves like this to avoid revealing their true identity. Most people only perceive a vague mass of darkness, a source of light, but a more experienced practitioner will be able to engage with the presence and identify them.

In my case with the lightpillar though I'm 99.9% certain it wasnt an entity but someone i know.

 

[Keldan]

In my case with the lightpillar though I'm 99.9% certain it wasnt an entity but someone i know.

Based on my own experience, of entities present as masses of darkness or when they show up as sources/pillars of light or various other forms, they have all been identified here. I don’t let a presence linger without identifying who it is and why they’re in my space. For that reason, I doubt this was someone you know. On top of that, the person you’re thinking of didn’t practice then and still doesn’t now, so they wouldn’t be able to show up to you in that way.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

Based on my own experience, of entities present as masses of darkness or when they show up as sources/pillars of light or various other forms, they have all been identified here. I don’t let a presence linger without identifying who it is and why they’re in my space. For that reason, I doubt this was someone you know. On top of that, the person you’re thinking of didn’t practice then and still doesn’t now, so they wouldn’t be able to show up to you in that way.

Actually "it" vanished as soon as i noticed, I just felt the presence of this particular person before i "looked".
And why do you think this person wasnt/isnt practicing(practicing what anyway? remote viewing? magic in general? a handstand?)? How would you know too?

 

[Durward]

This is typically what happens when an entity is checking you out. They appear the way you and Morell described. They present themselves like this to avoid revealing their true identity. Most people only perceive a vague mass of darkness, a source of light, but a more experienced practitioner will be able to engage with the presence and identify them.

This is a great point. In one account, I was in the living room in broad daylight, and one person saw nothing (no in-sight), another saw bugs crawling (filtered through the mind), and I saw a blue electric cloud with sparks swirling (who knows what perception that is). All at the same time. So your own abilities, and filters, and beliefs, and fears, and other things, can all feed into energetic clarity, or lack of it. This same entity would take on all sorts of different formats, some of them just depended on the emotional energy available at the time.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

This is a great point. In one account, I was in the living room in broad daylight, and one person saw nothing (no in-sight), another saw bugs crawling (filtered through the mind), and I saw a blue electric cloud with sparks swirling (who knows what perception that is). All at the same time. So your own abilities, and filters, and beliefs, and fears, and other things, can all feed into energetic clarity, or lack of it. This same entity would take on all sorts of different formats, some of them just depended on the emotional energy available at the time.

Interesting insight. Instantly clicks with me. Never conciously thought about that but makes sense/feels right/true.
This also answeres a question i had for such a long time i even forgot i had it! I feel a bit pathetic that i didnt realize before.

 

[Durward]

Based on my own experience, of entities present as masses of darkness or when they show up as sources/pillars of light or various other forms, they have all been identified here. I don’t let a presence linger without identifying who it is and why they’re in my space. For that reason, I doubt this was someone you know. On top of that, the person you’re thinking of didn’t practice then and still doesn’t now, so they wouldn’t be able to show up to you in that way.

I have mentioned alters, and the agendas and activities they have, and I'm of the opinion that they can and do function in many ways without the physical mind host being involved. So, behind the scenes and very active in some people, without any practices or interest in Psi, occult, or esoteric. I would even assume that some of these alters are products of lives lived before, or even ancestors, or guides, or whatever else exists. So I tend to disagree with any of it being solely the practiced esoteric or occult zone, or only those in the know or with enough power/fuel.

 

[Keldan]

Actually "it" vanished as soon as i noticed, I just felt the presence of this particular person before i "looked".
And why do you think this person wasnt/isnt practicing(practicing what anyway? remote viewing? magic in general? a handstand?)? How would you know too?

The person you’re thinking of in the previous sentence has a long scar on their right calf. And when you think of them, you think of a few hometown trips you made to visit them. That should answer how I would know. I’m going to leave it there so we don’t derail the main topic as in discussing entities that present as a black mass of darkness.

 

[Durward]

It just got interesting @Keldan

 

[FraterFraxinus]

It just got interesting @Keldan

The person you’re thinking of in the previous sentence has a long scar on their right calf. And when you think of them, you think of a few hometown trips you made to visit them. That should answer how I would know. I’m going to leave it there so we don’t derail the main topic as in discussing entities that present as a black mass of darkness.

I dont get it to be honest. Is there some metapher im not getting?
Because theres no truth to that whatsoever.