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Do You Think That There Could Be Some Sort Of A Hell Or Hell Realms After Death?

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In addition to just there possibly being some sort of hell that your soul can go to after death, and also I just want to very briefly make the assumption that you are all currently more awake beyond what mainstream-society and reductionist-materialist mainstream science and atheism try to tell you is real..So now that we've got all of that out of the way, in addition to there possibly being some form of like a Christian hell that you can go to, in Buddhism it actually says that there are actually like a whole bunch of different kinds of hell realms, but that the suffering there is not eternal, and that their purpose is really to try to purify people's souls through pain and suffering or something like that I guess that you could say too.

In more 'New Age' types of circles and messages they sort of try to say that like 'Everybody's gonna make it' in the end, and that there really isn't any kind of a 'judgment', or even that that serial killer over there who just did all of that is probably just going to end up like 'partying' with you or something after you die too..I however don't really think that this is the case, and judging by how like incredibly fucked up this world is, I'm not so sure if just dying and leaving it is really necessarily going to make everything be like super awesome all of a sudden. I think that there probably is some sort of judgement that happens there too as well.

I mentioned before in a previous post that I came to sort of the realization that this reality also seems to be surprisingly 'Christian', and that spiritual beings like say 'God', 'Jehovah', 'Yahweh', 'Jesus', 'Arch-Angel Michael', 'Lucifer', and 'Satan' it would seem could actually be real beings that really actually exist in this world, or had existed on it at some point. It also seems that there is an 'energy' on Earth that you might actually describe as being 'Satanic', and that there really is spiritual warfare that exists here between the forces of Light and Dark, and good and evil and all of that stuff too.

It would also seem though that there could also be many multiple higher-dimensions and realms that we can incarnate into as well that would seem to be more like 'heaven', or at least compared to this place or something.

I don't really know or think that everybody's just 'gonna make it' in the end, or at least on this go-around on the reincarnation Samsara wheel. And in fact, I think that if a person is like some sort of say like 'serial-rapist/murderer' or something, or perhaps if they're also like some sort of 'genocidal-tyrant' or something too, then I don't really think that they're probably going to be going to a very good place at all after they die for probably a really long time..
 

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Recycling and repurposing are not human inventions
 

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Recycling and repurposing are not human inventions
Well, it could be that we've all been being 'recycled' for possibly very many lifetimes in some sort of a reincarnation-Matrix trap for the soul and spirit..that was maybe even set up by some sort of like malevolent and very powerful God-like being or beings, which the Gnostics in Ancient Greece called the Demiurge, and who also either Jehovah, Yahweh, Lucifer, or Satan could have actually also been too as well.
 
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According to Qabalah, there are several realms of hell, in land and water form. Fire is in the air and on the lake. But, there is a Muti layer circle of the waters diagrammed that is much like an onion. Several types of land exist, such as red clay ie the red Adam.
 

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I think hell is summoned by fear. And fear causes energy. And that energy is eating. You have an electric channel around your body. And when loaded with magnetic field it attracks strange creepy activities that scares you. Like a battery it is draining. It sucks out your energy. Until you are a nobody. It empty your memory. The same way it works with computers since it is an electric thing. I think even you do not deserve it you can end up in that electric field. So we need saviers. Not judgers. We need experts in this field. Like a deer in an electric wire. You free it. YOu do not say it is a sinner.
 

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I think hell is summoned by fear. And fear causes energy. And that energy is eating. You have an electric channel around your body. And when loaded with magnetic field it attracks strange creepy activities that scares you. Like a battery it is draining. It sucks out your energy. Until you are a nobody. It empty your memory. The same way it works with computers since it is an electric thing. I think even you do not deserve it you can end up in that electric field. So we need saviers. Not judgers. We need experts in this field. Like a deer in an electric wire. You free it. YOu do not say it is a sinner.
What we really need, is for everybody to just start spamming a bunch of 'Truth' stuff to the whole entire internet, all of the stuff that they don't tell the brainwashed-sheep general public, and then now you guys can now all go tell it to everybody instead. This will probably maybe even make some sort of a significant difference, the levels of social-conditioning and programming that is put on people since birth is actually insane, just as an example, just look at a wild animal, they just move around every which way they want all crazy and shit, but look at humans, and you'll see that they follow like an insane amount of highly and incredibly complex social rules and norms and regulations pretty much at all times, and also probably even without even knowing about it. The evil New World Order control-system has put all of this stuff on people, because they also happen to be very rich, determined and intelligent in their evil ways..and are like the 'Chess Masters', who are playing against the brainwashed-'dumbasses', who don't even know how to play checkers.
 

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Do You Think That There Could Be Some Sort Of A Hell Or Hell Realms After Death?​

※ → Dre_87, et al,

Again, this starts out with the assumption (belief) that there are deities and other supranational apparitions and beings. That belief has an entanglement with a pathway upon death. In this entanglement, there is a transmutation or metamorphosis into some other spectral form of energy that is modulated with the sum total of the consciousness of the deceased → then suitable for travel to this other supernatural realm ("hell").

This question (and accompanying beliefs) pushes the inquiry into a plethora of investigatory avenues that ultimately cascade into the theory that would make sense of the idea that intelligence and "consciousness" somehow survive death. OR The process might suggest that the question cannot be answered.

You have to break down the questing into the components that make the central premise (After Death) and the companion premise that there is a higher plane of existence.

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I occasionally look at my deceased parents. My father is in a group, mainly male, learning about relationship. My mother is in a group, mainly female but with some advanced males, learning about planetary energies, and more recently including solar systemic energies.

When I ask just now about Hell (she was orthodox Roman Catholic) she points out an unhappy group of human spirits fighting each other for control/dominance. It seems they stay there as long as they fight for power.

I suppose a lot of politicians spend time there - and my mother has just agreed.
 

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I occasionally look at my deceased parents. My father is in a group, mainly male, learning about relationship. My mother is in a group, mainly female but with some advanced males, learning about planetary energies, and more recently including solar systemic energies.

When I ask just now about Hell (she was orthodox Roman Catholic) she points out an unhappy group of human spirits fighting each other for control/dominance. It seems they stay there as long as they fight for power.

I suppose a lot of politicians spend time there - and my mother has just agreed.
I know some people that are probably going to hell, Psychiatrists. They are the equivalent of doing some sort of like Nazi-doctor, Dr. Josef Mengele types of shit.
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I know some people that are probably going to hell, Psychiatrists. They are the equivalent of doing some sort of like Nazi-doctor, Dr. Josef Mengele types of shit.
Alright so currently there are about 33,000 psychiatrists that are in the United States...So it sounds like it's probably going to be a real 'good time'.
 
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Let's look at this from non-Abrahamic view. There is an underworld, but no hell; there are otherworldly places, but the closest to Heaven.
Or, look at the most ancient map and investigate the civilizations at the time.
 
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Let's look at this from non-Abrahamic view. There is an underworld, but no hell; there are otherworldly places, but the closest to Heaven.
Or, look at the most ancient map and investigate the civilizations at the time.
Alot of those ancient maps are flat earth, oh..did I just go there?
 

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I was in a sort of weird reality which sort of resonated a certain ecstatic love and happiness for the whole time i was there. I was only permitted to access one room and that was it There was a door that looked really secure that I could faintly hear a voice that sounded like my Dad who would talk back for a while when I talked through the door. There was also completely incoherent voices chattering in the atmosphere of the room but the only voice I could understand was the one behind the door. Then someone who seemed to know who I was teleported into the room and mind controlled me to steal somebodies credit card in the place behind the door Which I'm still pissed off about. But he had a vehicle I assume was stolen and we teleported it to another point in time and then they were like, "Oh look a bar, FINALLY" After driving for some insignificant time only I guess we were in China or something because it was a Chinese restaurant and smelled like boiled human flesh mixed with MSG. They ordered a bunch of random stuff they didn't even know what they were ordering but I refused to eat any of the food under suspicions it was made out of people. But they didn't listen and just ate it like it didn't matter what it was.. and then it came time to pay and they all pretended they didn't have money so I gave the guy who abducted me from wherever I was all magick movements style the credit card, only the restaurant we were at didn't accept credit cards so the people working there threatened to kill us, that part I could clearly understand somehow. So we just ran out of there back to the vehicle and then things got all cursed and evil and the person who'd dragged me into that situation yelled at me to open a portal to get them out of there but I can't do magick on Earth within the location I'm in except for using the embedded tonal channels which the solar system was manifest from, from another universe which is I assume inside the Earth woven into Jupiter's world and the world plane above Saturn which was ravaged by Marduk (Hank) and me, trying to stand up against Hank, which apparently I had a psychotically overpowered willpower because it resulted in seemingly everywhere outside of that lifes home property being shockwaved and obliterated... So then after began the miserable time where I was told that I wasn't allowed in the real universe anymore and then spent sometimes going all over the timeline and using my power to create magical things for people I was trying to warn that in sometime in the future a comet would drag the Earth out of it's orbit and that we should use a sort of dust I created which would melt rock almost enzymatically into a sort of malleable form and that if they ever needed more they could just ring a bell tuned to my call frequency and I could give them more so then I adopted the name, "Bell", which somehow the call tone frequency was modified to send Marduk instead of me, and then they managed to get it back to summoning me.. but they just did that so they could sacrifice me to some evil deity or power "siri", and then started calling me Lucifer instead of Bell and then ripped off my hands after tying me up.. and it was literally the most disrespectful thing they could've done. Needless to say, I ended up totally sabotaging a great number of places "powers that be" and moved all of the ones temples, arches, and anything with their symbols, deep underground and then I shifted the horizon to not line up with where it was before so if the ones I subverted into the depths tried to come back up they would just find endless dirt, rock and pressure no matter where they went, the ones who I felt had that low of a moral standing to try to sacrifice me like that, so the ones who tried using now buried methods of getting around the Earth and that those that tried to call onto these subverted powers, they would be sent under the ground and their spirit would be turned into petroleum and they'd be forced to live in a disgusting pocket of the Earth which if they tried to leave it would ignite the water that was also mixed in with the petroleum with a high intensity multi tonal frequency pattern which breaks hydrogen and oxygen apart from water. So they would surely be killed. And that's the story of how I ruined everyone's Christmas
 

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I remember pondering the realms of heaven and Hell. Belief is a powerful thing. I remember the few times I attempted to astral back in the day on different concoctions(which I couldn't bare to do nowadays) and found myself in my belief to be in locations described like this. But everyone belief is different. Could be hell, could be Sheol or just a great lucid dream. Only the practiced ones really know.
 
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Yes, based off my beliefs there are two possibilities: I die and go to hell because of wickedness (disobedience) staying in the occult when told to leave it (channeling the Holy Spirit through a friend praying in tongues). Or. I go back to my ancestral roots, and believe in that, or take the Essene route to the rest of my days here.
 

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I do not come into my answers in my own my own mind but the mind of Michael the Angel
Yes there many realities
Yes there are many hells we call them lower planes
You may jump to different planes in the name of Jevohah Jiro, Elohim or in the name of the Angels Michael being the first as I , Gabriel my second, Raphael my third, Uriel my Fourth.
As long as you know God *(generally this is misunderstood) to know god is to know spirit. Does that mean you should worship god ) YOU ALREADY ARE. We call this Divine Providence.

When a man dies he goes to the mental realm which is what you are already living in. )))) So your saying I'm dead? Nope I am saying you are in the exact same place. The difference is when you die you will manifest in the mental plane some people say the astral but you are already half in that every day. So dying you will go to the mental plane which is past the astral this is the actual home of gods.

Meditation = mental plane= here you can see a plain key on how to already access the multiple hells, heavens, why here on earth.

All this questioning is also right in line with the biblical text referring to YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS WILL HAVE VISIONS so we will be able to communicate with VISHNU which is a god but also a perspective shift to being able to BASICALLY DREAM WHILE AWAKE .

So I ask you brother how powerful are you that a man can decide what he wants and go and get it.

Channeled Saint Micha-el

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In Cabbala words are Worlds and it is true as we see that indeed it is true
The Buddha says to thee we do not experience such Suffering "Duka eternally this is TRUE HELL once a man has determined that he has been suffering he then can take action to alleviate his suffering by
A. Not caring about it
B. Fuminagting it with the love of Christ or love of the Buddha

Let me give you this peace from the 7th D you my friend will not see a Hell when it is the end as many have written about and the Egyptians no this my friend is only a transition to yet another chance to serve the almighty through even more extraordinary changes.

Lucky us that we get to live here as sons and daughters of the deities and gods that came before us.

It is true God rules this world the sovereign all ruling god GOOD that rules all things including Samael excuse me Satan which you have dominion over in the name of Yesod Elohim .

Life can get pretty complex man but I tell you this if a man realize his true base purpose in life is to extend himself into the spiritual kingdom so far that when you arrive at the end of life there is nothing left inside because you sir gave it all.

Death yet another train from god and Heaven and Hell yet another place for me to triumph in the name enlightment or the light.


I'll leave you with this to empower save these somewhere they will come in great handle in praise, worship, answers, divinination, help
12 Angels of the Year from the Book of Raziel

Nysan, Yar, Zevan, tamus, Abelul, Tysiryn, Marquesnam, Quislep, Tobez, or Thebeth, Sabat, Adar, Post adar, Postmodo.

Agla Adonai Elohim


= EliAlijah - Love one another greatly in this we give wisdom and peace.


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Book of Raziel for Extreme Understanding and love
Emerald Book of Tablets Amazing Sauce
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Talk to and Ask
Michael the Captain Michael the Angel
Check your radio for signs of the spirit
Check your phone for signs of the spirit
Check your conversation for the signs of the spirit
Check your inner dialogue for the signs of the spirit
Check your love level for signs of the spirit
Check your aura for signs of the spirit
Check what hand you are using for signs of the spirit
Become a watcher of yourself communicate downward in the light of love
Be Well Brethren
 

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I like to read this. Very interesting. I do not understand who someone can finds words to describe it this way. But it is very educational. I learn a lot from it.
 
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Why is a Christian in the Occult? Guaranteed there are people right this second doings acts that would make most people puke, to be frank.
Wickedness in high places, making black magic adepts look like amateurs.

We are tasked with delivering gifts of the spirit. Working of Miracles anyone?
We are tasked with doing the will of God. How? We do what we do to fulfill it.
 

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When I ask just now about Hell (she was orthodox Roman Catholic) she points out an unhappy group of human spirits fighting each other for control/dominance. It seems they stay there as long as they fight for power.

I suppose a lot of politicians spend time there - and my mother has just agreed.
Are those in power or seeking power not, in some cases, holders of knowledge? If they have knowledge, why would they risk going through hell? How can enlightened people risk such a passage when they are supposed to be in positions where they can perhaps be free from physical and spiritual suffering?
 
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