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-Manifestation. Despite the Secret's vapid packaging, you would find many more people with measurable material success having used manifestation than people attaining the equivalent using grimoires. In fact, the general pattern with those utilizing 'spirits' is for one problem to be solved, and another to pop up to keep the hamster wheel moving.
-Ascension. While the overwhelming majority of material related to ascension (usually 'channeled') is completely useless garbage, this wasn't always the case. In the 1990s there appeared in certain obscure new agey byways some very attuned people who created actual physical devices to effectively advance one's evolution. This was truly a precious window of time and I won't speculate here why it closed.
New age is based on real stuff. When internet came, people started really discovering the faiths of the world, as traveling became easier some travelled and gained some knowledge of other faiths and even occult systems.
But what also happened, was that young people after months or short years of learning went home and started teaching what they thought was right, basing on what they understood or didn't understood. Worse yet, people from these "exotic lands" started learning that in the western world people will pay big money for what they do cheap or for free at home. An American dream of sorts drove young people with short knowledge to go abroad to become rich and it was rather easy for them. Not to mention some predators, even some kicked out of their country just to start cults abroad.
So no kidding, you will find grains of truths, but knowledge of them will be most often shallow. And of course some of it will work for some people... especially if they then made a selling out of it.
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…but I 100% agree that 90s and 00s were way more positive times than now.
Sure, I'm not saying most of it isn't just complete junk. But I am saying there were people who had incredible knowledge and skills and I can attest to that from my own usage of their inventions.
Sure, I'm not saying most of it isn't just complete junk. But I am saying there were people who had incredible knowledge and skills and I can attest to that from my own usage of their inventions.
What I see in her that they get right is kindness, grace, forgiveness, seeing the best is people. Seeing all life as a learning opportunity. Basically going though life in Lawful Good alignment.
The negatives are a slight victim complex left from classic New Thought that says your manifest your own problems because you're not thinking right.
Manifestation. Yep yep. I thought that stuff was new Age twaddle for a couple of decades. Took me a while to warm up to the word.
I picked up a Neville Goddardian New Thought practice after reading Mitch Horowitz. But after "manifesting" multiple solutions using just my imagination I was like, damn, I guess we really do live in the Matrix.
The effects were different than demons who will "manifest" results in a very nuts-and-bolts, hands-in-the -guts-of-reality sort of way.
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Thinking about it more.
Demons often work like intelligent “spells”. New Thought... just sort of shifts everything at once. It's cool and honestly shocks the fuck out of me more.
It's a little hard to communicate the difference without an example.
Around 2005, my girlfriend at the time worked in a hostile corporate environment, and was being maliciously attacked by one of her office frenemies to drive her out. To protect her, I used it as an opportunity to use a classic spiritual subjugation working. I gave the demon instructions to make them "sit down" and continue until the danger was eliminated.
At first it manifested effects in the target emotionally, as self-doubt. But being a psychopath, I suspect, they shrugged that them emotional off. The demon, which one I do not remember, escalated the attack so they were driven to distraction by petty accidents, so they were out of the office. Eventually it made them very sick so they left. Problem solved.
With normal person my girlfriend's attacker would have just been made to sit down, and take a breather, and been under my thumb. In my view this is the problem with demons. They are relentless and inclined to overkill. Now I tend to only use them when you need a extreme push at a specific place. A whack with a hammer.
With New Thought the effect is like “poof” – suddenly reality shifts and it's just not a problem anymore.
Like, don't wack the car… just get a new car.
And I ain't no New Thought master, but it seem like effects in a sort of generalized way, closer to archangels. Good stuff!
But for a while it sort of weird me out far more than Lovecraftian critters showing up in my living room to do some business.
Manifestation. Yep yep. I thought that stuff was new Age twaddle for a couple of decades. Took me a while to warm up to the word.
I picked up a Neville Goddardian New Thought practice after reading Mitch Horowitz. But after "manifesting" multiple solutions using just my imagination I was like, damn, I guess we really do live in the Matrix.
I may dust off some old copies of William Walker Atkinson but I refuse to ever pick up anything from Neale Donald Walsch. I had to endure Conversations with God on cassette tape while perusing the feminine species who invited me to their Wiccan circle, thought afterwards the pain was relieved, multiple times during that specific detainment.
Interesting, Sabbatius! I keep meaning to read William Walker Atkinson.
Walsch! Gah. Noted! Too much decontexualized God (or even gods) talk still turns me off. Can't do it.
I originally was introduced to this stuff in Shakti Gawain's book that was making the round in the 1980's. But her techniques did not work for me after giving it an honest, concerted effort for months. .Mechanically visualizing your objective in pink balloon FLOATING AWAY from me did nothing.
Now I can see now, from an embodied, felt, lived, immersive feeling it really made no sense to send what want away from you - not that I could articulate why then - but she gave no theory why she was constructing that exercise in that way. Just do this. It was all very intellectual, mechanical, and intrumentalist.
So I wrote it all off. It was only after reading the way Neville Goddard (with Mitch) described it that it got linked up in my head, and I was like holy shit!
What I like about Law of Assumption is how it's presented as just a series of techniques , and not The Trurth (tm) . Nobody fight like packs of feral cats and dogs there like they do on neo-Wiccan occult forms. Neville speaks in "Abrahamaic" but constantly points out the Bible is just metaphor or your own abiilites.
Just to note, I still find Manifestation work detestable. It ranks up there to Prosperity Gospel teachings found in Mega Box Church Coliseum eyesores.
I completely understand the traditional concept of manifestation work being the core of any esoteric working, and apply the concept to virtually every work I do. However, most of what New Age teachings are simply overpriced positive affirmation work, not manifestation- though both have overlapping ties. The image of these Youtube ladies sitting in their cars discussing how to manifest your dreams in nine easy steps- yeah-nope.
Dammit. In your opinion, is there no spiritual elevation aspect to the practice???
We all start out shallow. Getting your dreams is a valid way to overcome attachments. As a wise man once said, "To destroy a man, make his dreams come true."
In Goetia the "demons" are burning garbage off your soul, but that will not be obvious until you've engaged with these uh, Neoplatonic-Orphic Wrathful Buddhas of the grims (as I think of them) for some time into it.
It's the method. We all manifest. New Age hype painted the imagery into a get-rich-quick scheme. As I have stated in other posts, much of the Plastic Shaman I have to deal with also preach Prosperity Gospel but in the name of Manifestation courses, especially with drumming and sweat lodge circles. Amazing how I had no clue my Tribe used crystals as a focus(we never did, by the way.)
Not enough good stories / myth to be bigger. In the more Faustian grims the magician would risk their immortal soul (not really, just good theater) for Love, Wisdom, Wealth and Knowledge. Now it's dreaming up Amazon shopping list (all good, go git some) but not much else.
Also, sorry some of your tribe's native practices got colonized! Fuck.
I see neo-Wiccanism colonizing some Latin, South, and Central American indigenous practices and I'm like, da FUQ? It's all the McDonald's fat and salt and smug they add. And the neoliberal dream to be fancy moderns who know better.
Personally I don't believe we manifest anything in the sense of make it out of nothing... Everything you can possibly imagine already exists as fractal timelines within the chaos of Uni-verse B ...Non local reality ...
I like to think we are all travellers of this cosmos and have our own little system ...when one says they created something they moved to that point where it exists..
Works for me... Digital tools have opened up a whole new way of working in my opinion ...Black mirror check... Sigils throbbing check.. Subliminals straight to the subconscious mind check..
L.A. actor Royce Christyn writing a manual of his New Thought scripting techniques, with tremendous positivity and verve. We here might think of it as 'Chaos Magic for Normies. ' He may come across as a bit saccharine, but he also gives a gentle and non-pretentious intro to quantum models for...
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He's doing borderline Chaos Magic - well , totally is - and adding fun stuff combining his scripting with the quantum randomizing app (if that is what is truly is on the backend ) Randonautica. I keep meaning to give it a spin.
As far as the New Age movement getting anything "right", I don't see any difference from any other path. For me, its all about the application of Will, style conforming to inner nature. Formulae and terminology are empty vessels to be filled, and the ethic of "positive thinking" can be beneficial to anyone who knows how to use it to damn (or use) the pain of existence and march forward.
My beef with the New Age, in general, is aesthetic. A lot of material I have come across is just fucking corny to me, but that's my perspective rooted in my sense of style. But if I were pick up a pop-style book and flip through it, I will find something agreeable though it be couched in truisms and shallow sounding "light and love" phraseology. Generally I find myself craving porn as a result - but clearly this should point to an energetic imbalance, a bad past life or some other shit clouding over the same old cultural judgements rooted in some cranky pre-Socratics looking for rules of "cosmic justice" that to me are no more than a dressed up pig. But again, this is about style, not utility.
As far as I can fathom, the "manifesting" I have seen if just wishing according to a rule. Nothing wrong with that, especially if applied with intentionality along some kind of systematic lines. But how is that really different or better or more effective than conjuring freakish spirits to personify (at least) the adventure of will fulfillment? And the notions that I come across - that the Universe will give you what you want without asking for something in return other than good will I find a bit suspect. It could be so, but I am of the mind that the so-called "accursed share" may in fact be a necessary form of dialectic. I guess a complex and time consuming elaboration along ritual lines takes more effort and more credulity than intending personal happiness? Effort wasted in the face of just thinking friendly thoughts towards the Universe, showing gratitude and expecting something in return. I ponder this continually.
Also, there is just a kind of credulity in folks I have met that is based on believing certain narratives without the kind of ruthless investigation that I personally think personifies a true seeker after knowledge. This is not restricted to the class of New Age, btw. How many question the notion of Ascension, its historical roots and its relation to Big T Truth and what it really means? What's its telos, a type of satisfaction? The idea of spiritual evolution to something better or worse to me smells like a carrot, and I wonder where the stick is. Even if it is hidden, I think its still part of the mechanics of Fluff.
Regarding the sweetness and light critique: The Neville Goddard (LOA) folks are far more hardcore than they appear from the outside, More so than neo-Wiccans. They are totally willing to do what neo-Wiccans. would call "black magic" to get or reignite a lover or relationship - the person they call their "SP" - for "Special Person. "
Ok, no, much stranger shit than that. One thing were these plastic vials that you'd dip into water and that would have palpable effects. I tested those with other people over quite an extended period and I witnessed physical effects and longevity (where longevity would be very dubious, plus younger appearances than bio age). They were claimed to be based on alien technology. The most startling one were a series of necklaces that were designed to accelerate ascension. Those were transformational in a way hard to communicate. Most people would (understandably) have looked at these things and just laughed, but my intuition correctly guided me. This stuff appeared and then disappeared.
I havent tried any scalar stuff, so I can't comment- but why include a supportive study if it's not peer reviewed?
This is anthropomorphizing the universe. I can't emphasize this enough, but there is no ultimate god or conscious force keeping track of everything. The source of the universe is not even aware of itself.
Ok, no, much stranger shit than that. One thing were these plastic vials that you'd dip into water and that would have palpable effects. I tested those with other people over quite an extended period and I witnessed physical effects and longevity (where longevity would be very dubious, plus younger appearances than bio age). They were claimed to be based on alien technology. The most startling one were a series of necklaces that were designed to accelerate ascension. Those were transformational in a way hard to communicate. Most people would (understandably) have looked at these things and just laughed, but my intuition correctly guided me. This stuff appeared and then disappeared.
