Why is magic so sexual?

Alt title: Why does chaos magick involve jacking off to sigils?

I just decided to make it more broad since I think other magical traditions involve some type of sex magick.

Yes I'm too scared too google this and I haven't touched Liber Null in a long time.

people have found that sexual vibes or stimulation helps raise and/or release [more] energy. Read: Kundalini in the yogic traditions. The vibrance of this energy or power does evoke a feeling of sensuality and may be its essence.
But magick or spellwork doesn't have to be sexual or even ecstatic, it can and is anything that helps you achieve an altered state of consciousness, or state of raised energy, higher vibes, whatever and establish your magickal persona.

Alot of modern magic is descended from the work of 19th century libertines who were into occultism as a reaction against the industrial and conservative society they lived in. This continued into the 1960's counter cultural movement. If you look at older magic sexual abstinence and chastity is recommended most of the time as a part of the purification process for ritual, although there are a smattering of mideval and classical rites that involve pederasty and orgies. "Sex magick" in modernity is mostly due to people who have a predilection for libertine behavior using the occult to justify their passions.

People assume magick is “sexual” because they confuse the method with the mechanism.

Sex isn’t powerful.

Altered consciousness is.

Most systems that use sexual stimulation rely on one thing only:

the brief collapse of rational filtering that happens under high tension or at the moment of release.

But this state can be produced in far more controlled ways:

• disciplined tension of will

• breath disruption

• trance induction

• sensory overload

• sensory deprivation

• geometric focus

• or strict ritual structure

These methods generate the same neurological drop — without depending on biological reflexes.

Sex became popular in modern occultism because it’s accessible, not because it is strategically superior.

Magick doesn’t require arousal.

Magick requires precision.

If the mind crosses the threshold into a narrow, unified state of intent, the operation proceeds.

How you reach that threshold is irrelevant.

Climax can do it.

Sustained tension can do it.

Pure will can do it more reliably than both.

So “sex magick” is not a core of the craft — merely one crude tool in a much larger system.

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A.Nox said:

People assume magick is “sexual” because they confuse the method with the mechanism.

Sex isn’t powerful.

Altered consciousness is.

Most systems that use sexual stimulation rely on one thing only:

the brief collapse of rational filtering that happens under high tension or at the moment of release.

But this state can be produced in far more controlled ways:

• disciplined tension of will

• breath disruption

• trance induction

• sensory overload

• sensory deprivation

• geometric focus

• or strict ritual structure

These methods generate the same neurological drop — without depending on biological reflexes.

Sex became popular in modern occultism because it’s accessible, not because it is strategically superior.

Magick doesn’t require arousal.

Magick requires precision.

If the mind crosses the threshold into a narrow, unified state of intent, the operation proceeds.

How you reach that threshold is irrelevant.

Climax can do it.

Sustained tension can do it.

Pure will can do it more reliably than both.

So “sex magick” is not a core of the craft — merely one crude tool in a much larger system.

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Yeah I noticed sexual arousal gets me faster to the state faster than any of the other methods I've tried so far. That being will and pain. But I used the method more because that's what was recommended.

I should probably stop making posts when I'm already falling asleep.

AbammonTheGreat said:

"Sex magick" in modernity is mostly due to people who have a predilection for libertine behavior using the occult to justify their passions.

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This is spot on. The most simple form of this is in sigil activation via mastubration which is a misdirection from something that can be attained fairly easily and with far greater benefit to oneself via meditation. Its a lazy, self indulgent inclination that just so happens to achieve minor things that supposedly prove its worth, but will not fulfill itself in depth the way a more disciplined approach would.

Sex magic is older than sin. In its simplest form, just failing to release in orgasm and simultaneously disbursing or directing the crude vitality skillfully throughout the arousal, buildup and prolonged plateau phases, then (in dual-angelic cultivation) the partners tag-team the sparkling energy until sublimating it or else sublimating oneself, and, in turn, riding out the waves… honestly, just thinking about it bores me~ hahaha.

All this has a purpose, either for heightened meditative states, or else eliciting higher orders of energetic projection if that's your thing.

On a much more pedestrian level of subtleties, it is possible to become sensitive enough to sexual energy, impersonally, that through some energetic attraction (as if in a vacuum), spiritualized sensuality flows into oneself quite freely (quite obviously so in proximity) seen as a train of pairs of glowing globes in column, and felt distinctly as they enter one's body. Some people here might get off on that if I insinuate that vampirism is involved~ heehee!!

It boils down to the subtlety of being imbued with a selfless nonpsychological awareness which seems to beckon such encounters with the (sexual/dual) nature of Creation. It's the level of one's refinement in terms of the absence of psychological referencing one sees (call it a lack of personalistic "views"). Energy just seems to flock toward one's attention so stripped of the personally referenced.

Again, what is one to do with all this free energy? I just smile and wear giant sunglasses.

I'm not even entirely sure I even know what sex magic is anymore...

Butterfly Affect said:

Alt title: Why does chaos magick involve jacking off to sigils?

I just decided to make it more broad since I think other magical traditions involve some type of sex magick.

Yes I'm too scared too google this and I haven't touched Liber Null in a long time.

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In matter of chaos magic, if you don't want to do sexual stuff, simply don't do it. Why is it there? Because the dude who wrote it, did it and it worked for him. That's all there is to it.

Butterfly Affect said:

I should probably stop making posts when I'm already falling asleep.

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This.

A.Nox said:

People assume magick is “sexual” because they confuse the method with the mechanism.

Sex isn’t powerful.

Altered consciousness is.

Most systems that use sexual stimulation rely on one thing only:

the brief collapse of rational filtering that happens under high tension or at the moment of release.

But this state can be produced in far more controlled ways:
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So “sex magick” is not a core of the craft — merely one crude tool in a much larger system.

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While I like much of what you said it appears to me that sex IS powerful. While sexual energy can be used for magickal purposes in the ways already discussed and while sex magick itself is not necessary to alter consciousness, it seems to me that sexual energy goes beyond that. IMO sex is also a form of magick (beyond the mechanisms discussed here).

A.Nox said:

Sex became popular in modern occultism because it’s accessible, not because it is strategically superior.

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Yes indeed, it is the accesibility. Sometimes people had problems on the other roads and then for them it seems that it is superior. But when they find their route on the other paths, most of them express that they changed up their mind about it.

People who are saying, magic is all sex for me, are a red flag. As a woman I tend to trust not such a person. (Yes I have met them saying that while spying to the tits)

For me, sex can be a part of the praxis, but a much much larger part of my praxis is build on other things. I have so many other ways to do what I want to do, my toolkit is large enough. I didn't have more succes than other methods, mostly it was more the other way around. So sex doesn't hold a spell on me and magic is not sexual for me.

through many exalted hours of getting high and jerking off, I have found that sexual arousal raises energy from the very depths of the form. From the very depths of God. This, climbing your spine and spilling forth in the "little death" when your ego dies, allows a potent release of unfiltered energy into any form you seek to enchant. Maybe it's "crude" or "brute force," but, good lord, does it work.

Sex is the most accessible means of experiencing a breakdown of duality and an experience of whole, GODHOOD, this makes it appealing and powerful. Sexual metaphors for metaphysics and Magick appeal deeply to the deepest parts of the brain, and so are effective teaching and casting tools. Hope this answers your question. Much love.

I think its just alchemy. Its in own form and some people like to do that type of Magick more than others. It can be used to alter senses and probably other purposes that I don't know about.

The reason why I think demons/daemons? And angels want purification I think is because they might have higher sensitivity of smell. They might be able to smell it and its probably smelly to them.

So if you want to talk to one you practice abstinence so they are more likely to show up.

My hypothesis for the whole moralzing of this practice was because back in the day pregnancy and stds were harder to prevent. Thus waiting till marriage made more sense. It was so people had more stability in case of a kid.

Now people can still do wait but moralizing it is kind of weird to me. Its just a thing thats a part of the world. Also people have more protection now from all that. Yeah. Thats my take

The answer to both questions would be: It doesn't have to (be). But sex is "sexy", so it sells. This is not to say there is no inherent power in sexual practices, but they're not necessary at all, they're just one way out of many.