Transgender & Chaos Magick

Interesting to see the community here on this forum is no different than most outside of it lol..

Some of you get what I meant & I appreciate it

But damn wasn't expecting so many trans phobs or people lacking the understanding of energy in this type of forum

I guess I thought most of us here were beyond stereotyping & had some actual spiritual knowledge on this subject but it seems only a few do..

I'm actually glad I bothered some of y'all mindsets cause that's what chaos magic is about I'm smiling reading all this I wrote months ago & just read it all

People are here to learn, understand and explore, therefore, they have every right 'not to have enough spiritual knowledge' you specifically favour and appreciate based on your judgement, and allowed to disagree with your views, without having any related phobia to the title's subject.

ArchonLynx said:

Interesting to see the community here on this forum is no different than most outside of it lol..

Some of you get what I meant & I appreciate it

But damn wasn't expecting so many trans phobs or people lacking the understanding of energy in this type of forum

I guess I thought most of us here were beyond stereotyping & had some actual spiritual knowledge on this subject but it seems only a few do..

I'm actually glad I bothered some of y'all mindsets cause that's what chaos magic is about I'm smiling reading all this I wrote months ago & just read it all

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Know exactly how it feels. After joining pagan community I definitely did not expect to find people act the same as Christians I did not like for it. Unfortunately people are people no matter where they are.

I personally don't think you are connected to chaos, if you are a transgender. Chaos is a gnarly state of disorder and nothingness. You are well within the laws of this world. This applies to all of the genders as they are part of our world.

I fear this idea of chaos connected to trans people is harmful. They are one of us. They are meant to be here. There is nothing wrong about them, so they are well within the "order of things".

Fish man said:

I personally don't think you are connected to chaos, if you are a transgender. Chaos is a gnarly state of disorder and nothingness. You are well within the laws of this world. This applies to all of the genders as they are part of our world.

I fear this idea of chaos connected to trans people is harmful. They are one of us. They are meant to be here. There is nothing wrong about them, so they are well within the "order of things".

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Chaos equals change not nothingness..

ArchonLynx said:

Interesting to see the community here on this forum is no different than most outside of it lol..

Some of you get what I meant & I appreciate it

But damn wasn't expecting so many trans phobs or people lacking the understanding of energy in this type of forum

I guess I thought most of us here were beyond stereotyping & had some actual spiritual knowledge on this subject but it seems only a few do..

I'm actually glad I bothered some of y'all mindsets cause that's what chaos magic is about I'm smiling reading all this I wrote months ago & just read it all

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I'd like to think IRL communities are a lot less toxic since people are actually face-to-face and probably would listen to each other better, but I haven't actually been gone to any in-person occultist meetings. Transphobia is an exercise in futility that tries to reassert an imperialist system that doesn't help anyone, an absolute binary of "men must be men, women must be women" neglects the dialectics from which everyone is born and themselves create. Like magic, I think life should be fun and folks should be tolerant of one another. Where's the fun in belittling a person when they want to go by a set of pronouns?

I appreciate you creating this thread anyhow. I've previously known too little about chaos magic to investigate it much, but a connection to transness intrigues me. (I'm trans, for the record.)

ArchonLynx said:

Interesting to see the community here on this forum is no different than most outside of it lol..

Some of you get what I meant & I appreciate it

But damn wasn't expecting so many trans phobs or people lacking the understanding of energy in this type of forum

I guess I thought most of us here were beyond stereotyping & had some actual spiritual knowledge on this subject but it seems only a few do..

I'm actually glad I bothered some of y'all mindsets cause that's what chaos magic is about I'm smiling reading all this I wrote months ago & just read it all

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Couldnt care to read all posts, but ive read some.

The big problem with all the genderfluidity stuff is that it completetly misses the point. The direction is right but the apllication is fucked up in my opinion.
It's just creating new labels and boxes and its also celebrating being not okay with who/what you are disguised in being different, in a weird way.
It's also comes off as highly identitary and has elitetist vibes even if it claims the contrary.
Same with big parts of the political left now acting pretty fascist.

Everyone is male and female energy and in the optimal case those are balanced, invoked at will for the task at hand. I think its not healthy to project this onto the body image.

Other than that it is shall be said that everyone has the right to just be as he wishes to be and shouldnt be harrased or attacked in any way for that but also dont be a special flower and offended if your beliefs arent shared