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The Existential Irish Elk Theory

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"The tragedy of a species becoming unfit for life by over-evolving one ability is not confined to humankind. Thus it is thought, for instance, that certain deer in paleontological times succumbed as they acquired overly-heavy horns. The mutations must be considered blind, they work, are thrown forth, without any contact of interest with their environment. In depressive states, the mind may be seen in the image of such an antler, in all its fantastic splendor pinning its bearer to the ground."

— Peter Wessel Zapffe, "The Last Messiah"


The theory goes that humanity's consciousness has become like that of the giant antlers of an elk; a burden that was once a useful tool.
And as we have gained more and more knowledge and awareness... the antlers have gotten heavier.
In response, most souls reach for:

Isolation- Not in the hermit sense, but in awareness. They shrink what they perceive down to what is desirable. This is a form of shallow shelter.

Anchors- These are institutions, constructs, organized religion, nations... forms of organization created by humanity in order to keep society moving. They are constructs.

Distraction- They use whatever they can to keep themselves busy. Sometimes it's work, sometimes its games and sometimes it's endless reading and researching dressed up as "the pursuit of knowledge".

Sublimation- The act of transmuting experience into art... creation as a form of capturing pieces, but never facing the whole.


As we participate in these the human species gains survival, but it loses itself in full form.
It loses it's myth and trades it of doctrine.

Myth transcends these things because it speaks of the patterns across existence that we have wore… and continue championing, even when we're unaware that we're doing it. When a human sees themselves as a part of the tapestry of existence and that they have a part to play in it all… that’s when The Existential Elk collapses.
For every human isn't a new song... but one that is old.

Because myth isn’t existence transmuted into a creative act… it isn’t sublimation… Myth is patterns that work their way out of humanity and then get snapshotted into form for others to witness. Myth is more like a song that your soul keeps singing… even when you don’t recognize it. But myth can’t live for as long as institutions smother it… So the illusion of the Existential Irish Elk stands…
Because the one antidote to it has been so thoroughly poisoned… that most would call it a sin.

Institutions are myth that has ossified into scaffolding.
Myth is scaffolding that has remembered how to dance.
And existential despair is what happens when we mistake the former for the latter.
 

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This was what inspired me to look into the theory more and ponder about it.
I didn't like the ending. It landed almost hollow in it's vagueness.
Almost felt like someone gritting their teeth through nihilism while pretty music played.
My ending thought was this:

Institutions are myth that has ossified into scaffolding.
Myth is scaffolding that has remembered how to dance.
And existential despair is what happens when we mistake the former for the latter.

What your opinion about where the philosophy leaves the observer?
Where would you point?
 

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This was what inspired me to look into the theory more and ponder about it.
I didn't like the ending. It landed almost hollow in it's vagueness.
Almost felt like someone gritting their teeth through nihilism while pretty music played.
My ending thought was this:

Institutions are myth that has ossified into scaffolding.
Myth is scaffolding that has remembered how to dance.
And existential despair is what happens when we mistake the former for the latter.

What your opinion about where the philosophy leaves the observer?
Where would you point?
I can’t remember the ending as I watched it several days ago, but I remember the video saying something along the lines of “the elk had no way to trim its horns in order to survive, but humans do” and I agree with that sentiment not exclusively in the sense that we can bore and intellectually stunt ourselves to avoid suicide by existential dread, but also humans are orders of magnitude more adaptable than elk.

At the very least I think we will be able to delay our extinction long enough to genuinely evolve into a species more equipped to survive/thrive in the (near) cosmos as opposed to just the Earth.
 

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"The tragedy of a species becoming unfit for life by over-evolving one ability is not confined to humankind. Thus it is thought, for instance, that certain deer in paleontological times succumbed as they acquired overly-heavy horns. The mutations must be considered blind, they work, are thrown forth, without any contact of interest with their environment. In depressive states, the mind may be seen in the image of such an antler, in all its fantastic splendor pinning its bearer to the ground."

— Peter Wessel Zapffe, "The Last Messiah"


The theory goes that humanity's consciousness has become like that of the giant antlers of an elk; a burden that was once a useful tool.
And as we have gained more and more knowledge and awareness... the antlers have gotten heavier.
In response, most souls reach for:

Isolation- Not in the hermit sense, but in awareness. They shrink what they perceive down to what is desirable. This is a form of shallow shelter.

Anchors- These are institutions, constructs, organized religion, nations... forms of organization created by humanity in order to keep society moving. They are constructs.

Distraction- They use whatever they can to keep themselves busy. Sometimes it's work, sometimes its games and sometimes it's endless reading and researching dressed up as "the pursuit of knowledge".

Sublimation- The act of transmuting experience into art... creation as a form of capturing pieces, but never facing the whole.


As we participate in these the human species gains survival, but it loses itself in full form.
It loses it's myth and trades it of doctrine.

Myth transcends these things because it speaks of the patterns across existence that we have wore… and continue championing, even when we're unaware that we're doing it. When a human sees themselves as a part of the tapestry of existence and that they have a part to play in it all… that’s when The Existential Elk collapses.
For every human isn't a new song... but one that is old.

Because myth isn’t existence transmuted into a creative act… it isn’t sublimation… Myth is patterns that work their way out of humanity and then get snapshotted into form for others to witness. Myth is more like a song that your soul keeps singing… even when you don’t recognize it. But myth can’t live for as long as institutions smother it… So the illusion of the Existential Irish Elk stands…
Because the one antidote to it has been so thoroughly poisoned… that most would call it a sin.

Institutions are myth that has ossified into scaffolding.
Myth is scaffolding that has remembered how to dance.
And existential despair is what happens when we mistake the former for the latter.
eve&doe we're getting dumber day by day


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I was not familiar with this metaphor/trope, I have learnt something. Thank you.
I can see its appeal. It is a tragic image that fits the hopelessness of our age.

But when was the human species ever in balance, I wonder? At which point were the antlers just big enough, and when did they start to grow heavy? When did we lose "myth"? Was it when we stopped believing the stars were speckles in a cave? Or when we traded the spoken for the written word? When we built floors and stopped walking on bare soil? Or much later, when we delegated ever more brain functions to machines and intelligent systems?

I believe the wheel turns on and on, the arcana reaches XXI and then tumbles back into 0, the serpent bites her tail: as older versions of the world become reality, layers of artifice are added, like on a palimpsest. But that layer, our layer, in the eyes of our progeny, will be as pure. What is new takes us further away from the source, and then again, and again. We turn and look at the past with nostalgia and awe (and in horror). Seeing myth as the antidote, or that which can save us, is maybe a romantic idea. Are earlier iterations of "the human being" really purer, more authentic, more truthful, closer to the divine?
 
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