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From Nicole VanDenEng's Substack "Telepath"
I mostly feel the stories of astral parasites and vampiric entities are overblown and should usually be avoided, doing more harm than good - but the story of the "adept" VanDenEng meets on Discord to begin journeying together makes one pause.
Although she is a thousand times more New Age than I, she has come to some of the same conclusions about how narrative shapes these encounters. Beware what you accept as true because you, in part, are making these come true.
The entity this poor fool was being vampirized by called itself "Yaldabaoth" - a name I'm sure it plucked out of his mind, or was telepathically sent by one of its other human thralls to him. The thinking that it is literally the being from Gnostic myths is part of the hook he's dangling on. It traps his mind.
Just because some contact calls itself "Lucifer", "Asmodeus", or "Belial" does not mean they are necessarily those specific daimons from myth and lore. The overall process is always one of mythic engagement. New Age mythic literalism has obscured the magician’s traditional operative stance - that the result is never a single-answer, fixed endpoint, aside from what we want to see in the world. All this deliberate astral chatter and laser-light show is a distraction, imho.
And yes, I agree the psychoid entities we meet in the Imaginal are as real in their own realm, but I still feel the biggest danger with the inner Mirror World contacts, aside from being fed on, is grandiosity and ego inflation. The whole idea that some New Age astral shaman can funnel hundreds of souls of accident victims into his astral city of the dead is laughable. Also, what a fucked-up and gross narrative to be living.
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In a Maze of Mirrors, there is no King
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A Dark Entity Will Knock
Part One
A Dark Entity Will Knock
Part Two
A Dark Entity Will Knock
Part Three
Is It an Entity or Your Imagination?
How to tell the difference
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Quotes
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"There were many things I learned from this excursion, and I don’t regret a bit of it because they were very important lessons.
I learned about the danger of narrative—when you accept some elaborate tale as truth. It could even be something innocuous like “I’m an Adromedan.” The moment you lock into something like that, it becomes part of the structure of your reality. From that point on, it influences your opinions, which influence your actions"
Discernment is a crucial piece of working in this field. Your judgement must be apt, as your well-being and your sanity depend on it.
I learned that when you plug into these narratives, the entities behind them will take you on a spin. I left some of this out of the story for the sake of length, but there were endeavors Yaldabaoth would send Towerful on, such as learning the true physics of magick, or creating soul keys for us all to freely enter the astral city. Towerful had complete instructions and explanations for these things. He would spin out on the workings of frequency and black holes and sources of endless energy.
If a being wishes to use you, you’re easier to control if you’re confused. They want you to think you’re making headway with secret information only you are privy to. If you ever find yourself in a position where an entity is divulging the mysteries of sacred geometry or reincarnation or galactic hierarchy, you should stop and ask why the being is telling you these things.
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"There were many things I learned from this excursion, and I don’t regret a bit of it because they were very important lessons.
I learned about the danger of narrative—when you accept some elaborate tale as truth. It could even be something innocuous like “I’m an Adromedan.” The moment you lock into something like that, it becomes part of the structure of your reality. From that point on, it influences your opinions, which influence your actions"
Discernment is a crucial piece of working in this field. Your judgement must be apt, as your well-being and your sanity depend on it.
I learned that when you plug into these narratives, the entities behind them will take you on a spin. I left some of this out of the story for the sake of length, but there were endeavors Yaldabaoth would send Towerful on, such as learning the true physics of magick, or creating soul keys for us all to freely enter the astral city. Towerful had complete instructions and explanations for these things. He would spin out on the workings of frequency and black holes and sources of endless energy.
If a being wishes to use you, you’re easier to control if you’re confused. They want you to think you’re making headway with secret information only you are privy to. If you ever find yourself in a position where an entity is divulging the mysteries of sacred geometry or reincarnation or galactic hierarchy, you should stop and ask why the being is telling you these things.
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Is It an Entity or Your Imagination?
How to tell the difference
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The fact is, even when you’re pretty sure there’s an entity reaching out, it’s still difficult to know what’s you and what’s them. Because of the mode of how this operates, lines can blur. You’re in physical land, and non-physical entities are not. That means that, in order to connect with you, they must first pass through the part of you that is non-physical—your mind, your spirit, your energy.
In doing so, they pick up residue and they take on aspects of your own psychology. Some of that residue is ancient and unavoidable, like archetypes. Some of it is personal and comes from our own mental perspectives and assumptions.
Determining if there’s an actual entity is only the first challenge. After that, you’ve gotta listen. Don’t accept or reject right away.
The first questions people want to ask are: who are you; where are you from; what do you want to tell me?
This is actually not where I start. For one, I think there are multitudes of entities out there. Many of them will simply select a name out of our mythology, depending on how they want you to perceive them. Where they are from… can we even conceptualize that? And asking what they want to say is too close to taking it at face value. You don’t want to accept a narrative until you know the agenda.
Just a quick note. VanDenEng is speaking from a different culture than that of Western Magic.
Wherever she writes the word "ET" or "alien" a more accurate word would be "daimon." See Patrick Harpur's book Daimonic Reality for more details.
I don' do aliens, so it took me a long time to read this book. Jacques Vallee’s 1969 book Passport to Magonia is one of the most influential works in the history of UFO studies. It marked a radical departure from the earlier watches-too-many-scifi-movies "Nuts and Bolts" theory (that UFOs are literally physical spaceships from other planets pileted by literally phsical aliens) and instead proposed that the phenomenon is a modern manifestation of ancient folklore. "Daimons" in the ealier language .
Vallee suggest, and I agree, modern UFO encounters are indistinguishable from historical accounts of fairies, elves, demons, and angels. He argues that while the interpretation of the phenomenon changes based on the culture and technology of the time (remember, the Story shapes why you experience, so choose a good one) , the underlying reality remains the same.
Almost nobody takes the idea they are literally little green men from Mars any more. That idea was popular back in the 1950's. Except a few moon-brained people with ties to military intelligence and the military-industrial complex, who favor the physical Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH) because "physical threats" justify big physical budgets. Your tax dollars at work, folks.
I mostly feel the stories of astral parasites and vampiric entities are overblown and should usually be avoided, doing more harm than good - but the story of the "adept" VanDenEng meets on Discord to begin journeying together makes one pause.
Although she is a thousand times more New Age than I, she has come to some of the same conclusions about how narrative shapes these encounters. Beware what you accept as true because you, in part, are making these come true.
The entity this poor fool was being vampirized by called itself "Yaldabaoth" - a name I'm sure it plucked out of his mind, or was telepathically sent by one of its other human thralls to him. The thinking that it is literally the being from Gnostic myths is part of the hook he's dangling on. It traps his mind.
Just because some contact calls itself "Lucifer", "Asmodeus", or "Belial" does not mean they are necessarily those specific daimons from myth and lore. The overall process is always one of mythic engagement. New Age mythic literalism has obscured the magician’s traditional operative stance - that the result is never a single-answer, fixed endpoint, aside from what we want to see in the world. All this deliberate astral chatter and laser-light show is a distraction, imho.
And yes, I agree the psychoid entities we meet in the Imaginal are as real in their own realm, but I still feel the biggest danger with the inner Mirror World contacts, aside from being fed on, is grandiosity and ego inflation. The whole idea that some New Age astral shaman can funnel hundreds of souls of accident victims into his astral city of the dead is laughable. Also, what a fucked-up and gross narrative to be living.
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In a Maze of Mirrors, there is no King
----------------------------------------
A Dark Entity Will Knock
Part One
A Dark Entity Will Knock
Part Two
A Dark Entity Will Knock
Part Three
Is It an Entity or Your Imagination?
How to tell the difference
---------------------------------------------
Quotes
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"There were many things I learned from this excursion, and I don’t regret a bit of it because they were very important lessons.
I learned about the danger of narrative—when you accept some elaborate tale as truth. It could even be something innocuous like “I’m an Adromedan.” The moment you lock into something like that, it becomes part of the structure of your reality. From that point on, it influences your opinions, which influence your actions"
Discernment is a crucial piece of working in this field. Your judgement must be apt, as your well-being and your sanity depend on it.
I learned that when you plug into these narratives, the entities behind them will take you on a spin. I left some of this out of the story for the sake of length, but there were endeavors Yaldabaoth would send Towerful on, such as learning the true physics of magick, or creating soul keys for us all to freely enter the astral city. Towerful had complete instructions and explanations for these things. He would spin out on the workings of frequency and black holes and sources of endless energy.
If a being wishes to use you, you’re easier to control if you’re confused. They want you to think you’re making headway with secret information only you are privy to. If you ever find yourself in a position where an entity is divulging the mysteries of sacred geometry or reincarnation or galactic hierarchy, you should stop and ask why the being is telling you these things.
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More Quotes
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"There were many things I learned from this excursion, and I don’t regret a bit of it because they were very important lessons.
I learned about the danger of narrative—when you accept some elaborate tale as truth. It could even be something innocuous like “I’m an Adromedan.” The moment you lock into something like that, it becomes part of the structure of your reality. From that point on, it influences your opinions, which influence your actions"
Discernment is a crucial piece of working in this field. Your judgement must be apt, as your well-being and your sanity depend on it.
I learned that when you plug into these narratives, the entities behind them will take you on a spin. I left some of this out of the story for the sake of length, but there were endeavors Yaldabaoth would send Towerful on, such as learning the true physics of magick, or creating soul keys for us all to freely enter the astral city. Towerful had complete instructions and explanations for these things. He would spin out on the workings of frequency and black holes and sources of endless energy.
If a being wishes to use you, you’re easier to control if you’re confused. They want you to think you’re making headway with secret information only you are privy to. If you ever find yourself in a position where an entity is divulging the mysteries of sacred geometry or reincarnation or galactic hierarchy, you should stop and ask why the being is telling you these things.
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Corrected more quotes from...
Is It an Entity or Your Imagination?
How to tell the difference
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The fact is, even when you’re pretty sure there’s an entity reaching out, it’s still difficult to know what’s you and what’s them. Because of the mode of how this operates, lines can blur. You’re in physical land, and non-physical entities are not. That means that, in order to connect with you, they must first pass through the part of you that is non-physical—your mind, your spirit, your energy.
In doing so, they pick up residue and they take on aspects of your own psychology. Some of that residue is ancient and unavoidable, like archetypes. Some of it is personal and comes from our own mental perspectives and assumptions.
Determining if there’s an actual entity is only the first challenge. After that, you’ve gotta listen. Don’t accept or reject right away.
The first questions people want to ask are: who are you; where are you from; what do you want to tell me?
This is actually not where I start. For one, I think there are multitudes of entities out there. Many of them will simply select a name out of our mythology, depending on how they want you to perceive them. Where they are from… can we even conceptualize that? And asking what they want to say is too close to taking it at face value. You don’t want to accept a narrative until you know the agenda.
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Just a quick note. VanDenEng is speaking from a different culture than that of Western Magic.
Wherever she writes the word "ET" or "alien" a more accurate word would be "daimon." See Patrick Harpur's book Daimonic Reality for more details.
I don' do aliens, so it took me a long time to read this book. Jacques Vallee’s 1969 book Passport to Magonia is one of the most influential works in the history of UFO studies. It marked a radical departure from the earlier watches-too-many-scifi-movies "Nuts and Bolts" theory (that UFOs are literally physical spaceships from other planets pileted by literally phsical aliens) and instead proposed that the phenomenon is a modern manifestation of ancient folklore. "Daimons" in the ealier language .
Vallee suggest, and I agree, modern UFO encounters are indistinguishable from historical accounts of fairies, elves, demons, and angels. He argues that while the interpretation of the phenomenon changes based on the culture and technology of the time (remember, the Story shapes why you experience, so choose a good one) , the underlying reality remains the same.
Almost nobody takes the idea they are literally little green men from Mars any more. That idea was popular back in the 1950's. Except a few moon-brained people with ties to military intelligence and the military-industrial complex, who favor the physical Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH) because "physical threats" justify big physical budgets. Your tax dollars at work, folks.
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