A personal theory on human spirituality, the universe, and the gods

[alanford]

Hello everyone,

I wanted to share a personal theory and hear your thoughts on it, this might also be more common belief then I realize, but I haven’t come across anyone talking about it before. I’d also love to hear other perspectives if anyone is interested

I do not know why this universe exists—if it was even purposefully created by any beings at all. But I strongly believe that its creation had nothing to do with us. I think humanity is more or less a coincidence. Earth was formed around 4.5 billion years ago, which is about 9 billion years after the Big Bang. Since then, life on this planet has gone through countless stages and eras (like the Paleozoic, Mesozoic, and Permian), filled with species that came and went long before humans arrived.

To me, it doesn't make sense that some divine force would wait over 13 billion years just for humans to appear—especially considering that there are an estimated 2 trillion galaxies in the observable universe.

What I do believe is that, at some point, certain gods or spiritual entities may have noticed that humans possess a unique spiritual potential or consciousness. Perhaps 50 or so thousand years ago, they began communicating through especially intuitive or "psychic" individuals, leading to the formation of early tribal religions and later, major spiritual traditions.

I don’t fully understand why they’d do this—maybe they benefit from human gratitude or worship energetically, or maybe they simply want to help guide us. Because of this, I tend to think that most deities from various traditions—Hindu, Pagan, Shinto etc.—are “real” in some way, perhaps as different entities interacting with different cultures across time.

However, I don't believe in a single, all-powerful god that created everything. The idea of countless universes, dimensions, and timelines—potentially with different laws of physics—makes it hard for me to believe there's one ultimate source behind it all. It feels more like a vast, complex reality than a unified intentional plan.

Do you think I’m more right than wrong or vice versa? What are your own theories?

 

[Anziel_Merkaba]

My current theory is that reality is just a collective illusion that grows as we learn about it. The idea is that in the beginning everything was formless and as things formed laws were created to give order to the chaos, and as we discover more about the world the more laws retroactively come into existence.

Basically, laws retroactively have always existed from when we seek to find them, and before the laws were created the world was less rigid, and newer laws override older laws. Coincidentally, with the world becoming more rigid with more laws, magic has become lesser because it works within the gaps between laws. Before we discovered quantum mechanics we worked under the framework of general relativity, and before that was Newtonian physics, and before that was the various philosophers of different ages, and before that was the untamed chaos of a world with only a skeleton of the framework of laws we currently have.

I don't know if the laws will retroactively cease to exist if there was no longer anyone who knew about them or any writings about them. It all started as formlessness, so would it not return to formlessness in the end?

 

[MidnightProphet]

There was, at a point in history, an initial impulse which put all things into motion.

The rest, with all due respect, has nothing to do with magic except for that the possibility for another reality can exist. We can use this to our benefit, but only if we cease from all other vain contemplation.

 

[alanford]

My current theory is that reality is just a collective illusion that grows as we learn about it. The idea is that in the beginning everything was formless and as things formed laws were created to give order to the chaos, and as we discover more about the world the more laws retroactively come into existence.

Basically, laws retroactively have always existed from when we seek to find them, and before the laws were created the world was less rigid, and newer laws override older laws. Coincidentally, with the world becoming more rigid with more laws, magic has become lesser because it works within the gaps between laws. Before we discovered quantum mechanics we worked under the framework of general relativity, and before that was Newtonian physics, and before that was the various philosophers of different ages, and before that was the untamed chaos of a world with only a skeleton of the framework of laws we currently have.

I don't know if the laws will retroactively cease to exist if there was no longer anyone who knew about them or any writings about them. It all started as formlessness, so would it not return to formlessness in the end?

Thats very interesting, it makes sense in a lot of ways.

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There was, at a point in history, an initial impulse which put all things into motion.

The rest, with all due respect, has nothing to do with magic except for that the possibility for another reality can exist. We can use this to our benefit, but only if we cease from all other vain contemplation.

You are right, I should have posted this under the philosophy thread because this has very little to do with magic

 

[MidnightProphet]

Thats very interesting, it makes sense in a lot of ways.

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You are right, I should have posted this under the philosophy thread because this has very little to do with magic

Not at all, not at all. What I meant to convey was that regardless of its trueness or falseness it has no impact on our ability to bring about a different reality in our own sphere.