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Beginner's Decision Paralysis

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Hello everyone,

I'm starting this thread because I'm truly stumped, and I know I'm not the only one who's experienced this. I have read countless grimoires, occult books, etc. with the intent of getting started in some sort of spiritual practice (in no way is this me saying that I know it all or am a expert in anything, quite the opposite is true). I guess I could say that my main objectives would be to develop a solid magical/spiritual foundation and one day perform a successful evocation of a spirit and continue the practice. Suffice to say, I have goals in place. My biggest stumbling block is finding a starting point that is relevant to those goals and provides some sense of a linear path to becoming a magician on my own terms and time without joining a lodge or order of some sort. I feel like there are so many different ways to skin the cat, and I understand that this is ultimately a decision and step forward that only I can make. With that in mind, I am always getting overwhelmed with decision paralysis on picking a tradition or system and sticking with it. So many times I have read and heard that there is a mountain of preliminary work that needs to be done (inner work) before tackling something like what you'd find in the classic grimoires, and it leaves me at this massive fork in the road with potential starting points that look and sound "correct", but then something in the back of my head convinces me otherwise and to keep on reading more books or whatever I can get my hands on in an attempt to find something that sounds "more correct" or "feels right" even though I have no idea what "correct" even means (sorry for the run-on sentence here) and ultimately, no real work gets done. I am glued to the armchair and I really wish I wasn't. If anyone's willing to share, I'd like to know what your starting points were and how you worked your way up to working with spirits, communicating with them, etc. or about any tradition/system that you've worked for however long and what you did to get there. For me, I think it ultimately comes down to a confidence issue. I'm always second guessing myself and the water I'm always trying to dip my foot into but can never fully immerse myself in.
Please note, I am not asking anyone to make a decision for me. I just want to hear about your experiences as a beginner and if you faced the same obstacles as I am now and how you remained on course. What systems or traditions worked for you and why? What recommendations do you have for beginners in general? What are some things to embrace or avoid? Whatever information you think is relevant, I'd be forever grateful to read. Thanks in advance.

Second note: Apologies if there is a thread or multiple threads already made here that covers this topic. I'm brand new here, still finding my way around the neighborhood.
 

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Yeah, most everyone goes through what you're talking about. And most of us make false starts, which is an unfortunate turn of phrase. A path you decide not to follow is not therefore time wasted. It's like dating around before you find someone permanent. You could ask yourself a few questions like where you stand on "normie" religions. (Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim &c.) Or do you have a grudge against or aversion to such creeds? Is there any mythology that grabs you? Nordic, Egyptian, Ancient Greece, and so on? What's your notion of ideal afterlife, if any? Merging with or serving Heaven? Continued existence of refined ego? Where do you live---do you have access to other practitioners?

Personally, I think any of the several "traditions" connected with the Temple of Set are a good place to start, and maybe to stay. No, I'm not a member and I'm not pimping. But they have a well articulated take on the cosmos and their better representatives---Michael Aquino, Stephen Flowers, Toby Chappell, Michael Webb (to a degree, this last) all have first rate magick chops and most solid academic credentials. I wandered around elsewhere and presently work in traditions other than these. But they're a sound place to begin. Far more serious than trendy.
 

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Hello @St. Stephen ,

After reading your post I am asking myself one question: "What do you want? Be specific."

I guess I could say that my main objectives would be to develop a solid magical/spiritual foundation and one day perform a successful evocation of a spirit and continue the practice.

This, imo, is fertile ground for indecision. It's too general. What are your specific goals? What sort of spirit, specifically? Once the Spirit is evoked, then what? What comes next? You'll ask it a question? What's the question? You'll ask it a favor? What's the favor? You're making a pact? For what purpose?

Please note, I am not asking anyone to make a decision for me.

Good.

I just want to hear about your experiences as a beginner

Sure. Looking back on my life I've always been a "big thinker". Even as a child I was always asking big, often silly, questions. I can't help it. I love questions, puzzles, riddles, and jokes. My parents had a love-hate relationship with my curiosity. On the other hand, I was trouble with a capital 'T' in school. My teachers had a hate-hate relationship with me and my questioning. It was like that from grade-school all the way thru to university. Mostly because I wouldn't "let it go" when the teacher would dismiss my questioning, and, they quickly learned, that I cared more for the questions than receiving their boring and incomplete answers.

When I was young, Saturday morning cartoons were a "thing". I have no clue what young people do on Saturday mornings now. When my daughter was young, we had a collection of Barbie CGI movies that she liked. My son, when he, was small liked Teen-Titans-Go. But it wasn't the same as "Saturday morning cartoons". Yes, yes, there's that typical grandpa voice welling up inside of me, waxing nostalgic: "The cartoons just aren't as good as they used to be. Nothing's as good anymore. The food is bland. The air is stinky. The music is too loud. The kids are wild. Look at those short-shorts, no respect, no respect. Remember the good ole-days?" But that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about "the hunt". Kids these days... { trying on my Grandpa-voice } Kids these days... don't know how to hunt. They wouldn't even know how to begin. God forbid there's a crisis, food distribution disruption, a bridge collapses, or a collection of bridges, terrorism, earthquakes... in that scenario? Kids these days, what are they going to do? If the popularity and interest in vampirism is any sort of metric, It's not as far fetched as it may seem? Those kiddos are going to start eating themselves and their friends out of a toxic combo of laziness and incompetent ( ignorant ) necessity.

For me, when I was a kid, I stalked those cartoons. I laid in wait for them. I woke early, ridiculously early. So I would be the first of the three of us on the couch. I had the TV on. The channel chosen. No one was changing it. Not without a fight. "I was here first. I was here first. You know the rules. I get to chose the first show." The shows that were on at 2 AM, are pretty weird. But. I didn't care. I was going to watch: "Dungeons and Dragons" the cartoon. That was what mattered. I was too young to read a clock, or something, because I don't remember when the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon broadcast was scheduled, on air. Yes, this was before cable, and Internet. It was even before VCRs, or Tivo, if anyone remembers that. 1982? 1981?

If I missed the beginning of the show it was tragic. Missing any of it, of course, was sad, but missing the beginning was the worst. The intro was my absolute favorite part. It very briefly retold the story of the first episode where the group of friends were at the carnival. There was a ride there, the "Dungeons and Dragons" ride. It was a sort of carnie-roller-coaster with a blue-grey castle as the dominant form, with a dragon's mouth? If I recall. On the the tracks? Maybe? In the cartoon intro, the friends are walking, then one of them calls out. ( was it Bobbie? ) "Look! it's a Dungeons and Dragons ride!! Let's go!" And the friends pile on, squeeze into the roller-coaster-car, and they swoop off along the tracks. Faux goblins and trolls and dragons pop-up and dash away from them as the scoot along the tracks. The friends are cheering having a nice time. Then, the track begins the warp. The walls of the ride lose their form. The colors blend, and start to spin. The friends have no clue what's happening to them. And plop, plop, plop thud. If I remember they fall to the ground in a world that is not their own. Wearing clothes, and carrying weapons that they've never seen before. They were no longer only friends, they had been transformed both individually and as a collective. They were a team, comrades, with a problem. "Where are we? How do we get home?" And that's the intro.

Each of the characters were fun. They all had their own personality, flaws, talents, etc. Each of them had acquired, somehow, magically, tools of the trade, rare, very rare, in the form of a weapon or armor to aid them in their adventures as the seek a way back home. These weapons aligned in harmony with each of the individual's personal attributes. My favorites: Bobbie, the smallest, the youngest, but, surprisingly the strongest. He was the "Barbarian", with a club of quaking. My next favorite, was a lovely dark-skinned acrobat with a quarterstaff that could bridge any gap. Third in line, in descending order of preference? Bobbie's sister, the thief, with the cloak of invisibility. There was also the leader. Rick? I think that was his name. Handsome, mature, blond. The ranger, with a bow of bolts ( of lightning ). Lastly, I also, strangely really liked the befuddled cavalier, but I didn't understand why. He was a comic relief character. Clumsy. Complaining. Never doing what he should. He had a shield. We, the viewers, and the adventurers, knew it was magic, knew that like all the other legendary equipment which they carried, this shield was being pursued by dark forces, just as much as the other weapons and armor, but, no one could figure out how to use it. It was just a shield, until... it wasn't. And the shield often saved the day: the unexpected lynch pin, in a plan, that no one knew, except for the writing team who had put together the plot.

These early morning vicarious adventures were all I looked forward to, all week long. Bobbie. That was me. I'm the youngest. I'm the bravest. And I love fun, and never quit. But I also loved that dark exotic queen. Too young to feel any real stirrings, but, I liked her even though she seemed to be an after thought in the writing team's story-telling. ( Maybe that's why I liked her, in addition to what would develop later into attraction ). Then came Bobbie's sister in the pecking order of my preferences. She was very important in the story telling, because, Bobbie needs her. She's his guardian angel with that cloak. He is free to charge, and be reckless, and wild, why? Cause big sister's watching over him and will rescue him. Then, of course the leader. Not because I liked him, but because the others liked him. And he always seemed to choose wisely and react appropriately. That's what I dreamed for, for myself. In my early immature childish psyche, that leader, Rick?, was everything I wasn't and represented everything my caregivers and authority figures wanted of me, wanted me to be, but I couldn't do, and would always fail if I tried to adopt those qualities. Finally, the clutz. My least favorite, but also captivating. That one, with the mysterious shield, he represented the qualities I hate about myself. That's valuable info as well.

The rest of the cartoons which came on in the morning were not to my liking. Not nearly as much as Dungeons and Dragons, but there was one. Much later. If I wanted to watch it, I needed a plan. I needed to be sneaky. Sibling rivalry. We competed with each other for "TV Time" choosing what to watch. Remember, no internet. No phones. No tablets. No other screens. We had A TV. Singular. We had to share. The shows were broadcast. There was no "Oh, I'll just watch it later on YouTube." If you missed it, you missed it. And maybe you'd never see it for your entire life. So. The plan. I wake up early. I get the first spot on the couch. I get to choose Dungeons and Dragons. Then, I let my older brother and sister choose everything else, as long as I get to watch the other show, with my other favorite adventurers.




I realize this whimsical gazing back in time, may not seem very productive in answering your question. But, it's key. For you. The remedy you seek is there. It's the first rule, the rule so many forget. Everyone seens to know Crowley's doctrine: "Will is the entirety of the law, assuming law exists..." It's shakespeare. Crowley was ... borrowing. "This above all: to thine own self be true." But, this is not the first law. It's the "only" law. There's another law which comes first. Crowley's law depends on it: "Know yourself." That's the first law. Everything flows from it.

So, the question I'm asking you, right now, @St. Stephen: Do you know yourself? Who are you? What excites you? What discourages you? In an ideal world, what is your profession? How do you spend your time? In an ideal world, what would you avoid? What things would you postpone? When do you procrastinate? When do feel compelled to act so strongly, that if you don't your whole world is collapsing? KNowing how to start and where to start on the exploration beyond what is conventionally referred to as "here-and-now" requires answers to these questions. The best place to look for answers is in your own heart. Recall the stories of your youth which you love, replay them in the theater of your mind's eye. Pay attention to your heart. What is it doing, when does it react? Those are the clues you need to determine who you are as an individual among all the rest of us. Movies, books, comic books are great for this sort of inward journeying. Music. Also useful but less specific.

Once you know what you want, then, sure, I can find a path to get you there. For me? It happened by accident, coincidences, assuming such a thing exists. A buddy calls me over to his cube:

"Hey Man, you gotta see this."

"OK, show me."

"You're Jewish, right?"

"yeah, but don't make me prove it."

"OK. Check this guy out."

And I did. With gusto. On the screen, there was this guy, an ultra-orthodox dude, Black. White. Hat. Scraggily long beard. Skinny. Singing reggae on Late Night with David Letterman. And it was fantastic. My buddy says: "Yeah, he's awesome right?" My buddy's Christian, devout. I was mesmerized. Never seen anything like it. My first child, my daughter was on the way. My wife wanted to raise her with a religious education. I was against it. That meant, I was tasked with finding something that was amendable to my aversions. The timing was perfect. Kismet, divine providence, luck, fate, who cares? I certainly didn't. Why or how didn't matter. I was excited. I looked up the dude who was singing to me and my bud on the screen, and found out his community teaches Kabalah to anyone, weekly, for free. And that is the beginning of my own journey in earnest which is ongoing as we speak.

I'm brand new here, still finding my way around the neighborhood.

Well, I have no jurisdiction here, but, for what it's worth. { trying out my "teacher-voice" } You're forgiven. And don't do it again ( kidding :) )

~chuckles~

What recommendations do you have for beginners in general?

Forgive yourself for all the things that cannot be known about yourself and others. That's step 1. Begin with agnosticism. It cannot be known, and that is good. Mystery wonder, and awe, are the crucible for your craft, whatever it is. ( unless it's herbology ).\

Step 2: patience, timing is everything.

Step 3: Get to know yourself. Imagine yourself, in your mind's eye, doing stuff. Actions. Deeds. Be specific. Create a scene in your mind, and watch it play out where you are the star of the show. The hero, the villain, the lover, or the object of someone's affection. The innocent child who surprises everyone? The elder sage who knows the answers? As the story is playing in your mind, listen to your heart. Thake note when it reacts strongly. These are the aspects of your self which are significant. Choosing anything is simply a matter of putting things is order of significance. Once that is established firmly in the mind. Making any choice is easy, quick, and often, rewarding.

Step 4: Write out a goal on paper. Keep that paper. Look at it, re-read it monthly as you go. On your journey, you may get lost, and most do. Lacking that little paper will mean, possibly, you'll end up somewhere completely estranged from your original stated desires. Sometimes this is good, sometimes not. But in the middle of the process, without that paper, it will be very difficult to recall what you intended when you began journeying in the first place. Example: If you're looking for love, and you find loneliness, it's good to remind oneself not to quit. I have dear friend who teaches: "If you're on a train, and you're going thru hell. Don't get off the train. Keep going, unless, hell is what you're looking for." Most people, when they're on a train going thru hell, they're too busy trying to stay out of trouble to accurately recall specific details of their aspirations UNLESS they wrote it down.

And this is why so many of us are Journaling. It's not for our own enjoyment, though some probably do, I don't. It's practical. It's map. It's useful. Because so many are out there who just want to feed themselves on whatever is closest and easiest for them to snatch. That means, you're on the menu, bro. It's good to stay on track and not get distracted by the alluring siren song that seems to surround us all.

but then something in the back of my head convinces me

We call that the Yetzer-Hara in my religion. It's an oppositional motive, an inner influencing force in the psyche.

May I ask? How does it convince you? What are the reasons it is giving which are compelling?
 

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Don't spend in the armchair too long. I used to be an armchair mystic/magician until about a year ago, and now that I've got a solid daily practice, everything I've read and am still reading looks very different indeed, so much so that all those ideas about magic I used to harbour now impede my actual progress sometimes. For example, I used to get all excited about Tibetan Buddhism and its methods but now that I'm actually meditating everyday, I see that all my preconceptions were wrong, that everything is both harder and completely different. Or take rituals: as an armchair magician, all those long incantations are often the most boring part of a book but putting them in practice, learning them by heart and making them come to life by putting all your heart and emotions in them is another matter - at first you struggle with learning them by heart, then with the embarassment of thus addressing invisible beings you don't even half believe in if you're honest, then with making the words ring true and sincere and putting some actual feeling and evocative power into them. Currently I can't even imagine handling any implements like censers or pentacles or whatnot while I'm still occupied with the ritual's script; most likely I'd knock over a candle or forget an important step of the whole process, and that are precisely the practical difficulties you don't even think about while still in the armchair.

Say you're reading about this or that sage who spent years meditating in an icy cave until he finally reached enlightment. When you're in the armchair, it's just a mildly entertaining story but that story will look (and above feel) very different after you actually first sat down for five minutes or so watching your breath and desperately (= counter-productive!) trying to think of nothing. In fact, meditation is where I would start. Think of it: meditation is not religion-dependent. You don't have to believe in God or gods, holy books (and their orthodox interpretation), become a monk or join an order, you don't even have to adopt a specific belief system. At our stage of development, the only books on meditation that make sense are primers, while reading about the Tibetan Anuttara Yoga Tantra, for example, is just a distraction. I'd specifically recommend Culadasa's The Mind Illuminated and its Practice Guide, it's simple, down-to-earth and yet profound (and if you go hunting for alternative meditation guides, of which there are thousand, you're most likely just procrastinating).

The stereotypical advice to beginners on Reddit is "Meditate and do the LBRP", and there's a reason for this: meditation I've already discussed but the
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will give you the feel of an actual ritual and test your powers of imagination and visualization. Forget about mystical 'energies' (come to think of it, also forget about the 'banishing' part), 'aura cleansing' or any of those alleged properties other people ascribe to it and which you may be unable to feel once you actually start drawing embarrassingly wonky pentagrams in the air. And don't go off researching that ritual either - you can spend whole hours watching youtube videos on the topic, and we've even got a whole book on the LBRP in our Library. People squabble endlessly about in which direction to start, whether to use an athame (hint: most people including me don't bother), if Pagan gods can be used instead of archangels, etc. If decision paralysis is your problem, just arbitrarily choose to follow the instructions here and be done with it once and for all.

Another recommendation would be choosing an Orphic or Homeric hymn, any kind of impressive poetry and perform it every day. If you're feeling ambitious, try the Bornless One in the version of Jason Miller's "Real Sorcery" (p. 84). It can be a bitch to learn by heart because of all those 'barbarous name' (I initially left them out and only added them once I was familiar with the 'regular' text). Play with intonations, gestures, and above all say those words like you actually mean them. Imagine you're a public speaker or an actor, that will give you an idea of the obstacles you may encounter.

The overarching strategy recommended here is to forstall the panic books like Franz Bardon's "Initiation into Hermetics" engender where you despair because you get the feeling that you have years of boring groundwork ahead of you before you can actually do any magic. The "Meditate and do the LBRP" approach means that you're doing magic from day one. Belief systems don't matter, just do the LBRP whether you believe in the Abrahamic god or not, perform the Bornless One whether Crowley said this about it and scholars that. Just practice, you can always return to your books afterwards, and I can promise you even now that you'll understand them much, much better.
 

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I have read countless grimoires, occult books, etc. with the intent of getting started
Hi. My advice would be to work your way through a book that is set up as a course / lessons. I personally like Donald Michael Kraig's Modern Magick, because its purpose is to introduce you to a lot of topics and to start working with them from the first day. If you are reading grimoires I think this material will be a good match
 

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Yeah, most everyone goes through what you're talking about. And most of us make false starts, which is an unfortunate turn of phrase. A path you decide not to follow is not therefore time wasted. It's like dating around before you find someone permanent. You could ask yourself a few questions like where you stand on "normie" religions. (Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim &c.) Or do you have a grudge against or aversion to such creeds? Is there any mythology that grabs you? Nordic, Egyptian, Ancient Greece, and so on? What's your notion of ideal afterlife, if any? Merging with or serving Heaven? Continued existence of refined ego? Where do you live---do you have access to other practitioners?

Personally, I think any of the several "traditions" connected with the Temple of Set are a good place to start, and maybe to stay. No, I'm not a member and I'm not pimping. But they have a well articulated take on the cosmos and their better representatives---Michael Aquino, Stephen Flowers, Toby Chappell, Michael Webb (to a degree, this last) all have first rate magick chops and most solid academic credentials. I wandered around elsewhere and presently work in traditions other than these. But they're a sound place to begin. Far more serious than trendy.
To answer those questions out loud -
1. I am not a fan of organized religion, or at least I haven't found one that totally resonates with my world view. I think that life and divinity and the universe is much too complicated to just frame into one box/line of thinking and claiming "this is the way it is, nothing else." However, I think that the more mystical aspects of some Christian and particularly Jewish stuff really stand out and DO resonate (haven't looked into Islam or the eastern religions much at all, but will eventually make my way around.) I've had plenty of experience attending protestant christian services (not really by my own choice) I just couldn't buy into the structure of pulling my soul out of the closet every Sunday for an hour and a half for a feel-good get together just to put it right back once I got home. I wanted something much more interactive and more on my own terms, and thats where this journey really began.

2. Mythology wise, this one is really hard to answer because I am a fan of history and the deeper I dig the more there seems to be truths about each mythology and weird, subtle connections between them. Although maybe not necessarily "mythology", I believe that there are spirits everywhere and that there is a structure and hierarchy to them, and that they are all bits and pieces of consciousness vibrating at their own unique frequencies that ultimately make up a creator God or being that is on a quest to experience and know itself. With that, I think there are truths to each mythological structure and that these Gods and spiritual beings existed somewhere at some time and that we humans interacted with them. I'm not even sure what type of stance this is or what to call it. Let me put it this way - If you took the worldview presented by Itzhak Bentov in his book "Stalking The Wild Pendulum: On the Mechanics of Consciousness" and combined it with the spiritual structure presented in the classical Grimoires with demons, angels, archangels, etc, that's where I'm at. Hopefully that makes some type of sense.
3. An ideal afterlife would be a chance to reflect on what was accomplished and done in this current life or incarnation, and an opportunity to evolve as a conscious being into something more. I guess merging with heaven would be ideal to answer that directly.

3. I live in Okinawa. New to the island, for now I have no access to any practitioners. Many of the locals here practice Shintoism or Protestant Christianity. There's a Buddhist population here too and a mixture of animist types as well. Very interesting, still trying to figure out how to learn more about these traditions in person and observe there practices if given the opportunity.

I will look into the Temple of Set. Sounds very interesting. I appreciate the recommendation!
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Hello @St. Stephen ,

After reading your post I am asking myself one question: "What do you want? Be specific."



This, imo, is fertile ground for indecision. It's too general. What are your specific goals? What sort of spirit, specifically? Once the Spirit is evoked, then what? What comes next? You'll ask it a question? What's the question? You'll ask it a favor? What's the favor? You're making a pact? For what purpose?



Good.



Sure. Looking back on my life I've always been a "big thinker". Even as a child I was always asking big, often silly, questions. I can't help it. I love questions, puzzles, riddles, and jokes. My parents had a love-hate relationship with my curiosity. On the other hand, I was trouble with a capital 'T' in school. My teachers had a hate-hate relationship with me and my questioning. It was like that from grade-school all the way thru to university. Mostly because I wouldn't "let it go" when the teacher would dismiss my questioning, and, they quickly learned, that I cared more for the questions than receiving their boring and incomplete answers.

When I was young, Saturday morning cartoons were a "thing". I have no clue what young people do on Saturday mornings now. When my daughter was young, we had a collection of Barbie CGI movies that she liked. My son, when he, was small liked Teen-Titans-Go. But it wasn't the same as "Saturday morning cartoons". Yes, yes, there's that typical grandpa voice welling up inside of me, waxing nostalgic: "The cartoons just aren't as good as they used to be. Nothing's as good anymore. The food is bland. The air is stinky. The music is too loud. The kids are wild. Look at those short-shorts, no respect, no respect. Remember the good ole-days?" But that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about "the hunt". Kids these days... { trying on my Grandpa-voice } Kids these days... don't know how to hunt. They wouldn't even know how to begin. God forbid there's a crisis, food distribution disruption, a bridge collapses, or a collection of bridges, terrorism, earthquakes... in that scenario? Kids these days, what are they going to do? If the popularity and interest in vampirism is any sort of metric, It's not as far fetched as it may seem? Those kiddos are going to start eating themselves and their friends out of a toxic combo of laziness and incompetent ( ignorant ) necessity.

For me, when I was a kid, I stalked those cartoons. I laid in wait for them. I woke early, ridiculously early. So I would be the first of the three of us on the couch. I had the TV on. The channel chosen. No one was changing it. Not without a fight. "I was here first. I was here first. You know the rules. I get to chose the first show." The shows that were on at 2 AM, are pretty weird. But. I didn't care. I was going to watch: "Dungeons and Dragons" the cartoon. That was what mattered. I was too young to read a clock, or something, because I don't remember when the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon broadcast was scheduled, on air. Yes, this was before cable, and Internet. It was even before VCRs, or Tivo, if anyone remembers that. 1982? 1981?

If I missed the beginning of the show it was tragic. Missing any of it, of course, was sad, but missing the beginning was the worst. The intro was my absolute favorite part. It very briefly retold the story of the first episode where the group of friends were at the carnival. There was a ride there, the "Dungeons and Dragons" ride. It was a sort of carnie-roller-coaster with a blue-grey castle as the dominant form, with a dragon's mouth? If I recall. On the the tracks? Maybe? In the cartoon intro, the friends are walking, then one of them calls out. ( was it Bobbie? ) "Look! it's a Dungeons and Dragons ride!! Let's go!" And the friends pile on, squeeze into the roller-coaster-car, and they swoop off along the tracks. Faux goblins and trolls and dragons pop-up and dash away from them as the scoot along the tracks. The friends are cheering having a nice time. Then, the track begins the warp. The walls of the ride lose their form. The colors blend, and start to spin. The friends have no clue what's happening to them. And plop, plop, plop thud. If I remember they fall to the ground in a world that is not their own. Wearing clothes, and carrying weapons that they've never seen before. They were no longer only friends, they had been transformed both individually and as a collective. They were a team, comrades, with a problem. "Where are we? How do we get home?" And that's the intro.

Each of the characters were fun. They all had their own personality, flaws, talents, etc. Each of them had acquired, somehow, magically, tools of the trade, rare, very rare, in the form of a weapon or armor to aid them in their adventures as the seek a way back home. These weapons aligned in harmony with each of the individual's personal attributes. My favorites: Bobbie, the smallest, the youngest, but, surprisingly the strongest. He was the "Barbarian", with a club of quaking. My next favorite, was a lovely dark-skinned acrobat with a quarterstaff that could bridge any gap. Third in line, in descending order of preference? Bobbie's sister, the thief, with the cloak of invisibility. There was also the leader. Rick? I think that was his name. Handsome, mature, blond. The ranger, with a bow of bolts ( of lightning ). Lastly, I also, strangely really liked the befuddled cavalier, but I didn't understand why. He was a comic relief character. Clumsy. Complaining. Never doing what he should. He had a shield. We, the viewers, and the adventurers, knew it was magic, knew that like all the other legendary equipment which they carried, this shield was being pursued by dark forces, just as much as the other weapons and armor, but, no one could figure out how to use it. It was just a shield, until... it wasn't. And the shield often saved the day: the unexpected lynch pin, in a plan, that no one knew, except for the writing team who had put together the plot.

These early morning vicarious adventures were all I looked forward to, all week long. Bobbie. That was me. I'm the youngest. I'm the bravest. And I love fun, and never quit. But I also loved that dark exotic queen. Too young to feel any real stirrings, but, I liked her even though she seemed to be an after thought in the writing team's story-telling. ( Maybe that's why I liked her, in addition to what would develop later into attraction ). Then came Bobbie's sister in the pecking order of my preferences. She was very important in the story telling, because, Bobbie needs her. She's his guardian angel with that cloak. He is free to charge, and be reckless, and wild, why? Cause big sister's watching over him and will rescue him. Then, of course the leader. Not because I liked him, but because the others liked him. And he always seemed to choose wisely and react appropriately. That's what I dreamed for, for myself. In my early immature childish psyche, that leader, Rick?, was everything I wasn't and represented everything my caregivers and authority figures wanted of me, wanted me to be, but I couldn't do, and would always fail if I tried to adopt those qualities. Finally, the clutz. My least favorite, but also captivating. That one, with the mysterious shield, he represented the qualities I hate about myself. That's valuable info as well.

The rest of the cartoons which came on in the morning were not to my liking. Not nearly as much as Dungeons and Dragons, but there was one. Much later. If I wanted to watch it, I needed a plan. I needed to be sneaky. Sibling rivalry. We competed with each other for "TV Time" choosing what to watch. Remember, no internet. No phones. No tablets. No other screens. We had A TV. Singular. We had to share. The shows were broadcast. There was no "Oh, I'll just watch it later on YouTube." If you missed it, you missed it. And maybe you'd never see it for your entire life. So. The plan. I wake up early. I get the first spot on the couch. I get to choose Dungeons and Dragons. Then, I let my older brother and sister choose everything else, as long as I get to watch the other show, with my other favorite adventurers.




I realize this whimsical gazing back in time, may not seem very productive in answering your question. But, it's key. For you. The remedy you seek is there. It's the first rule, the rule so many forget. Everyone seens to know Crowley's doctrine: "Will is the entirety of the law, assuming law exists..." It's shakespeare. Crowley was ... borrowing. "This above all: to thine own self be true." But, this is not the first law. It's the "only" law. There's another law which comes first. Crowley's law depends on it: "Know yourself." That's the first law. Everything flows from it.

So, the question I'm asking you, right now, @St. Stephen: Do you know yourself? Who are you? What excites you? What discourages you? In an ideal world, what is your profession? How do you spend your time? In an ideal world, what would you avoid? What things would you postpone? When do you procrastinate? When do feel compelled to act so strongly, that if you don't your whole world is collapsing? KNowing how to start and where to start on the exploration beyond what is conventionally referred to as "here-and-now" requires answers to these questions. The best place to look for answers is in your own heart. Recall the stories of your youth which you love, replay them in the theater of your mind's eye. Pay attention to your heart. What is it doing, when does it react? Those are the clues you need to determine who you are as an individual among all the rest of us. Movies, books, comic books are great for this sort of inward journeying. Music. Also useful but less specific.

Once you know what you want, then, sure, I can find a path to get you there. For me? It happened by accident, coincidences, assuming such a thing exists. A buddy calls me over to his cube:

"Hey Man, you gotta see this."

"OK, show me."

"You're Jewish, right?"

"yeah, but don't make me prove it."

"OK. Check this guy out."

And I did. With gusto. On the screen, there was this guy, an ultra-orthodox dude, Black. White. Hat. Scraggily long beard. Skinny. Singing reggae on Late Night with David Letterman. And it was fantastic. My buddy says: "Yeah, he's awesome right?" My buddy's Christian, devout. I was mesmerized. Never seen anything like it. My first child, my daughter was on the way. My wife wanted to raise her with a religious education. I was against it. That meant, I was tasked with finding something that was amendable to my aversions. The timing was perfect. Kismet, divine providence, luck, fate, who cares? I certainly didn't. Why or how didn't matter. I was excited. I looked up the dude who was singing to me and my bud on the screen, and found out his community teaches Kabalah to anyone, weekly, for free. And that is the beginning of my own journey in earnest which is ongoing as we speak.



Well, I have no jurisdiction here, but, for what it's worth. { trying out my "teacher-voice" } You're forgiven. And don't do it again ( kidding :) )

~chuckles~



Forgive yourself for all the things that cannot be known about yourself and others. That's step 1. Begin with agnosticism. It cannot be known, and that is good. Mystery wonder, and awe, are the crucible for your craft, whatever it is. ( unless it's herbology ).\

Step 2: patience, timing is everything.

Step 3: Get to know yourself. Imagine yourself, in your mind's eye, doing stuff. Actions. Deeds. Be specific. Create a scene in your mind, and watch it play out where you are the star of the show. The hero, the villain, the lover, or the object of someone's affection. The innocent child who surprises everyone? The elder sage who knows the answers? As the story is playing in your mind, listen to your heart. Thake note when it reacts strongly. These are the aspects of your self which are significant. Choosing anything is simply a matter of putting things is order of significance. Once that is established firmly in the mind. Making any choice is easy, quick, and often, rewarding.

Step 4: Write out a goal on paper. Keep that paper. Look at it, re-read it monthly as you go. On your journey, you may get lost, and most do. Lacking that little paper will mean, possibly, you'll end up somewhere completely estranged from your original stated desires. Sometimes this is good, sometimes not. But in the middle of the process, without that paper, it will be very difficult to recall what you intended when you began journeying in the first place. Example: If you're looking for love, and you find loneliness, it's good to remind oneself not to quit. I have dear friend who teaches: "If you're on a train, and you're going thru hell. Don't get off the train. Keep going, unless, hell is what you're looking for." Most people, when they're on a train going thru hell, they're too busy trying to stay out of trouble to accurately recall specific details of their aspirations UNLESS they wrote it down.

And this is why so many of us are Journaling. It's not for our own enjoyment, though some probably do, I don't. It's practical. It's map. It's useful. Because so many are out there who just want to feed themselves on whatever is closest and easiest for them to snatch. That means, you're on the menu, bro. It's good to stay on track and not get distracted by the alluring siren song that seems to surround us all.



We call that the Yetzer-Hara in my religion. It's an oppositional motive, an inner influencing force in the psyche.

May I ask? How does it convince you? What are the reasons it is giving which are compelling?
First, I would just like to sincerely thank you for this reply. I'm truly befuddled and grateful for what is some of the best advice I've ever read online. Seriously, thank you for sharing your story and wisdom, that was impactful in many ways. I've definitely found a great community.

To answer your question at the end, I like to dive into things head first, full on, with big expectations for results. This has its obvious pitfalls but there have been plenty of occasions where this has also worked out pleasantly, albeit sometimes falling short on the desired results (but achieving them later). Magic is one of those things where if I could apply the same mentality, I would. However, unlike almost all of my other endeavors, Magic seems to be one of the few things where I feel as if I have to prepare everything and do everything perfectly right prior to commencing any real work. It's like an obsessive-compulsive phenomena mixed with fear, doubt, and uncertainty, and boy what a handicap this has been. But there's other factors that play into the FUD - questions like the following often arise - "How am I going to find the time for this while taking care of my wife and daughter?" "Where am I going to find the space to do this?" "How do I know what I'm doing wrong and if something does go wrong, how am I going to fix it?" "I don't know anyone who's even remotely interested in this kind of stuff, where do I find someone who knows what they're doing to help me or even participate?" It's just this ongoing internal battle or hump that I realize is only going to resolve itself by just doing the work - but it is oddly nerve-wracking. Another issue is maybe a subconscious desire to be "good" at this off the bat mixed with the fear of not being able to make any real progress is a reasonable amount of time and therefore losing interest, which has happened to me before and probably has for most people in one way shape or form. I deeply desire to be able to able to converse with a spirit and have that experience and gain insight into their world and peek beyond the veil - I realize that it is a broad goal and that it needs some narrowing down. I hope this gives you q better understanding of where I'm at. Again, thank you for taking the time to provide your insight!
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Don't spend in the armchair too long. I used to be an armchair mystic/magician until about a year ago, and now that I've got a solid daily practice, everything I've read and am still reading looks very different indeed, so much so that all those ideas about magic I used to harbour now impede my actual progress sometimes. For example, I used to get all excited about Tibetan Buddhism and its methods but now that I'm actually meditating everyday, I see that all my preconceptions were wrong, that everything is both harder and completely different. Or take rituals: as an armchair magician, all those long incantations are often the most boring part of a book but putting them in practice, learning them by heart and making them come to life by putting all your heart and emotions in them is another matter - at first you struggle with learning them by heart, then with the embarassment of thus addressing invisible beings you don't even half believe in if you're honest, then with making the words ring true and sincere and putting some actual feeling and evocative power into them. Currently I can't even imagine handling any implements like censers or pentacles or whatnot while I'm still occupied with the ritual's script; most likely I'd knock over a candle or forget an important step of the whole process, and that are precisely the practical difficulties you don't even think about while still in the armchair.

Say you're reading about this or that sage who spent years meditating in an icy cave until he finally reached enlightment. When you're in the armchair, it's just a mildly entertaining story but that story will look (and above feel) very different after you actually first sat down for five minutes or so watching your breath and desperately (= counter-productive!) trying to think of nothing. In fact, meditation is where I would start. Think of it: meditation is not religion-dependent. You don't have to believe in God or gods, holy books (and their orthodox interpretation), become a monk or join an order, you don't even have to adopt a specific belief system. At our stage of development, the only books on meditation that make sense are primers, while reading about the Tibetan Anuttara Yoga Tantra, for example, is just a distraction. I'd specifically recommend Culadasa's The Mind Illuminated and its Practice Guide, it's simple, down-to-earth and yet profound (and if you go hunting for alternative meditation guides, of which there are thousand, you're most likely just procrastinating).

The stereotypical advice to beginners on Reddit is "Meditate and do the LBRP", and there's a reason for this: meditation I've already discussed but the
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will give you the feel of an actual ritual and test your powers of imagination and visualization. Forget about mystical 'energies' (come to think of it, also forget about the 'banishing' part), 'aura cleansing' or any of those alleged properties other people ascribe to it and which you may be unable to feel once you actually start drawing embarrassingly wonky pentagrams in the air. And don't go off researching that ritual either - you can spend whole hours watching youtube videos on the topic, and we've even got a whole book on the LBRP in our Library. People squabble endlessly about in which direction to start, whether to use an athame (hint: most people including me don't bother), if Pagan gods can be used instead of archangels, etc. If decision paralysis is your problem, just arbitrarily choose to follow the instructions here and be done with it once and for all.

Another recommendation would be choosing an Orphic or Homeric hymn, any kind of impressive poetry and perform it every day. If you're feeling ambitious, try the Bornless One in the version of Jason Miller's "Real Sorcery" (p. 84). It can be a bitch to learn by heart because of all those 'barbarous name' (I initially left them out and only added them once I was familiar with the 'regular' text). Play with intonations, gestures, and above all say those words like you actually mean them. Imagine you're a public speaker or an actor, that will give you an idea of the obstacles you may encounter.

The overarching strategy recommended here is to forstall the panic books like Franz Bardon's "Initiation into Hermetics" engender where you despair because you get the feeling that you have years of boring groundwork ahead of you before you can actually do any magic. The "Meditate and do the LBRP" approach means that you're doing magic from day one. Belief systems don't matter, just do the LBRP whether you believe in the Abrahamic god or not, perform the Bornless One whether Crowley said this about it and scholars that. Just practice, you can always return to your books afterwards, and I can promise you even now that you'll understand them much, much better.
I go through odd periods of meditation where I'll do it consistently for a few days and then get distracted by God knows what and then the idea gets shelved. I think that's another big discouraging mental factor is that my consistency is terrible, something I realize only I can fix. I highly appreciate the book recommendation and will give that a try. I think some structure could be key. I'll try my hand at the LBRP. I've done it before, but it was sloppy. I understand the point you're illuminating with just doing it regardless of worldview but just for the sake of understanding a ritual structure and getting reps and sets in with memorization and action. I get too caught up with trying to do it correctly, expecting a big result, and then the discouragement following the lack of one. I'm gonna adjust my attitude a bit and try and put some real work into it. I never really put much thought into rehearsals until now. Thank you for your reply!
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Hi. My advice would be to work your way through a book that is set up as a course / lessons. I personally like Donald Michael Kraig's Modern Magick, because its purpose is to introduce you to a lot of topics and to start working with them from the first day. If you are reading grimoires I think this material will be a good match
I'll give that a shot! Thank you!
 
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