[Help] Charging objects with energy for use in spells.

[marknoo]

I can pore breath and feel it. I can visualize and feel it come in and out of my feet and head and circulate around my body and all that stuff.

But

I am terrible at charging a candle or some other object. its like I don't think it is doing anything or something. Somehow I can't get it to feel right, I don't believe it is happening.

Anyway
What if I don't do it that way. Or what if I can't

Could I make a mantra and say it 108 to the object and think of it as charged? (like a chaos magick, mixed up letters from intent statement type mantra)

Could I tell the object what I want and then read a Psalm to it 3 times, or 9 times, or whatever seems appropriate for the size of the job?

Could I read Psalm 119 to the object nightly for 3 nights or 7 nights or whatever and think of it as charged?

Would this work?

I guess I need some kind of physical proof that something happened.

Example:
Lets say I just wanted some general, all around goodness in my house. Could I read Psalm 119 to a candle for 7 days and then burn it when my in-laws leave to restore health and wholesomeness to the house. (I don't have in-laws but I wanted to give you something concrete to work with)
Would I just tell the candle what I want from it, then read it the Psalm and after the appointed number of days, use the candle to restore "goodness" to the house?

What if I didn't have 7 days. Could I read Psalm 119 to the same candle 7 times in one day, would that work.

 

[Yazata]

think of it as charged

This is what matters. Not if you do it according to how someone else says they do it. Psalms, prayers, visualisation whatever you can put your intent into.

I need some kind of physical proof that something happened.

Not going to happen. Any change that you might see / feel is not physical.

Edit:
And don't double post please

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

If that way doesn't work with you, you need to pull the "psychodrama" card that make you KNOW your tool is charged.

Your imagination is the key.

You can for intense charge the candle and, while your hold it, imagine it's growing in size, or multiplying.

If you charge a crystal, try to see it becoming large as a car, or alive, moving around.

You can also try to communicate with it, a more animistic approach.

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I love seeing that i use as its energy form.

If i use a candle, i could it in my hand and i see it's flame coming INTO me. While here, i """"infuse""""" the flamme with my intent. I see it changing color, changing sensation, while thinking of the intent.

If it's health, i see the flame making my health better and better. If it's banishing i see it burning down any impurities.

I then see the flame going back to the candle. And i state something like "this is what i need you to do" or "as within, so without."

 

[marknoo]

Thank you. (sorry on the double post, I messed up and fixed it improperly)

Now I have a new plan of attack, maybe while I am reading/talking to the object I can implement some of OberonFromTheHills ideas on visualization. This gives me a way to get started that includes something that I know works.

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

Thank you. (sorry on the double post, I messed up and fixed it improperly)

Now I have a new plan of attack, maybe while I am reading/talking to the object I can implement some of OberonFromTheHills ideas on visualization. This gives me a way to get started that includes something that I know works.

From my experience, magick works better when you manage to properly emerge yourself in the experience and make it the more realistic you can. Triggering all your senses will programm the spell to be the more accurate to your intent.

 

[Jadugar]

All of those rites could work, and others touched on the questions directly, so I'll just throw out that I also had a difficult time because, whatever I did, none of it "felt right." But do you know what "feels right" feels like? How could you if you've never/rarely felt it, when it can be so different each time?

Ultimately, the key is to put all your focus into the work. I know for me, I don't even think it'll work or not work--I just do the work, focused but unattached to the process, and do my best to move on when it's done.

It might help to switch up your methods of focusing. Typical advice like "focus on your breathing" or "try to quiet your mind" never worked for me, I could never still myself. But then I discovered trying to focus on multiple items in my peripheral vision at once "overloads" me enough to switch into a mode where I'm empty-headed and focused. And loosen yourself up from the need that it feel like something in particular, it'll feel different everytime so don't try to expect anything.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

It isn't the candle that is being charged, it is something on a different dimension of existence overlapping the same space as the candle, becoming associated with it the way you are associated with your flesh; the dimension that the imagination & magic comes from is where you have this causal kind of control, the dimension that the intangible thing that you call "I" comes from. You're not working with physical objects, you're working with the intangible that is just as real as what you can see with your eyes, the higher dimension that expresses itself here in the physical.

If you believe that what your doing does not make sense, that it is silly and that it won't work, that has tangible effects in this higher dimension. To work your magic, you don't have to picture your breath going into the candle and charging it - though you could if that's your thing - you need to understand the logic behind it and recognize it as truth the same way a physicist recognizes that when a metal ball hits the line of balls at one end, the ball at the other end'll do a little jump.

 

[Anziel_Merkaba]

I am terrible at charging a candle or some other object. its like I don't think it is doing anything or something. Somehow I can't get it to feel right, I don't believe it is happening.

That's just because you lack properly focused willpower/intent. "Charging" an object is less about actually putting energy into something, and more about putting your own intent into it.

Everyone does it a little bit differently, but it boils down to you being able to imagine it being able to do what it needs to do. It's all in visualizing the outcome and believing that your working will manifest results. My practice is more focused on mental skills and theurgy, but I have some pretty useful exercises that might help you linked here.