Cyclical Results in Goetic Workings: Strong Initial Effects but No Final Manifestation

[claywas]

Hello everyone,

I would like to ask for your help regarding developments related to a topic I previously opened, and the cyclical stagnations that have come along with these experiences.

I will share my experiences below:

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Working with Prince Orobas​

I decided to begin working with Prince Orobas. Based on my research, I concluded that using a triangle of manifestation would be appropriate, and I prepared everything accordingly.

During the ritual, I focused on the sigil while chanting the enn for a while. Then I clearly stated my intentions and made an appropriate offering.

The next day, things began to develop exactly as I had hoped. I observed positive progress in my work and various ongoing issues. It felt as if locked doors were opening one after another.

However, the effect was like opening a bottle of champagne: strong and immediate, but short-lived. There was rapid movement forward, but my intentions were never fully realized.

I repeated this working three times, always on Thursdays, and each time I obtained the same result.

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Working with Prince Seere​

Later, because some of my matters were time-sensitive, I worked with Prince Seere to speed things up.

At first, the results were again impressive. I saw clear progress the following day, but afterward the same cycle repeated: rapid advancement followed by no final resolution.

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Working with Prince Vassago​

Feeling that I might be missing something, I worked with Prince Vassago to enhance my clairvoyance, perception, and intuition.

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Working with King Paimon​

After some time, I decided to work with King Paimon.

During this ritual, I saw a silhouette for the first time. It was behind me on my left side. Interestingly, the candle placed on that side melted significantly more than the others. While the other candles were not even halfway melted, that one was almost completely consumed.

Despite this, I did not observe any significant developments afterward.

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Working with Bune​

Finally, I worked with Bune.

This time, I attempted a more Solomonic-style invocation. In previous workings, I had mainly relied on enn chanting and meditation. After this working, I experienced dizziness for about two days.

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My Question​

My readings and divination consistently indicate that the rituals are successful, yet the lack of final manifestation makes me wonder whether I am doing something wrong.

I have made sure to:

• Follow the traditional planetary days associated with each spirit
• Make appropriate offerings
• Keep at least three days between workings
• Perform regular banishing and energy practices

Despite the initial strong progress, the lack of final results makes me wonder:

Has anyone else experienced this kind of pattern?

What would you recommend I change or focus on?

Thank you in advance for your insights.

Respectfully,

 

[A.A.S.B]

I think it might be more prudent if you formed a deeper relationship with one spirit before attempting working with multiple ones.
Yes, experiences related to the spirit do occur on days following the working, maybe you need to repeat the workings to get a deeper insight into the gifts of a particular spirit.

 

[FireBorn]

I would stop jumping currents and return to King Paimon specifically. You already had a dream/vision hearing a voice telling you to bring your questions to him. <----- There is your sign right there.

According to your experience, you are already known to him, and this is a good thing. It is also progress. Not every demon or every ritual produces fireworks right away, or in the expected way.

What if King Paimon is just checking you out? What if he is watching to see if you are serious enough to work with?

Circle back to Paimon, slow down. Sit with it. Let it be uncomfortable, let it be what it is. Maybe there is a lesson in there specifically for you. Sit in the silence, sit in the dark. Sit with it. Sit with Paimon in silence. Can you? Can you sit there without begging for things? Can you sit in the powerful, terrifying silence without cracking? Maybe this is a test. Maybe not, but you will not ever know unless you slow down and sit in it.

Just my perspective.

 

[A.Nox]

One thing I couldn’t quite gather from your post is the specific goal for which you are calling them. Without a clearly defined intention and some form of grounded relationship, goetic creativity often fails to produce the desired results.

In my own practice…the strongest and most stable results come when I focus on one spirit at a time, articulate precisely what I expect and build a consistent, conscious relationship with it. hmm maybe it would be worth returning to Paimon for now and clarifying the matter directly with him?

Best of luck with your workings