Elemental Spirits

[Wildchildx11]

I was going through a book and the concept of elemental spirits particularly gnomes came up.

I know the Golden Dawn system works with invoking Gnomes as part of the Zealator grade, trying to start with basics and follow a traditional system instead of going off and doing my own thing, I'm curious about elementals and working with them. I'm still kind of going off and doing my own thing but whatever.

I just focused on invoking gnomes (just focused on a Tattwa of a yellow square representing the element of Earth, with my intention to connect to Earth elementals), I was neglecting taking out the trash and kept on holding it off, and got a sudden drive to take it out, I did. I guess I realized I had increased energy to pick up and one thing that can help motivate me, instead of leaving things and neglecting chores, I should view my apartment as a dwelling place for spirits such as Gnomes which work with the energy of Earth.

A book I was reading mentioned house gnomes, is it worth building a relationship with a house gnome if you are looking to move due to issues with your apartment, can they follow you from place A to place B or even dwell in apartments, what about other housing environments such as Hotels? What are some better ways to connect with elemental spirits such as gnomes?

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My apartment is clean currently, it's not a cleanliness issue. It's an old apartment which has been neglected, I even showed the landlord after reporting the fact that I've been finding probably a cockroach every week or two my unit when she dropped up the receipt saying "I just felt that I should show you the unit just to address any concerns that it was a cleanliness issue" and she took one look at was like "You're good, it's an old building." Just probably giving TMI, but wanting to point out it's not an issue with me.

If I develop a relationship with a house gnome, can they potentially protect my apartment from cockroaches in the event the landlord won't handle pest control and just told me to go to the family dollar and get a bug bomb when I reported it or am I being overly optimistic about the power of house gnomes? This is such a modern day question but there is a reason I'm thankfully moving.

 

[pixel_fortune]

If I develop a relationship with a house gnome, can they potentially protect my apartment from cockroaches

My perspective on this is that you're mixing up two ideas of "gnome"

One is "little spirits that live in a house and can sometimes be helpful"

and the other is an earth elemental (which I think Eliphas Levi should not have called a "gnome" because it gives the wrong impression). That is like the raw, inhuman power of mountains and the dark depths of the earth and heavy towers of stone - it is closer to an animal than a human in the way it thinks, and I don't think an individual would sort of become a house spirit.

So I think you can develop a relationship with a house spirit (who would help you with house stuff), but it wouldn't be an earth elemental and wouldn't be done by using Levi's prayers to the elementals.

I built up a relationship with a house spirit by, every morning when I make my coffee, pouring a bit extra into a small cup and leaving it on shelf in the centre of my house, and saying the offering prayer from Aidan Wachter's Six Ways ("I give thanks to the spirits who aid and guard me. I thank them for their help, their protection and their infinite blessings") but you could also just use normal everyday English. A house spirit is very, well, domestic, and if I had a human houseguest, I would offer them a cup of coffee when I made one for myself. If you don't drink coffee/tea, maybe you offer a glass of water when you get one for yourself.

Lastly, the only thing that has ever worked for me with cockroaches is Borax. It's powder that's non-toxic for humans and pets, but they haaaaaate walking on - it basically cuts their feet and dries them out and they die. (It's like those dessicant sachets that they put in with vitamins to keep them dry). And you can sweep it into all the cracks, and leave a square of it under the fridge - it doesn't evaporate like poison so you can use it to make barriers under and around everything that just stay there indefinitely

 

[Wildchildx11]

My perspective on this is that you're mixing up two ideas of "gnome"

One is "little spirits that live in a house and can sometimes be helpful"

and the other is an earth elemental (which I think Eliphas Levi should not have called a "gnome" because it gives the wrong impression). That is like the raw, inhuman power of mountains and the dark depths of the earth and heavy towers of stone - it is closer to an animal than a human in the way it thinks, and I don't think an individual would sort of become a house spirit.

So I think you can develop a relationship with a house spirit (who would help you with house stuff), but it wouldn't be an earth elemental and wouldn't be done by using Levi's prayers to the elementals.

I built up a relationship with a house spirit by, every morning when I make my coffee, pouring a bit extra into a small cup and leaving it on shelf in the centre of my house, and saying the offering prayer from Aidan Wachter's Six Ways ("I give thanks to the spirits who aid and guard me. I thank them for their help, their protection and their infinite blessings") but you could also just use normal everyday English. A house spirit is very, well, domestic, and if I had a human houseguest, I would offer them a cup of coffee when I made one for myself. If you don't drink coffee/tea, maybe you offer a glass of water when you get one for yourself.

Lastly, the only thing that has ever worked for me with cockroaches is Borax. It's powder that's non-toxic for humans and pets, but they haaaaaate walking on - it basically cuts their feet and dries them out and they die. (It's like those dessicant sachets that they put in with vitamins to keep them dry). And you can sweep it into all the cracks, and leave a square of it under the fridge - it doesn't evaporate like poison so you can use it to make barriers under and around everything that just stay there indefinitely

This book on protection Magick mentioned house gnomes as a type of gnome, and I probably did confuse gnomes with house spirits. I think it's misunderstanding and misconstruing beliefs of the Golden Dawn, because it did give the LBRP in the previous chapter.

I've been recommended Borax before, but my landlord should be dealing with pest control, instead they abandoned the property and stopped showing up, I think they are going to be selling the property for the 5th or 6th time this year to another property management company. I'm hopefully going to be moving soon.

 

[pixel_fortune]

This book on protection Magick mentioned house gnomes as a type of gnome, and I probably did confuse gnomes with house spirits. I think it's misunderstanding and misconstruing beliefs of the Golden Dawn, because it did give the LBRP in the previous chapter.

I could just be wrong, too

I've been recommended Borax before, but my landlord should be dealing with pest control,

They should, but you're the one who has to live in the house. I say this is a lifelong renter with contempt for landlords, so I'm very much on your side. But if you are waiting on the good behaviour of a landlord to have a house that's liveable, it's probably never gonna happen. There's a mantra that a fixer I read about has: "Don't come here for justice." He'll fix your problems, but he can't get you justice. Justice would be the landlord doing his fuckin job, but he's probably never going to. So, for you, the question is: is it more important to be in the right - to know you didn't do the landlord's job for him - or is it more important to have the cockroaches gone? I would choose the latter because i haaaaaaate cockroaches, but I have also got vindictive and taken landlords to small claims court over tiny sums, way more hassle than the money was worth, just because I hated that they thought they could screw me over. So, I can see why'd you'd want to stick it out as well.


Basically, you can choose
Option A: Live with the cockroaches but feel righteous about it. (not SELF-righteous. You'd be actually righteous)
Option B: deal with the cockroaches even though you shouldn't have to.
Option C: the landlord deals with the cockroaches. This is fake, Option C doesn't exist., it won't happen, so trying to choose Option C would be a mistake. It's gotta be A or B

 

[Wildchildx11]

My perspective on this is that you're mixing up two ideas of "gnome"

One is "little spirits that live in a house and can sometimes be helpful"

and the other is an earth elemental (which I think Eliphas Levi should not have called a "gnome" because it gives the wrong impression). That is like the raw, inhuman power of mountains and the dark depths of the earth and heavy towers of stone - it is closer to an animal than a human in the way it thinks, and I don't think an individual would sort of become a house spirit.

So I think you can develop a relationship with a house spirit (who would help you with house stuff), but it wouldn't be an earth elemental and wouldn't be done by using Levi's prayers to the elementals.

I built up a relationship with a house spirit by, every morning when I make my coffee, pouring a bit extra into a small cup and leaving it on shelf in the centre of my house, and saying the offering prayer from Aidan Wachter's Six Ways ("I give thanks to the spirits who aid and guard me. I thank them for their help, their protection and their infinite blessings") but you could also just use normal everyday English. A house spirit is very, well, domestic, and if I had a human houseguest, I would offer them a cup of coffee when I made one for myself. If you don't drink coffee/tea, maybe you offer a glass of water when you get one for yourself.

Lastly, the only thing that has ever worked for me with cockroaches is Borax. It's powder that's non-toxic for humans and pets, but they haaaaaate walking on - it basically cuts their feet and dries them out and they die. (It's like those dessicant sachets that they put in with vitamins to keep them dry). And you can sweep it into all the cracks, and leave a square of it under the fridge - it doesn't evaporate like poison so you can use it to make barriers under and around everything that just stay there indefinitely

It honestly depends on the psychological model you take for a gnome.

It's probably easier for me to work with a house spirit when I want to work more with the element of Earth and balance it, than a entity that can move mountains. Both types of gnomes are real, even if they have the same name in that they are archetypes, even if people frequently have a different cognitive model of an elemental.

I hope moving mountains isn't what I need, probably better to work with a lesser elemental than one responsible for moving mountains. I mean, they are pretty much energy that takes an association of imagery in the psyche to represent movement of energy.


Pointy hat gnomes probably easier to connect with.