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I'm thinking Germany if the AfD doesnt join a collision with anyone during the election or at the least doesnt have too much power. I know everywhere has its problems.

As for how the US is going...it's been going downhill for years long before I was even born. A lot of bad laws have been arising lately regardless and Trump is no good guy hes destroying everything and Vance is no better. Right now a lot of antitrans laws are being enacted and as a transperson I am just tired of worrying about my rights constantly. It has been heavily affecting my mental health

At least Germany teaches their history and they don't mind transfolk in most areas. I have a dream to teach and I don't feel like I can easily do that in the US.
The AfD will never get into power. Germany is a very left-leaning country even compared to the rest of Europe. Especially young people. They won't tollerate AfD for long.

And when you look at AfD, even their leader is a middle-aged lesbian who married a sri lankan migrant. The only people they really have problem with are the radical muslim migrants who run over and stab people.

However, they won't get into power and will disappear in the long run.
There's a saying, “it's good where we are not.” It seems to me that these are not good times all over the world. But if you are thinking of moving, where to? I'm interested in your thoughts, because what they show us on TV, the U.S. is starting to wake up, and maybe what they show us is just a picture, but it's like you're starting to change the laws, and abolish bad values, put the budget back into medicine. Europe, on the contrary, is killing the last adequate worldview. But, if anything, welcome to Russia! We have free medicine!:)))) The song, if you listen to it with a Russian brain (without knowing the translation) looks like a soundtrack to a romantic movie!)
What adequate world view is Europe killing? :ROFLMAO:
 

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What adequate world view is Europe killing? :ROFLMAO:
war to the last Ukrainian is the motto of Europe. And okay, they don't care about the lives of Ukrainians. But what I see is Europe not protecting its own citizens. Muslim migrants, who feel themselves masters in Europe, and Europeans are fighting back against these insolent people. From the latest, just the bare facts, in Germany a criminal case was opened against a man who beat up an Afghan refugee who threatened his family. In a shopping center, a migrant chased a woman with 4 children. She turned to her husband for help. The husband arrived and hit the migrant. What do we have now on the way out? The migrant was placed in custody because he kept threatening others, but on February 20 he will be released. Although the migrant has several criminal cases already. And the man who protected his family gets a criminal case. Is this adequate? Shouldn't the state first of all protect the interests of its citizens? This is just a part of it, and this is certainly not a political forum, but I believe that Europe is now protecting valuable migrants, and the money is in the pockets of the authorities. And ordinary Europeans are suffering.
 

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war to the last Ukrainian is the motto of Europe.
That's a bit too simple no? :ROFLMAO: Next thing i'll hearTrump say is that it was the EU who started the whole war. :LOL:

Realistically, and on a serious note, it's more like the Ukrainians are fighting for their country and as long as they don't give up Europe is helping them?

Ofc that take is still a bit too simple. No one is completely innocent here, Ukraine, the USA, Russia, and even the EU did ugly things.

I just read today Trump said that Ukraine started this. And ofc everybody's calling him a traitor and similar things, even though he's not 100% wrong. Ofc no one with any brains likes Trump, obviously he's just another selfish billionaire who wants to milk everybody, make money for himself and his rich buddies and take the rights of poor people.

Now i, as a Hungarian in my 40s, have seen lots of things, i worked with Ukrainians, worked with Russians, they're the sweetest people ever, just like the average citizens in every country, I've had American, British teachers, they're also the sweetest people ever.

Actually when someone asks me whether i'm afraid of Russia invading one day, i say why would i be afraid, when i was a kid they were here, they never harmed me in any way, and they just packed up themselves and left.

Normal citizens just wanna live happy, prosperous lives, do business, raise families, etc.

Of course it's the systems that are rotten everywhere, in the USA, in Russia, in the EU and in Ukraine.

Now i don't like the Russian leadership and system, who would want to live in a country where opposition people are thrown out the windows.

The EU and the USA were guilty of letting loose the corrupt, nationalistic elements in Ukraine. That sealed Ukraine's fate.

Since they got rid of the Russia-friendly government, the Ukrainians have been making mistake after mistake. They were really treating minorities like dogs, they made the infamous language law that restricted native language use of minorities in education. That was a grave mistake. I remember the Poles, Romanians, Russians, Hungarians protesting on the USA embassy's twitter page against this law.

Now Trump has a big mouth, he's acting like he was just and committed everything to prevent war, however, during his first cycle, when we repeatedly asked his ambassador, Cornstein to do something against the minority-oppressing Ukrainian language law he always gave evasive answers and pretended not to understand the problem.

And of course there were the other mischiefs of the Ukrainian leadership. They let loose all the white pride nazi loonies. Ofc there are "proud boys" everywhere, in the USA, in Russia, in Germany, in Hungary, but what the Ukrainians were doing was outrageous compared to other countries. Mayor with Bandera picture in his office, openly nazi symbols everywhere, families nazi saluting at parades.

And ofc apart from the anti-minority laws there were other actions against minorities. For example I as a hungarian remember all the well-documented cases when they repeatedly burnt out the Hungarian cultural office in Transcarpathia. No one died, but still the message was obvious. Ukrainian nationalists were trampling on and burning even Polish flags.

Now this is the big mistake the Ukrainians did. They should have treated minorities as first class citizens, meet the requirements to join the EU as fast as possible, send the image to the outside world that they were the nicest, most democratic people on Earth. To gain entrance into all the important western institutions and gain real prosperity and freedom for their people. Instead they let loose their nazi loonies, i remember there were articles even in the western media that American neonazis were trained in Ukraine. With this behavior they gave good excuse for Putin to attack "righteously".

However, of course all the ukrainian mischiefs were forgotten when Putin invaded, because burning the cultural offices and flags of minorities and restricting their language use looked like kids' pranks compared to the destruction of whole cities the Russian army did.

Anyway, this whole war is very sad for everybody.

Wow, i rambled a lot, anyway, i thought the Europe wants to wage this war to the last ukrainian theory was a bit too simple, that's why i went into details.
 

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I moved this into a new thread in Controversy, as the replies have wandered away from the OP.
 

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The AfD will never get into power. Germany is a very left-leaning country even compared to the rest of Europe. Especially young people. They won't tollerate AfD for long.

And when you look at AfD, even their leader is a middle-aged lesbian who married a sri lankan migrant. The only people they really have problem with are the radical muslim migrants who run over and stab people.

However, they won't get into power and will disappear in the long run.

What adequate world view is Europe killing? :ROFLMAO:
Actually even the stabby muzzies are becoming seen as something like bad weather. "Ach! Es gesucks ze hippopotamus weenie, but vat kann ein Mensch machen? Ze selbst-defense ist ein hate-krime, nein? Better all mein Blut on the Boden than one drop of irgendeines Auslanders!"

Things be looking bleak in this upcoming anno 136.
 

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Things be looking bleak in this upcoming anno 136.
Ah, well. Every good revolutionary movement needs its 'inciting oppressive force'. Or a foul enemy to bring out a natural sense of justice. And people brave enough to lead the way, getting all the followers to follow.

Take me back to the good ol' days of European feudalism. You work the communal fields for like half the year, take the rest of the year off, and then die at 53 from diarrhea. This new stuff is very convulted, and frankly, depressing.
 

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Actually even the stabby muzzies are becoming seen as something like bad weather. "Ach! Es gesucks ze hippopotamus weenie, but vat kann ein Mensch machen? Ze selbst-defense ist ein hate-krime, nein? Better all mein Blut on the Boden than one drop of irgendeines Auslanders!"

Things be looking bleak in this upcoming anno 136.
Yeah, lots of Germans are moving to Hungary for that reason. Ofc Hungary has always been a popular German tourist destination many of them are settling down here for good. Here in Hungary, because of the long Turkish occupation, there's zero tolerance for any kind of radicalism from muzzies.

BTW @voidcat , Budapest is great for Americans, lots of them live there, teaching English and similar things. Budapest is a very liberal city, and Orbán is not controlling it, the liberals are controlling it, it's very friendly to LGBTQ people. Also, as Xenophon said, the radical muzzies in Germany are bigger danger to trans people than the lesbian-led AfD, who won't even get into power.

As for Orbán's party, they're a bit like AfD in that they just talk about traditional family values but they have more gay people in the party than the libs. Like one of Orbán's party's co-founder, Szájer József
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he had drugs on him too. The son of another long time Fidesz woman is openly gay and is also in the parliament, their star priest was busted with gay porn video and similar stuff, really a big comedy.

And anyway, Orbán's party will be dumped next year, at last there's a great challenger who's already leading them in the polls and they're gaining momentum every day.
 

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Yeah, lots of Germans are moving to Hungary for that reason. Ofc Hungary has always been a popular German tourist destination many of them are settling down here for good. Here in Hungary, because of the long Turkish occupation, there's zero tolerance for any kind of radicalism from muzzies.
This is the exact reason I moved here too. 🤣
 

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This is the exact reason I moved here too. 🤣
Germany is a great country too, I went there to metal festivals, i saw voidcat was worried about the language, well, everybody talked in English at the festivals, Germans too, ofc there were lots of nationalities there, Dutch, Spanish, Romanian people. Anyway, anywhere i went, everybody could speak English, even in smaller cities, at least more people than here in Hungary. Ofc Budapesst is very multinational and multicultural, almost everybody can speak English there.

BTW I studied German for 2 years at high school, in uni times i bought a German library, pro grammar books, oxford advanced learners type dictionary in German but then i never really had the time for it. Anyway, getting good at German is among my future plans 😁
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You see @voidcat , you had no reason to be scared of AfD, also, if i remember well, the pact of the other parties not to team up with AfD is for 12 years 😎:whistle:
 
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Germany is a great country too, I went there to metal festivals, i saw voidcat was worried about the language, well, everybody talked in English at the festivals, Germans too, ofc there were lots of nationalities there, Dutch, Spanish, Romanian people. Anyway, anywhere i went, everybody could speak English, even in smaller cities, at least more people than here in Hungary. Ofc Budapesst is very multinational and multicultural, almost everybody can speak English there.

BTW I studied German for 2 years at high school, in uni times i bought a German library, pro grammar books, oxford advanced learners type dictionary in German but then i never really had the time for it. Anyway, getting good at German is among my future plans 😁
Unfortunately for me, I'm from a much more infernal realm than Germany, but good for you I hope you can get those precious euros
 

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Unfortunately for me, I'm from a much more infernal realm than Germany, but good for you I hope you can get those precious euros
Haha, you know we still have the forint but i often trade in euros here, you can also pay in bigger shops like Tesco with euros sp there's no rush, so many multis here, the freedom of movement is also so big in the EU, i often pay with euros that i earnt in Italy here in Hungary.
 
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