Exorcice family ghosts/family spirits?

[Wannabewizard]

Through doing a Shamanic heeling course, the topic of family ghosts was discovered.
I found it confusing at first because only having just started to look at ancestor work, it seems that your ancestors are not ghosts but more part of your own energy.
I think that this could easily be confused as there are actual family ghosts involved that can wander into you before you have a natural defense against them. I recall a lot of stuff from before I could even talk and saw the magnetic field above peoples head, Leprechaun running through the wall to chat with me, and these strange white wispy things wandering around whispering to me, cold and icy as they entered.

I could see the thought form of my fathers father in him and so on. Still can, along with impossible facial contortions. It was horrific to a sensative and actually formed part of CPTSD from the faces. That and all the violence

To make it clear, the family ghosts I am trying to convey are not the facial expression energies, though they all have an effect.

I would say that unless you are born onto a family of priests/occultists who deal with this, most of the people on earth are possessed by these family ghosts in some way. It would explain a lot about the supposed human condition/hereditary problems if everyone got possessed from family ghosts before their first birthday!
I would explain even more about blame for bad behavior (that I could not control) occured and subsequent church intervention.

Familys birthing, living and dieing together in the same house as they used to, would make it easy for ghosts to remain for generations.

My head is full of frequent thoughts/impulses that are not my own that is something a parents would have done to excess like alcoholism violence, politics, certain patterns and styles that are familiar but not really me. It's all coming to a head as I pursue healing, a lot of resistance from inner forces to prevent my giving up what I dont need, that is harmful, yet traditional and accepted.

I might add that during my early life teen/twenties, I frequently woke up after intense dreaming about smoking tobacco, to the degree that it was 'normal' for me, to discover my fingers stained yellow with nicotice. I never touched tobacco!
This also happened to my siblings.
I automatically started drinking to stop pain without thinking about it and found ways to justify it easily. All a bit to easy.

Is there an approach to removing family ghosts?
I suppose one could do 'black magic' stuff with them and get them to obey my evey command, but it's probably better to get them to cross over

I doing this to get better and restore my health, not dominate strangers

I can easily communicate internally but am wary because of the negative nature of this. They may have actually helped me through a bunch of stuff are are keeping some of the abuse memories held back. I know this does happen.

This is assuming of course that family ghosts and ancestors are not the same.
Incidentally I would like to know how to sort out these family spirits and check on what is there. If I do in fact have a family Leprechaun with me and a Gargoyle, I would like to get to know them personally and work with them. Would be really usefull to discover the story of how they came to be associated to the family line. Someone must have written a work on this?

As usuall I am approacing this as a highly intutitive Autistic survival wizard, dropped in at the deep end of the cosmos. I am already in 'the occult' and need to make order out of it. I could use some assistance!

 

[ArchonLynx]

Ghost are just astral energies on repeat playing over & over usually a simple motion going up stairs or walking through a door thousands to millions of time can create a after image of energy that stays..

Just clear the energy

 

[Wannabewizard]

So that would also pertain to violent habits and generational cycles of abuse, especially in the same locations?
Energy patterns.

 

[ArchonLynx]

Yes it would

 

[Wannabewizard]

This is starting to make a lot of sense, even personal revelation.
Many recurring thought patterns that are not really mine.
I have had a huge pressure to drink recently and I dont usually, especially when something is trying to force it. I can't even take meds without something trying to take the 'buzz' from it, bearing in mind I can see spirits (horrifyingly) easily.
I suppose the LBRP or Psalm 91 could be used, something according to 'tradition'?
Then away foul shade to the abyss with you or something like that?
Is not like they want to go.

I have struggled at that point before with nasties, that showed themself as triangles or worms.
It was getting the root out that really sucked, well and truly anchored somehow.
I got partway before with some older stuff and could see shards coming away, but could not get it all and had to get help with that but it took years to find someone.
Apparently you have to get all the bits at once or it grows back, the shards stick in passes by
I think the problem is that it hurts and I know it hurts so I subconsciously avoid it, like pulling out a fish hook.
A hook is also a symbol I see often for things deeply embedded.

I think this also coincides with layers on the heart that are being stripped away.
There has got to be a better way?

 

[Cleric]

I would try this. I used it to get rid of the ancestral presence of my father, who was not a good person, suffice it to say. It is a form of releasing the dead, written by the late Her Grace Bishopess Tau Rosamonde Miller of the Sophian gnostic church. It's effective because it is not based on banishing in wrath, but rather banishing in love. That way, bad energies carried by the presences have no way to attach themselves to you.

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[NightWatchman95]

Through doing a Shamanic heeling course, the topic of family ghosts was discovered.
I found it confusing at first because only having just started to look at ancestor work, it seems that your ancestors are not ghosts but more part of your own energy.
I think that this could easily be confused as there are actual family ghosts involved that can wander into you before you have a natural defense against them. I recall a lot of stuff from before I could even talk and saw the magnetic field above peoples head, Leprechaun running through the wall to chat with me, and these strange white wispy things wandering around whispering to me, cold and icy as they entered.

I could see the thought form of my fathers father in him and so on. Still can, along with impossible facial contortions. It was horrific to a sensative and actually formed part of CPTSD from the faces. That and all the violence

To make it clear, the family ghosts I am trying to convey are not the facial expression energies, though they all have an effect.

I would say that unless you are born onto a family of priests/occultists who deal with this, most of the people on earth are possessed by these family ghosts in some way. It would explain a lot about the supposed human condition/hereditary problems if everyone got possessed from family ghosts before their first birthday!
I would explain even more about blame for bad behavior (that I could not control) occured and subsequent church intervention.

Familys birthing, living and dieing together in the same house as they used to, would make it easy for ghosts to remain for generations.

My head is full of frequent thoughts/impulses that are not my own that is something a parents would have done to excess like alcoholism violence, politics, certain patterns and styles that are familiar but not really me. It's all coming to a head as I pursue healing, a lot of resistance from inner forces to prevent my giving up what I dont need, that is harmful, yet traditional and accepted.

I might add that during my early life teen/twenties, I frequently woke up after intense dreaming about smoking tobacco, to the degree that it was 'normal' for me, to discover my fingers stained yellow with nicotice. I never touched tobacco!
This also happened to my siblings.
I automatically started drinking to stop pain without thinking about it and found ways to justify it easily. All a bit to easy.

Is there an approach to removing family ghosts?
I suppose one could do 'black magic' stuff with them and get them to obey my evey command, but it's probably better to get them to cross over

I doing this to get better and restore my health, not dominate strangers

I can easily communicate internally but am wary because of the negative nature of this. They may have actually helped me through a bunch of stuff are are keeping some of the abuse memories held back. I know this does happen.

This is assuming of course that family ghosts and ancestors are not the same.
Incidentally I would like to know how to sort out these family spirits and check on what is there. If I do in fact have a family Leprechaun with me and a Gargoyle, I would like to get to know them personally and work with them. Would be really usefull to discover the story of how they came to be associated to the family line. Someone must have written a work on this?

As usuall I am approacing this as a highly intutitive Autistic survival wizard, dropped in at the deep end of the cosmos. I am already in 'the occult' and need to make order out of it. I could use some assistance!

wow, first off, if you have to write a 500 word essay just to explain random vibes, chances are you might need to root yourself in the fundamentals first before you go off making weird apophenic connections like any tin foil hat wearer.

 

[8Lou1]

ill reply to some stuff, cause i have experience in it:
when youve done the spiritual healing and the mind starts to understand again, there is still one thing left to do and that the hardest: letting all the hooks go while seeing them go. its like they are still there and you want to kick them again cause you still notice them, but one shouldnt. its the body that is healing. the body has cells and they die and just like with getting to the gym to loose wait we need to get ride of the toxins that the minds eye still sees as hooks. drinking lots of fluid and peeing it all out really works, a sweat lodge works wonders too. so its a time where you have to rely on your knowledge about the body as a spiritual vessel. the body needs water to clean and sugar to get energy. i drink a lot of mogu mogu otherwise i faint. sugar stands for sweetness of life and i like to be happy, so i learned to drink lemonade. in the spiritual sense i forget about the pain the hooks did (i had a similar issue, but it presented as a rose thorn) and at the same time i am experiencing the truth about the symbolism of sugar in my life.

making a change is what you are doing. keep doing it and you will find what you need. i found an ancestor back on a place i even didnt know they would go there. just by having fun in life and not thinking about all of what we did to heal and kaboom big dream and the ancestor i had an argument with now hugged me. life is strange, but should also be a goodness befitting the leader. and in this case you are the one who took the lead in healing a family line. the death will figure it.

 

[System Error Message]

are you having an ESP problem or a ghost problem? your post is confusing. I for example experience anonymised experiences and memories of random people, can see and predict people in general. Its very very depressing knowing how others are and will be and why the divine has a bad opinion of humanity. However the only thing to overcome this is just inner strength and understanding.

For the issue of ghosts its something that i can help with directly, which only takes minutes. For a benign or not harmful ghost the solution is to help move them on from this world. Since you already understand their experience there doesnt seem to be anything rational to talk to them about, so its better to move them on instead which is better than letting them stay stuck here and negatively affect people.

Also reincarnation does happen and people bring with them old habits.

I very rarely encounter benign supernatural beings within these few worlds.

 

[Wannabewizard]

Sorry if it's confusing, a lot of stuff is happening and difficult to communicate. I know more than I know to say.
I think I get the hook thing, they literally appear to me as fish hooks, or as the object/incident that happened with PTSD intrusive images over and over again.
There is a huge shadow part involved in this and a maturing Ego.
Immediate relatives are unaware of or are repressing shadow big time. I think I am the first to deal with this in generations, I noticed some heavy resistance.
I suppose Ancestor energy comes into the shadow area?
Father abused psycho line, Mother Abused Autist line.

I think this is an ESP and possession issue along with trauma. If I get really emotional, poltergeist apparitions start up and I attract entities. I know for a fact ghosts wandered in around the time the family met up after I was born. That brought a lot of energy from both sides together in one room. I only recently discovered that infants dont have proper aura shielding early on in life and realized what had happened.
There are also other possession problems, complex and personal from esoteric abuse, regardless what anyone says.
I know what is me and what is not pretty well.
I have grown weary of relaying stories of abuse only to be rejected for it, so I mention the pertinent parts of it in a metaphysical sense when I am sure of what the problem is.

Truth is stranger than fiction.
There are many great changes here, dealing with family energy along side other issues, as it present itself to me.
Yes, give the body what it needs, electrolytes for sure.
Thankyou for that Gnostic release, I shall use it.

What is it that System Error is suggesting?