Freemasonry. Does it actually have anything to do with the occult or is that just a conspiracy?

[Accipeveldare]

I have heard a lot of things about freemasonry from occultists and non-occultists alike. Non-occultists tend to tell me it is a secret political satanist group seeking to control the world. (I dont believe that in the slightest) and Occultists tend to tell me it's simply a community of high respect individuals working together with occultism to make the world better? I'm not exactly sure whats what though

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Have a look at posts from @TheHummingbirdWizard who is a Mason and has posted on here about it.

 

[Accipeveldare]

Have a look at posts from @TheHummingbirdWizard who is a Mason and has posted on here about it.

Thanks

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Fun fact: the masons proper only go up to the 3rd degree. If you want to ascend to the 33rd degree, you need to join a "side order", which have their own order names. If you though masons proper were spooky, have a look at those.

I inquired into my local lodge and found the men there were... painfully average. It looked more like lonely guys eating, drinking, and hanging out together.

 

[Xingtian]

My overall impression from reading and talking to Masons is that the esoteric current is present for those who are interested, and there are side organizations where they meet, discuss, publish, etc., but your typical experience at the local Blue Lodge will be... kind of what IllusiveOwl said above. As far as Satanism, you're not going to find that anywhere. You will more likely encounter something along the lines of Rosicrucianism, Christian theosophy, alchemy, etc.

In terms of controlling the world, if that was ever the goal, it obviously isn't working. The one place where masonic lodges have real power is probably Italy, and it is very much a local thing, where a given lodge might have sway over a particular town.

 

[HoldAll]

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scandal was probably the only instance where a Masonic conspiracy was actually proven (no Reptilians though).

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Only yesterday I came across an actual conspiracy claiming that a 5,000 year old Phoenician clan was behind every major world event (there was a lot about 'bloodlines' and 'agendas', of course). I wonder what's next? The Visigoths? The Chukchi?

 

[Xingtian]

Italy's "Years of Lead" (which I think run roughly from the 60's to the 80's) were a crazy time, where there were lots of wild conspiracy theories and half of them turned out to be true, with agents of the KGB, CIA, mafia, Vatican, and masons infiltrating all kinds of organizations, sometimes the same organizations infiltrated by 3 or 4 factions.