Greatest Story ever told… From Turkey

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In Turkey the very first human ancestors were found, along with

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. Was found in Lake Van near Kef Kalesi,
Many scholars attribute the deity in the Lion as Teisheba, I argue this is incorrect, Teisheba is known to ride a bull, others say Haldi, that too I disagree with, Haldi does stand on a lion but carries weapons.
I argue this Box relief is the story of Enki and Ninmah,
Enki - God of Love, Creativity and Wisdom
Ninmah - aka Hagursaġ aka Ki the Great Mother
In the Sumerian Pantheon you have 2 deities that stand above all….
An - Cosmos God, he has nothing to do with the physical and Ki his consort.
There is a story where Enlil (yhwh to Christian’s, Zeus to Greeks and the “Blind God” aka Saklas to Gnostics)

I argue, An and Ki made Saklas. (Defective Humans aka “Blind Gods”.
In the story of Enki and Ninmah Ninmah gets upset because she cannot find use for their creation, The last line of it reads that Enki comforted The most exalted mother by saying he will find use for them, they will create a create a world of the Gods.

In this case it sounds as though Enki sacrificed his Love and Wisdom and to give the disabled Gods sight, he Gave them thought.

In the beginning there was the word, but Words without Thoughts are only words. I should note in their pantheon they have 7 fates for each God, other than Enlil, Enlil (us) have those 7 fates including the Essence of An and Ki… making 9. (Just like the Sephiroth)

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Interestingly this shows up in the Egyptian pantheon, Osiris resurrected is the Ankh An-Kh (An-Ki) (An - Enlil - Ki)
(His spine/body is the pillar and metaphysical body is the ankh
shown here…

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An Enlil Ki

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anything past the box bing a story of Enki and Ninmah is more speculation than anything but
Ninmah later known as Inanna was depicted as a lion was HIGHLY revered for her love.
Her allowing the sacrifice to Eve having Adam eat of the apple so he had free choice so he could make the blind god see. Was the ultimate sacrifice m ink x
It shows the box from Kef Kalesi is way older than Teisheba and Haldi.
What your thoughts WF?

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Enki would be the Enn of Ki aka Abraxas, aka what we call magick and everytime creativity or love like Enki is tried to be integrated into enlil (the demiurge, or (the most powerful ) Enki is chained up, like we see with Zeus and Prometheus, we are meant to collect gold for An and Ki to bring harmony yet People thing its physical, Alchemists know its metaphorical gold within us,
We aren’t hear to repair some aliens atmosphere, we’re here to help stabilize the balance of the unobserved Cosmos “An” and the observed “Ki”
We are not forced to reincarnate, we choose to the prodigal son
Gold is the physical essence of the “Sun”
We are meant to obtain the metaphysical gold of the “Son”
I argue we need an alchemy section,

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(My bad spelling errors but you get the gist)

 

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part one explained in further depth

An and Ki, the 2 highest Sumerian deities, people think of them as aliens to collect gold to sustain their atmosphere which makes no sense due to gold being abundant, I hypothesize they speak of alchemical gold of the soul.

The story goes An and Ki tried to get a slave race to get gold but they refused, (you can’t force someone to go through an alchemical process but you can force a slave to harvest physical gold) hence… the story not making sense.

In Gnostic texts there is a saying that creation had within it a “blind god”

Creation created by An was us, the blind “Gods” and it was Enki who saved creation (he’s known for love and creativity… )

An Enn is a mantra or prayer… so the Enki was the Enn of Ki placed on the demiurge aka the “blind gods” the Enn was a prayer of love and Ki placed within humans creativity.

In the story of Enki and Ninmah (Ninmah being the same as Ki but also represents love like Inanna does) is upset because she can’t find use for the blind gods aka “disabled humans” in the last line of the storyEnki says… “I will find use for them, they will build the home of Gods.”

It all ties back to the box mentioned in part one and the symbolism it shows. The box was found in Turkey where the most primitive human bones were found.

it shows who’s later known as Inanna or Ki /ninmah carrying An to fulfill her prayer, placing creativity into humans and the 3 boxes imo represent Mind, Heart and Body,

the confusion in reading the text comes in the translation, Ninmah and Innana represent the archetype of Ki An the deity of the Cosmos has nothing To do with earthly affairs.

 

[BlackMesa]

To say that we humans are both the demiurge and the blind gods makes sense to me. We are indeed the creators of the physical world, and in many cultures, we are described as unawakened gods who need to open the third eye to perceive the truth.

Regarding gold, I believe that alchemical texts are often meant to be read both allegorically and literally, with truths existing on multiple levels. Physical gold supports and nurtures the work of creating metaphysical gold. One cannot become an awakened magician without first meeting all their basic needs (which needs gold; a lot of gold imo).

 

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To say that we humans are both the demiurge and the blind gods makes sense to me. We are indeed the creators of the physical world, and in many cultures, we are described as unawakened gods who need to open the third eye to perceive the truth.

Regarding gold, I believe that alchemical texts are often meant to be read both allegorically and literally, with truths existing on multiple levels. Physical gold supports and nurtures the work of creating metaphysical gold. One cannot become an awakened magician without first meeting all their basic needs (which needs gold; a lot of gold imo).

My only rebuttal would be… we don’t need physical gold as currency, we develop skills and with creativity and genuine passion for what we do we can then exchange those creative skills for someone elses, money and physical gold as Currency is just a made up concept, gold, thought to be manifestation of the Sun, is probably why it was first used as currency but realistically, the true gold is the passion and Creativity to harness our power into what we create and strive to understand new concepts others can employ to imorove their craft ya know?
but nowadays yes, desired and wants are thought of more in monetary terms and we are tricked into being forced to comply to this system when really if we banded together and just traded skills we have then there wouldnt be use for money and leave room for more creativity.
(Rosey way of thinking about it as some people are crammed in cities and take jobs in govt to keep the govt going. It’s kind of a sick joke that we allow invisible chains to bind us. But it’s all people know and are taught nowadays,

 

[Xenophon]

In Turkey the very first human ancestors were found, along with

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. Was found in Lake Van near Kef Kalesi,
Many scholars attribute the deity in the Lion as Teisheba, I argue this is incorrect, Teisheba is known to ride a bull, others say Haldi, that too I disagree with, Haldi does stand on a lion but carries weapons.
I argue this Box relief is the story of Enki and Ninmah,
Enki - God of Love, Creativity and Wisdom
Ninmah - aka Hagursaġ aka Ki the Great Mother
In the Sumerian Pantheon you have 2 deities that stand above all….
An - Cosmos God, he has nothing to do with the physical and Ki his consort.
There is a story where Enlil (yhwh to Christian’s, Zeus to Greeks and the “Blind God” aka Saklas to Gnostics)

I argue, An and Ki made Saklas. (Defective Humans aka “Blind Gods”.
In the story of Enki and Ninmah Ninmah gets upset because she cannot find use for their creation, The last line of it reads that Enki comforted The most exalted mother by saying he will find use for them, they will create a create a world of the Gods.

In this case it sounds as though Enki sacrificed his Love and Wisdom and to give the disabled Gods sight, he Gave them thought.

In the beginning there was the word, but Words without Thoughts are only words. I should note in their pantheon they have 7 fates for each God, other than Enlil, Enlil (us) have those 7 fates including the Essence of An and Ki… making 9. (Just like the Sephiroth)

Here

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Interestingly this shows up in the Egyptian pantheon, Osiris resurrected is the Ankh An-Kh (An-Ki) (An - Enlil - Ki)
(His spine/body is the pillar and metaphysical body is the ankh
shown here…

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An Enlil Ki

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anything past the box bing a story of Enki and Ninmah is more speculation than anything but
Ninmah later known as Inanna was depicted as a lion was HIGHLY revered for her love.
Her allowing the sacrifice to Eve having Adam eat of the apple so he had free choice so he could make the blind god see. Was the ultimate sacrifice m ink x
It shows the box from Kef Kalesi is way older than Teisheba and Haldi.
What your thoughts WF?

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Enki would be the Enn of Ki aka Abraxas, aka what we call magick and everytime creativity or love like Enki is tried to be integrated into enlil (the demiurge, or (the most powerful ) Enki is chained up, like we see with Zeus and Prometheus, we are meant to collect gold for An and Ki to bring harmony yet People thing its physical, Alchemists know its metaphorical gold within us,
We aren’t hear to repair some aliens atmosphere, we’re here to help stabilize the balance of the unobserved Cosmos “An” and the observed “Ki”
We are not forced to reincarnate, we choose to the prodigal son
Gold is the physical essence of the “Sun”
We are meant to obtain the metaphysical gold of the “Son”
I argue we need an alchemy section,

Post automatically merged: Dec 22, 2024

(My bad spelling errors but you get the gist

Thanks for the reference to earliest ancestors. Learned about the find at Corakyerler (with the little tail on the C.) 8.7 million years IS oldish.

 

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Corakyerler (with the little tail on the C.) 8.7 million years IS oldish.

Thanks, I try to give some reference on how something could possibly be true so it doesn’t sound so outlandish - although I do often forget.

The finding‘s of those remains in Turkey seemed to have gotten swept under the rug so it seemed exceptionally important to mention them. Where life originated doesn’t seem so Important but the fact cultures had the same fundamental archetypes that get warped over time is interesting to hypothesize about -albeit an endeavor that likely won’t yield concrete results, the imagery is nonetheless always fascinating.

 

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Thanks, I try to give some reference on how something could possibly be true so it doesn’t sound so outlandish - although I do often forget.

The finding‘s of those remains in Turkey seemed to have gotten swept under the rug so it seemed exceptionally important to mention them. Where life originated doesn’t seem so Important but the fact cultures had the same fundamental archetypes that get warped over time is interesting to hypothesize about -albeit an endeavor that likely won’t yield concrete results, the imagery is nonetheless always fascinating.

"Swept" is right. I googled "oldest human remains," and got a bunch of hits for the 3.2-3.6 million year old find in South Africa. I added "in Turkey," and got referred to Corakyerler and its 8.7 million year old newbie. A true "WTF?" moment.