Have you ever thought that Lucifer is god?

[Adamon]

"It is a gnostic perspective because my beliefs are biased toward it, but what if it is true? If you read some of the gnostic gospels, especially the one where Jesus reveals how was the creation of the world, technically the demiurge is the serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. Moreover, it turns out that the Tree of Knowledge was never what it represents in the LHP. Instead of being the cause of awakening, it was synonymous of condemnation.

In addition, if I'm not mistaken, it was Michael W. Ford who presented this idea too. This is the thing that most disturbs me about this path. I mean, what if there isn’t any adversary? What if there isn’t any exit? And what if both sides are just "bitches" of the demiurge?

If you think about it, there are a lot of black wizards working with cosmic powers such as Saturn, a planet that we know is related to the demiurge. I mean, I don’t like the gnostic side—it’s nothing but right-hand path nonsense. So, what do you think about this?"

 

[WisdomAddict]

As I read the different sources LHP and gnostic
It's been said that demiurge send his foot army and managed to kill the Jesus ( being the true God source manifestation on that timeline ) to keeping the souls trapped here.
(Is this simulation really a place that true God sources wanted to exist , so he let all of this happen ?)
(Is the demiurge just the lower dimmentional reflection of the true God ?( I don't think so)
(Does really Jesus provided the god source divine material aka Sophia's essence to create man and the material universe ?(I can't blasphemy )
What's the whole point of all of this clown realm ? = ????
What we need is 'keys' not just more raw information that's makes even more confusion...

In my percpctive everything inside the simulation is made by demiurge and it's rulling under it's governce and it's need to be overcomed by the inner gnosis and gaining godsource consciousness and bypassing the planetary archons and outer matrix's of the physical matrix including time matrix...
(The. What might happen after all of that !? Home return to Godhead of true God source or endless reincarnation for demiurge and the archons amusement !?
I'm still on searching
The link here that most of the schools are pointing to the demiurge as the lier and the false creator and they all point to him as the source of all missary

All I know is the true representation of the godsource being the lord Jesus Christ since I had personal encounter with him literally in our reality like he was from a complete higher dimension that we look like 2d cartoon comapre to his image...
And I understand your points because what we are looking for its might be lost or lost in translation or it's coded and it's like a puzzle that we try to embody and realize about its ultimate nature without having access to hidden source materials and most importantly the 'keys' to unlock the available materials...

 

[Xenophon]

The now-disbanded Knights Tyrodhal, an Argentine neo-gnostic group, specifically identified their chief deity as Lucifer. Though, be it admitted, their cosmology was definitely non-Christian.

 

[Wintruz]

I think a significant, potentially fatal, flaw in the Satanic-adjacent milieu at this moment is the inability of many who would follow it to move beyond Abrahamic cosmology and language. I say "Abrahamic", I mean Jewish, which is what the Qlippoth, Da'ath, Goetia and the wheelhouse of Michael Ford and Co. are about.

If there is anything in the Western LHP that causes me to think it's losing its value as a vehicle for potent change, it is its being hampered down by this and the wild imaginings which arise from it. I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if, in the coming years, we see entirely different systems (perhaps even traditional religions) being consciously used by Masters of the Left Hand Path as vectors to teach initiation.

In addition, if I'm not mistaken, it was Michael W. Ford who presented this idea too. This is the thing that most disturbs me about this path. I mean, what if there isn’t any adversary? What if there isn’t any exit? And what if both sides are just "bitches" of the demiurge?

The point of taking on an adversarial role is to reverse the programs which have controlled you. If you're not doing that, then this is really just anti-social LARPing. Once you've uprooted your deepest programming, you can then re-construct yourself and your world in accordance with your uncovered Essence.

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

That depends on what you consider a god to be. Officially, there were no historical worship of that entity. Which means we can't consider that entity as and "old god".

HOWEVER.

People think some ancient deities were faces of that figure.

Also. Even thought Lucifer is not an historical god, there are is NOW a lot of people who consider him as if. Same for Lilith.

 

[Shade]

"It is a gnostic perspective because my beliefs are biased toward it, but what if it is true? If you read some of the gnostic gospels, especially the one where Jesus reveals how was the creation of the world, technically the demiurge is the serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. Moreover, it turns out that the Tree of Knowledge was never what it represents in the LHP. Instead of being the cause of awakening, it was synonymous of condemnation.

In addition, if I'm not mistaken, it was Michael W. Ford who presented this idea too. This is the thing that most disturbs me about this path. I mean, what if there isn’t any adversary? What if there isn’t any exit? And what if both sides are just "bitches" of the demiurge?

If you think about it, there are a lot of black wizards working with cosmic powers such as Saturn, a planet that we know is related to the demiurge. I mean, I don’t like the gnostic side—it’s nothing but right-hand path nonsense. So, what do you think about this?"

If you look at the picture of Jesus on the cross, there is a school of thought that Lucifer is looking towards Jesus and Ahriman is looking away, Lucifer being spiritual, Ahriman being of the physical, and then there’s a path inbetween,!8 laid out a theory in general discussion that we all may infact be the blind gods and Saklas / demiurge ect, and it was the sacrifice of Enki that gave us wisdom, creativity and love, and that is what salvation is… us utilizing these principles to achieve a higher state of consciousness, there’s no good vs evil, just creative force but to achieve higher states love is part of divine will.