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[Trialectical_Materialist]

INTRODUCTION

Relatively new to magick as a practice. Mostly interested in historical texts and technical theory. The armchair is my home.

I love

-cats
-lego
-Amadeo bordiga
-Underrated Japanese Jazz fusion artist masayoshi Takanaka

I despise

-poor understandings of quantam physics used to prop up placebo practices.
-Commodities
-anyone who believes in the individual

Further knowledge on me can be acquired by a thorough study of George Costanza from seinfeld.

 

[pixel_fortune]

From Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell: the president of the York society of theoretical magicians explains why they don't practice magic:

"It presupposes that magicians have some sort of duty to do magic - which is clearly nonsense. You would not, I imagine, suggest that it is the task of botanists to devise more flowers? Or that astronomers should labour to re-arrange the stars? Magicians study magic. Why should any one expect more?"

 

[Xingtian]

Welcome. I was a brief member in a Bordigist party. I still respect them even though I’ve moved well away from that kind of orthodox Marxism. I think we’ll get along.

 

[league]

Welcome to the forum and nice to meet you.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

Hello and welcome to the forum

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Welcome!

Do you even love lego when you stand on it in the middle of the night?

 

[Amur]

Hello and welcome to the forums!

 

[Xenophon]

INTRODUCTION

Relatively new to magick as a practice. Mostly interested in historical texts and technical theory. The armchair is my home.

I love

-cats
-lego
-Amadeo bordiga
-Underrated Japanese Jazz fusion artist masayoshi Takanaka

I despise

-poor understandings of quantam physics used to prop up placebo practices.
-Commodities
-anyone who believes in the individual

Further knowledge on me can be acquired by a thorough study of George Costanza from seinfeld.

You George II or the Anti-George?

How about magick and such? Costanza showed no sech leanings.

 

[Xingtian]

I want to talk about the magickal implications of Amadeo Bordiga’s thought

 

[Robert Ramsay]

I want to talk about the magickal implications of Amadeo Bordiga’s thought

I just read the Wikipedia page about him, never having heard of him before, and I'm not seeing any magical implications beyond the classic Communist one of trying to force civilisation into a new shape using words.

 

[Xingtian]

I was half-joking... Having said that, there are probably some interesting avenues to be explored from his concept of "the historical invariance of Marxism" and related doctrines about the party. Likewise his analysis of capital developing a life of its own, to the point that it no longer needed a living bourgeoisie (this is key to his analysis of the capitalist character of Soviet "socialism").

The group I was associated with, based in Florence, has openly talked about a "communist mysticism", much to the bemusement of other marxists.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Read Das Kapital and wait for the mystic visions to overwhelm you... or just gently fall asleep...

 

[Xingtian]

The stuff about commodities and money is a classic theory of the egregore.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

A thing which is real even though it doesn't exist

 

[Konsciencia]

Welcome and Welcome!

 

[Trialectical_Materialist]

Welcome!

Do you even love lego when you stand on it in the middle of the night?

Too autistic to let my lego touch the floor

I just read the Wikipedia page about him, never having heard of him before, and I'm not seeing any magical implications beyond the classic Communist one of trying to force civilisation into a new shape using words.

"If under the guise of the squalid Catholic saints the most ancient form of a not-inhuman divinity, like the Sun, continues to live, this brings to mind what knowledge we have — all too often a travesty! — of the Incan civilization that Marx admired. It is not that they were primitive and ferocious enough to sacrifice the most beautiful specimens of their young to the Sun who cried out for human blood, but that such a community, magnificent and powerfully intuitive, recognised the flow of life in that same energy which the Sun radiates on the planet and which flows through the arteries of a living man, and which becomes unity and love in the whole species, which, until it falls into the superstition of an individual soul with its sanctimonious balance sheet of give and take, the superstructure of monetary venality, does not fear death and knows personal death as nothing other than a hymn of joy and a fecund contribution to the life of humanity."

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Tell me that shit ain't mystical as FUCK

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You George II or the Anti-George?

How about magick and such? Costanza showed no sech leanings.

DNA test came back, I'm 100% HIMalayan.

As for magick, I'm mostly interested in the Greco-Roman tradition, or what little is preserved of it. However I don't really see any reason to stick to one tradition. I have a very mechanistic understanding of things, and I'm mostly trying to piece together a set of consistent fundememtals of which to base my ritual practice.

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I was half-joking... Having said that, there are probably some interesting avenues to be explored from his concept of "the historical invariance of Marxism" and related doctrines about the party. Likewise his analysis of capital developing a life of its own, to the point that it no longer needed a living bourgeoisie (this is key to his analysis of the capitalist character of Soviet "socialism").

The group I was associated with, based in Florence, has openly talked about a "communist mysticism", much to the bemusement of other marxists.

My love for bordiga comes entirely from how entertaining he is to read. You have no idea how entertaining dialouge with stalin is after trudging through capital v1 in high school.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

"If under the guise of the squalid Catholic saints the most ancient form of a not-inhuman divinity, like the Sun, continues to live, this brings to mind what knowledge we have — all too often a travesty! — of the Incan civilization that Marx admired. It is not that they were primitive and ferocious enough to sacrifice the most beautiful specimens of their young to the Sun who cried out for human blood, but that such a community, magnificent and powerfully intuitive, recognised the flow of life in that same energy which the Sun radiates on the planet and which flows through the arteries of a living man, and which becomes unity and love in the whole species, which, until it falls into the superstition of an individual soul with its sanctimonious balance sheet of give and take, the superstructure of monetary venality, does not fear death and knows personal death as nothing other than a hymn of joy and a fecund contribution to the life of humanity."

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Tell me that shit ain't mystical as FUCK

I would still not be letting him near my cutlery drawer.

 

[Xingtian]

Too autistic to let my lego touch the floor

"If under the guise of the squalid Catholic saints the most ancient form of a not-inhuman divinity, like the Sun, continues to live, this brings to mind what knowledge we have — all too often a travesty! — of the Incan civilization that Marx admired. It is not that they were primitive and ferocious enough to sacrifice the most beautiful specimens of their young to the Sun who cried out for human blood, but that such a community, magnificent and powerfully intuitive, recognised the flow of life in that same energy which the Sun radiates on the planet and which flows through the arteries of a living man, and which becomes unity and love in the whole species, which, until it falls into the superstition of an individual soul with its sanctimonious balance sheet of give and take, the superstructure of monetary venality, does not fear death and knows personal death as nothing other than a hymn of joy and a fecund contribution to the life of humanity."

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Tell me that shit ain't mystical as FUCK

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DNA test came back, I'm 100% HIMalayan.

As for magick, I'm mostly interested in the Greco-Roman tradition, or what little is preserved of it. However I don't really see any reason to stick to one tradition. I have a very mechanistic understanding of things, and I'm mostly trying to piece together a set of consistent fundememtals of which to base my ritual practice.

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My love for bordiga comes entirely from how entertaining he is to read. You have no idea how entertaining dialouge with stalin is after trudging through capital v1 in high school.

Bordiga is an enthralling writer- erudite, sarcastic, curious, etc. That quote you gave also somewhat exemplifies a problem I have with a lot of his prose- he really packs a lot of thought into one sentence, to the point that it can get really turgid and hard to read. Maybe this works better in the original though I heard he wrote in a particularly Neapolitan idiom which was not always clear to northern Italian readers. In any case when I was translating a few of his texts I often had a hell of a time making it into readable English.

 

[Xenophon]

Bordiga is an enthralling writer- erudite, sarcastic, curious, etc. That quote you gave also somewhat exemplifies a problem I have with a lot of his prose- he really packs a lot of thought into one sentence, to the point that it can get really turgid and hard to read. Maybe this works better in the original though I heard he wrote in a particularly Neapolitan idiom which was not always clear to northern Italian readers. In any case when I was translating a few of his texts I often had a hell of a time making it into readable English.

Too autistic to let my lego touch the floor

"If under the guise of the squalid Catholic saints the most ancient form of a not-inhuman divinity, like the Sun, continues to live, this brings to mind what knowledge we have — all too often a travesty! — of the Incan civilization that Marx admired. It is not that they were primitive and ferocious enough to sacrifice the most beautiful specimens of their young to the Sun who cried out for human blood, but that such a community, magnificent and powerfully intuitive, recognised the flow of life in that same energy which the Sun radiates on the planet and which flows through the arteries of a living man, and which becomes unity and love in the whole species, which, until it falls into the superstition of an individual soul with its sanctimonious balance sheet of give and take, the superstructure of monetary venality, does not fear death and knows personal death as nothing other than a hymn of joy and a fecund contribution to the life of humanity."

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Tell me that shit ain't mystical as FUCK

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DNA test came back, I'm 100% HIMalayan.

As for magick, I'm mostly interested in the Greco-Roman tradition, or what little is preserved of it. However I don't really see any reason to stick to one tradition. I have a very mechanistic understanding of things, and I'm mostly trying to piece together a set of consistent fundememtals of which to base my ritual practice.

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My love for bordiga comes entirely from how entertaining he is to read. You have no idea how entertaining dialouge with stalin is after trudging through capital v1 in high school.

I like his style. I ain't met many Marxists like that, and I've known more than I want to.

 

[Konstantin]

Welcome!