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Help me with understanding Crowley

Lucien6493

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Solid response, and much nicer and more eloquent than I am. Great points you brought up, honestly. I normally look at the fruits of a practitioner rather than the person, but Crowley was so loud of a man it is really hard to see past his own bullshit.

His Abyss crossing, I question it. The HGA concept, and his experience with it left me scratching my head, doesn't hold much water. And if that is an example of his path, then I'm out. Too Abrahamic for my taste. Dying alone (or mostly alone) penniless, addicted, full of ego, I dont need magick for any of that. (Yep, I'm a bit jaded, but I will leave room for a bad interpretation on my part. Maybe some day I will circle back to some of his stuff, maybe I will grow into it in a new way, never know.)

Even despite the million holes in all his stuff, he was brilliant, rebellious and irreverent, and I love that. He had some great insights, even if they weren't all his. His whole life didn't suck, its just easy to only see those parts. Trying to be objective here.

That said, there are tons of folks who find themselves following his words and system. I personally follow no system. I tried Thelema for about a year, fuck man, I just struggled with the word mazes and barbs. Truth doesn't require any of that, ego often does. To me there are big things that Thelema doesn't resolve about itself, so I parted ways with it entirely. Again, others find themselves in it and that's amazing. Zero judgement. If it resonates, it resonates. To me, it didn't, it just took me a year to decide.

Love is the law, love under Will is pretty badass though.

**Last thought, Crowley, also Parsons were both great examples of practitioners with all fire and zero grounding. I resonate with that aspect so much. I had to learn how to be grounded so I didn't burn up and flame out like Parsons, or burn so hot that ego takes over like Crowley.
Towards the end of his life Crowley wrote:

"love may best be defined as the passion of hatred inflamed to the point of madness, when it takes refuge in self-destruction".
(Little Essays Towards Truth, 1938).

You can take that in one of two ways, but really, with an attitude like that....well, what can I say? All fire and no grounding. No shit. That pretty much covers it. Puts him in a whole new light though. ;)
 

Firetree

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Maybe he read Bierce's 'Devil's Dictionary' :

'' Love ; A temporary insanity curable by marriage, or by the removal of the patient from the influences under which he incurred the disorder .''

:)


or maybe the definition you chose has a deeper meaning when examined in light of his other writings about love ?

Apparently, as I am told by some others , the more passionate one is the closer intense love and hate are . I dont get that myself , but then again , I have also been told I 'lack passion ' ( by a Latino gf that is ! :D )
 
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