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With a pencil and paper? Seriously, there are scores of books on the Kabbalah/Qabalah in the Library, more online resources than you can shake a stick at, and you're asking such a vague question about the Tree of Life? The standard book for the Western/Hermetic/GD Path is probably Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah" where I have my woefully rudimentary knowledge from, here is also a book recommendation in case this thread turns into a more sophisticated discussion about the Tree of Life:


The book changed everything I thought I knew about the Qabala because it champions the Zohar/Ari Tree that has no paths between Malkuth and Hod/Netzach (= you always have to go through Yesod, the realm of illusion, and there's no possibility whatsover of bypassing it) and has Geburah-Chokmah as well as Chesed-Binah paths instead. There. Let the controversy begin.
 

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I found another variant. It's thinks it's like a Sabbatean Donmeh thing... but yeah, still cut off from prophecy without dealing with the "membrum".
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I found another variant. It's thinks it's like a Sabbatean Donmeh thing... but yeah, still cut off from prophecy without dealing with the "membrum".
That's certainly unusual... so Kether would be identical with the Ain Soph here??
 

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That's certainly unusual... so Kether would be identical with the Ain Soph here??
I'm not entirely sure. I came it while researching the term "ma'asim zarim", which I understand is translated as "strange and paradoxical acts", applied to Shabbatai Zevi's behavior. I believe this version of the Tree is a much later formula, the philosophical basis of which is the de-emphasis or dismissal of the transcendental in favor of a more Creation (or demiurgic) focus. Anyways, I have been researching Sabbateanism, Frankism and their heavily understated (or rather, suppressed) influence - hoping to find a sneaky link to the Frenchies and Victorians.

But here's the site I got it from:
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I found another variant. It's thinks it's like a Sabbatean Donmeh thing... but yeah, still cut off from prophecy without dealing with the "membrum".
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I like this version, since Kether kinda seemed unnecessary if it's supposed to represent source. Plus it's assumed that Binah follows Chochmah anyhow numerically in the regular tree, having them equilateral was more confusing than this arrangement

What I like most about this is the emphasis on the centrality of Tiferet, without the repeating triangular shape of the regular tree, it's more obvious here. It took a long time before I realized how connected to EVERYTHING Tif was on the tree, and for good reason.
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Also, in order to reach the highest level of the tree, on this version it's clear that one MUST pass through Da'ath, Crowley's Abyss.
 

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I like this version, since Kether kinda seemed unnecessary if it's supposed to represent source. Plus it's assumed that Binah follows Chochmah anyhow numerically in the regular tree, having them equilateral was more confusing than this arrangement

What I like most about this is the emphasis on the centrality of Tiferet, without the repeating triangular shape of the regular tree, it's more obvious here. It took a long time before I realized how connected to EVERYTHING Tif was on the tree, and for good reason.
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Also, in order to reach the highest level of the tree, on this version it's clear that one MUST pass through Da'ath, Crowley's Abyss.
Reminds me of what I heard of Indian gurus said once who absolutely refuse to discuss the crown chakra because it's ineffable and divine and not properly a part of the human subtle body, so Kether could indeed be the Source. Nice.

What's more, this scheme emphasizes the Pillar of Balance, also a good idea.
 

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crown chakra
I've heard a few refer to another Chakra above the crown and use that to represent source, with the Crown more being the entry point for it, the antennae for the radio of the third eye. There probably are a lot of reasons why Guru's wouldn't want their students to learn of the crown, because if all their students reach the refinement of that Chakra, the Guru would have no students left to support himself with :eek:

this scheme emphasizes the Pillar of Balance,
Totally agree. Was skeptical at first of a new tree of life layout but this is locked in for me.
 

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The tree of life in Qabalah style can be drawn in different ways: as if they were 3 pillars (two lateral and one central). The central pillar is composed of: the highest point, that is the crown, the one below by knowledge, followed by beauty, foundation and finally the kingdom. The left pillar is represented by intelligence, strength and splendor and finally the right pillar is represented by wisdom, love and eternity. I hope I was helpful!
 

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With a pencil and paper? Seriously, there are scores of books on the Kabbalah/Qabalah in the Library, more online resources than you can shake a stick at, and you're asking such a vague question about the Tree of Life? The standard book for the Western/Hermetic/GD Path is probably Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah" where I have my woefully rudimentary knowledge from, here is also a book recommendation in case this thread turns into a more sophisticated discussion about the Tree of Life:


The book changed everything I thought I knew about the Qabala because it champions the Zohar/Ari Tree that has no paths between Malkuth and Hod/Netzach (= you always have to go through Yesod, the realm of illusion, and there's no possibility whatsover of bypassing it) and has Geburah-Chokmah as well as Chesed-Binah paths instead. There. Let the controversy begin.
Yes, I suppose to draw it at least once a week, but I cant actually find how to draw it in paper, thank you.
 

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Even though the image @stalkinghyena posted gives another configuration, the way to draw the Tree is shown there.
You will need a compass and ruler, make your first circle, and from there switch the points of the compass (put the needle on the edge of the circle) to find the three points of the Triangle, then put the needle on one of these to start drawing your other circles. The edge of one circle crosses the center of another.
I had a Dutch book where it was explained but if you take a look at the image you'll figure it out.
 

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I agree with the compass as it builds discipline - I heard a ways back that Mason candidates had to draw a pentagram with a compass for admission, and I am lost on how to do that. But if you get tired of stabbing yourself with the compass poky, you could use a circle stencil.

the image @stalkinghyena posted gives another configuration
I have more...
K(C)(Q)abbalists don't seem to agree on anything.😐
 

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John Michael Greer's Learning Ritual Magic on pages 8 through 11 go through a decent construction of the Tree of Life.
 
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