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I have a new opinion of Prince Orobas and the others

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I used to think he helped newbies, but didn't see any change in my life. I guess I didn't beg or pray enough. Offerings might've helped.
Then my attitude went sour due to condescending remarks in my eyes from someone else, which instantly drives me up a wall.
Especially since there are unresolved matters, such as credit where its due.
Anyway, after a story about him I just read, I put it in new perspective.

Im still not Team Demon, but I dont view them as harshly as I used to.
 
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I normally always stick to evocations rather than invoking as i find that all you really need to do with evoking is to build enough energy, invoking requires less energy but more time is spent on invoking, chanting, praying, enns, etc. It gets really tiring after a while.

Your request could still be on its way, but you honestly have to invoke Orobas (or any other demon) on a daily basis. Its really slow moving energy but it would work as long as you keep at it. May be try evoking?

I'm not sure if I'm entirely right here but anyway that's my opinion and experience.
 
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I like thinking of them like Temp agencies, where perhaps they are the CEO of the agency. Each has its own industry, rewards and punishments, etc. Some aim high, some low.
Funny a temp agency popped up on idea, I applied, they responded, I rescheduled, they accepted.
Looks like someones at work :)
Custodian at a large Hospital. Raphael perhaps?

What he seems to be UPG with folks working with him - Dignity, Honor, Truth, Loyalty. He was in a high Choir. I respect that. Brothers in Arms.
 
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I like thinking of them like Temp agencies, where perhaps they are the CEO of the agency. Each has its own industry, rewards and punishments, etc. Some aim high, some low.
Funny a temp agency popped up on idea, I applied, they responded, I rescheduled, they accepted.
Looks like someones at work :)
Custodian at a large Hospital. Raphael perhaps?

What he seems to be UPG with folks working with him - Dignity, Honor, Truth, Loyalty. He was in a high Choir. I respect that. Brothers in Arms.
I always thought that the spirit that i was talking to wasn't really, Lucifer or Lilith but representatives of those demons. I would still address them as (Spirit name) as they are working for the spirit you intended to summon, honestly i think most Kings, dukes etc are far too busy to be communicating with us mortals but i guess you would never really know.
 

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RE: Left Hand Path, Black Magic and Demonology
SUBTOPIC: ≈ I have a new opinion of Prince Orobas and the others
⁜→ Diluculo_DelFuego, et al,

Early on in Christianity, the concept of a demon is much different from what is generally thought to be in contemporary times. In early times the term "demon" was often used as an alternative name for enemy forces and hostile countries. Oddly enough, the "Demon Abigor" (a Prince of Hades) was described as a handsome figure of a Knight in shining armor bearing a sword and scepter. The "Demon Orobas" (also a Prince of Hades) is described in the opposite, in several ugly ways (rarely a shining knight).

In Deuteronomy 32:17, the differentiation between those supernatural entities that are not to be honored (the dark forces) and those that can be honored (the forces of light) surfaced.

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Most Respectfully,
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