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Is it Satan, Lucifer or Belial as the head of the Infernal empires?

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I recall seeing in a book an overview of the Qlippoth, and either Lucifer or Belial as the complete entirety of it.
Yet in the Qlippoth, Satan and Moloch are the two contending giants and head or tail of the Qlippoth.
 
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Lucifer is a minor Roman Deity of light that got dragged into the Bible. Lucifer is considered as the "the lightbringer" and is one demon among others. I found this regarding Lucifer:

"Venus in Sanatana Dharma is the highest cosmic principal it rules sound and white light and the spectrum of light. As it descends creating all existence which is condensed sound and light. However what we perceive as white light is stated in the Vedic texts to be blue light. This is why the ancient image of the God Sanat Kumara are also shown blue. The purified soul and the concept of Venus. This is the reason for Lucifer, its a name of Venus. Sanat Kumara is called Shurka, Venus in the original language of Sanskrit. Sanat esoterically represents Venus. This is the same God as Dionysus and Osiris are also called Venus in their ancient cultures."

If I am not mistaken, "Satan" means adversary. Satan wasn't introduced until the Jews encountered (and partially adopted aspects of) Zoroastrianism. So, all demons could be labelled as such, since they embody chaos. Satan would be more of a title instead of an entity.

Some authors and or practitioners consider by their UPG that demons are the same, either distinct entities. Some would therefore say that "Satan" is an adversary concept rather than an entity, grouping together different demons constituting what is called chaos (the opposite of harmony).
 

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So back to the question, who's the boss of hell?
Look into Thomas Karlssons' book about Qliphot (Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic) and you will get the answer.
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According to Karlsson, The goal of Left Path and according to the Qliphotic Alchemical Path is to reach the outermost dark sphere Thaumiel, This qlipha signifies the twine God and is represented by the two devil princes, Satan and Moloch. They correspond to the utmost polarity and duality inherent in one principle. Satan is the opponent or the rebel against Creation and those structures that bind together existence and limit the magician. These two principles of Lord and Rebel are united at Thaumiel. Satan destroys Universe A in which the magician is the creation, and Moloch opens Universe B, in which the magician is a creator. These mysteries are considered so revolutionary and difficult to understand that one deal with them exclusively during a higher degree of initiation.
 
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