Islamic magic without Islamic patriarchy

[thepolestar]

My spirits have guided me to read some commentaries and analysis of the Quran lately, and it's a very occult text - likely a bigger heavy hitter than the Bible. But I am NOT down with their fake prophet, who was a pedophile & who hated women, or the history of woman-hating attitudes in Islam. I also think the version of Allah that Muhammad contacted is likely a demiurge of some kind; the real Allah may have a more gnostic or otherwise Pagan-friendly face.

Almost all Sufi occultists rely on basic dogma to cast their spells, but it's dogma that I don't want (e.g. "no God but this demiurge, and this pedophile is his prophet"). But the underlying magical tech is powerful. Is there a woman-friendly version of Islamic magic?

Or has someone taken apart the tech, examined it, and repurposed it in a woman-friendly/pagan-friendly paradigm?

 

[ADiTyA RaJ]

I don't think there is something like this that you are asking.

 

[Adelina]

All of Arabian Magic appeared before Islam, but with advance of Islam a lot of Islamic things were superimposed on it. My advice would be, if you want to venture on territory of Arabian Magic, try to find some good practices, which don't involve Quran, it might be harder to find them, but they are out there. Surely, they might involve Allah, but Allah simply means something like "God" and not something exclusive to Islam.

 

[8Lou1]

opening a qoran is like looking into a mirror. so if and when you see pedophiles and a demiurge id advise you to look inside and research where that comes from. some goes for female hate in the qoran. since you like the occult tech part i would advise you to look up books and qoran translation written by sam gerrans. you can read the translation of the qoran freely on the site quranite.com. his qoran is riddled with footnotes and can lead you from nowhere to anywhere and vise versa. its good research..

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you know i really like it that i give you so much joy while replying to your thread, still a conversation is more enjoyable. so since i gave you a proper answer to your very own question and you have only 4 or 5 posts on wf, i presume you are laughing your fears away and are preparing yourself for a nice discussion as to why you are so aroused in anger over a man who presumably married a 9 year old girl about 1500 (!) years ago and is a story in the hadith. so please DO have some more guts then a laughing emoji. its your topic, give it some honor.