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Mergen

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Hi, you can call me Mergen. I'm new to this and honestly, quite sceptical about it. But I am keeping an open mind to occult and esotericism because I wish to see if there's some truth to it, and if there is, I want to discover it with you all.
 

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Welcome to the forum!

Skepticism is good, it's a sign that you've got a good head on you. Descarte was a skeptic too and found that he could doubt every single part of his experience, other than the fact that something was thinking (if he went any further he'd be a Buddhist). It's good to be wary of mundane truths just as fiercely as magical ones.

There are a lot of scientific approaches to the esoteric, like Jungian or Parapsychology, hermeticism, or Jina (knowledge) yoga, if you want something firm to grab a hold of that isnt so far-fetched from the norm. Lots of philosophies too kind of just devolve into masked esotericism, like stuff by Heidegger & Sheldrake.

Regardless, follow your interests and passion, you'll find the truth out for yourself. I look forward to seeing what you learn and how you grow on the forum. Happy hunting!
 

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I'm new to this and honestly, quite sceptical about it...
I was also skeptical about "occultism" and "magick" stuff. I was an atheist-materialist. Very logical, very rational, didn't believe in spirits, nothing.

I understood enough to know that dabbling and toying around with occultism and magick, like reading books, doing melodramatic rituals in robes, and so on will always keep me skeptical and never challenge my atheist-materialists world views. Like taking a few hits of a joint, will never get you that hardcore high you're looking for. You have to go for the hardcore shit, the crack, the heroin.

I jumped straight into the hardcore shit. So occultism is like drugs. You have the softcore stuff like the books, the philosophy, the hermetic stuff, the magick stuff.

Then you have the hardcore shit, like Haitian Vodu, Santeria, Mayombe. You come from a logical and rational paradigm, and next thing you know 16 animals are sacrificed, there's blood all over you and everyone, everyone is drinking and dancing to drums for 6 hours into the night, smoking cigars, your drinking rum and shit, people are getting possessed by spirts left and right... and boom, you lose control of yourself in a trance, and get possessed.

Next day: you have a lot to think about; things that don't fit into an atheist-materialist paradigm. Like what possessed you? What possessed those people around you?

But... most people don't dive into the deep end from the get-go. They prefer to stay in the shallow end. Things will always be questionable in that shallow end of the pool.
 
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