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[Help] Overcoming the "Rot"

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Mars

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I have identified something in me, some might call this a "curse" others might say this is an "egregore". I don't know what it is exactly, but I can feel it, I understand how it works and can point to the feeling, yet I can not overcome it.

I named it the "Rot". Inspiration for it is taken from the german term "Zersetzung". Zersetzung was a psyops tactic used by the Stasi to completely destroy peoples mind from the inside, I link the wiki
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well this "rot" I have is doing similar. The feeling is located around my swadisthana (navel region) and vishudha chakra (neck) when its active.

In the swadisthana region it is a bland and dull feeling, like an upset stomach but it has an aura that beams around it. Like a field, as if it were blocking(?) This chakra(?) Like as if something would suddenly be inside my stomach like a stone.

And in the neck it is a distinct feeling of pulling down. As if something literally pulls the bones inside my neck down to the ground. Similar to the feeling you get shortly before falling asleep or if someone would hit you there hard.

It is pulling me down mentally and emotionally whenever I'm meant to create things too. And this is the most sinister aspect of it.

Either when working on myself or improving myself, or when I work on my career and business.

During work, when I'm about to reach a flow state it often catches me before I enter it. It pulls me down into a super negative state. It is linked to sexual energy or kundalini. Otherwise I could perhaps "march through it" but during this flow state it catches me.

Whenever I'm about to realise myself it strikes. I do notice that my thought patterns shift as well as my feelings. They become disgusting and I do feel disgusting. it's as if I'm suddenly in a completely different state of mind. And I suddenly hate everything I do. My work, working out, my goals, aspirations everything. Everything is suddenly the dumbest thing possible, bound for failure, and ridiculous. Despite it being actual things that work. Like it's turning everything around. It is super potent negativity.

And it pulls up from the depths the most negative moments or events I know. And pulls them over it. It kills my magic.

With meditation and similar I figured out many things that were the root for this, and was able to work on some, yet its effects remain. Because initially I thought this comes up because I need to work on something or resolve something. But this is going on for too long and I already worked through more than what normal people would.

I am currently not able to break through it. To strangle it like Hercules strangles the snake. It also controls aspect of sexuality and makes me want to seek out fucked up shit to masturbate to. And this is what gets me the most.

It is not making me want to have sex (like swadisthana should), but to masturbate specifically, like a little cuck. And I literally become like that stereotype of the disgusting basement dweller jerking it to hentai clips.

I don't get it. It is completely overriding everything and tells me "go on, look up [fucked up thing] and jerk to it"

I think it is like depression, but it comes in waves and peaks. Usually after meditation it subsides again. It's completely gone after it. it is like a migraine or a headache. Or as if I was being drugged for 1 or 2 hours.

And then it comes up again whenever I work on things that will make me successful or are related to realising myself. Creative work especially. I will write something, perhaps 500 words and then it comes up again. I edit something and it comes up again. I'm meant to do this or that related to my career and it comes up again. Mostly when I encounter like problems or when something doesn't work out or when I need to think on how to do certain things. it makes me want to rot away my time. Like depression. Despite me knowing I have better things to do. Hundreds of better things. It makes all of it seem pointless and the only thing that isnt is jerking off or self pitying me.

It is seriously fucking with me and I do not know what else to do. Perhaps anyone could help me please? Or knows what this is? Or had similar? Or has perhaps an idea based on different concepts?

It is just really really difficult to not get caught by it, because literally my entire self changes, I sometimes have troubles speaking and slurr, my thoughts are super negative and toxic and I get the intense desire to masturbate. My entire being is swapped. (No it isn't a stroke or anything medical) as if an aspect of me is suddenly gone.

I do have very potent sexual energy, thats why I posted it here. And I do use this energy for other things like transmuting it. Yet this shit comes up. This cant be a succubus right? Stealing my Vril energy or whatever. And I have this since ever. As a teen perhaps already. And it exclusively comes up when I do creative work or start to overthink.


Any help appreciated...
 

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well it is said that people with more then average sexual energy going on, have a nick for magick/witchcraft/spirituality.
you need to learn to set boundaries. you say meditation helps. you could set questes/questions for your self like a guided meditation. we also have a nofap topic on wf, so maybe read that and ask more questions there. i for myself eventually got over the idea that fapping is bad and i also found a spiritual path where nymphomania is actually spiritwork. i found that tru realizing that the fantasy during fap was like spirits using masks and learning who they actually are and then kicking their butts for trying to control me. ;)
 
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I have identified something in me, some might call this a "curse" others might say this is an "egregore". I don't know what it is exactly, but I can feel it, I understand how it works and can point to the feeling, yet I can not overcome it.

I named it the "Rot". Inspiration for it is taken from the german term "Zersetzung". Zersetzung was a psyops tactic used by the Stasi to completely destroy peoples mind from the inside, I link the wiki
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for anyone wanting to read up.

well this "rot" I have is doing similar. The feeling is located around my swadisthana (navel region) and vishudha chakra (neck) when its active.

In the swadisthana region it is a bland and dull feeling, like an upset stomach but it has an aura that beams around it. Like a field, as if it were blocking(?) This chakra(?) Like as if something would suddenly be inside my stomach like a stone.

And in the neck it is a distinct feeling of pulling down. As if something literally pulls the bones inside my neck down to the ground. Similar to the feeling you get shortly before falling asleep or if someone would hit you there hard.

It is pulling me down mentally and emotionally whenever I'm meant to create things too. And this is the most sinister aspect of it.

Either when working on myself or improving myself, or when I work on my career and business.

During work, when I'm about to reach a flow state it often catches me before I enter it. It pulls me down into a super negative state. It is linked to sexual energy or kundalini. Otherwise I could perhaps "march through it" but during this flow state it catches me.

Whenever I'm about to realise myself it strikes. I do notice that my thought patterns shift as well as my feelings. They become disgusting and I do feel disgusting. it's as if I'm suddenly in a completely different state of mind. And I suddenly hate everything I do. My work, working out, my goals, aspirations everything. Everything is suddenly the dumbest thing possible, bound for failure, and ridiculous. Despite it being actual things that work. Like it's turning everything around. It is super potent negativity.

And it pulls up from the depths the most negative moments or events I know. And pulls them over it. It kills my magic.

With meditation and similar I figured out many things that were the root for this, and was able to work on some, yet its effects remain. Because initially I thought this comes up because I need to work on something or resolve something. But this is going on for too long and I already worked through more than what normal people would.

I am currently not able to break through it. To strangle it like Hercules strangles the snake. It also controls aspect of sexuality and makes me want to seek out fucked up shit to masturbate to. And this is what gets me the most.

It is not making me want to have sex (like swadisthana should), but to masturbate specifically, like a little cuck. And I literally become like that stereotype of the disgusting basement dweller jerking it to hentai clips.

I don't get it. It is completely overriding everything and tells me "go on, look up [fucked up thing] and jerk to it"

I think it is like depression, but it comes in waves and peaks. Usually after meditation it subsides again. It's completely gone after it. it is like a migraine or a headache. Or as if I was being drugged for 1 or 2 hours.

And then it comes up again whenever I work on things that will make me successful or are related to realising myself. Creative work especially. I will write something, perhaps 500 words and then it comes up again. I edit something and it comes up again. I'm meant to do this or that related to my career and it comes up again. Mostly when I encounter like problems or when something doesn't work out or when I need to think on how to do certain things. it makes me want to rot away my time. Like depression. Despite me knowing I have better things to do. Hundreds of better things. It makes all of it seem pointless and the only thing that isnt is jerking off or self pitying me.

It is seriously fucking with me and I do not know what else to do. Perhaps anyone could help me please? Or knows what this is? Or had similar? Or has perhaps an idea based on different concepts?

It is just really really difficult to not get caught by it, because literally my entire self changes, I sometimes have troubles speaking and slurr, my thoughts are super negative and toxic and I get the intense desire to masturbate. My entire being is swapped. (No it isn't a stroke or anything medical) as if an aspect of me is suddenly gone.

I do have very potent sexual energy, thats why I posted it here. And I do use this energy for other things like transmuting it. Yet this shit comes up. This cant be a succubus right? Stealing my Vril energy or whatever. And I have this since ever. As a teen perhaps already. And it exclusively comes up when I do creative work or start to overthink.


Any help appreciated...
I've dealt with stuff like this before. This is almost identical to how I've felt though you went into a lot more detail.

There was one time was able to almost..Transmute(?) it through masturbation, (after climax it felt as if it went out like a snuffed flame imploding on itself and spiraling downwards until it vanished and i felt very light and free afterwards) but i haven't been able to replicate that. I never considered it to be linked to kundalini but I think it makes sense to assume it does considering the way it feels and how it behaves.

I still haven't really made a whole lot of progress with it. Its a hell of a thing to try to deal with. I feel it almost daily, when I'm feeling it. It will also come and go in waves. Sometimes I might go an entire week or longer without feeling it at all, and then I'll feel it daily for what seems like a couple weeks.

I definitely resonate with the "stone" feeling you're describing, it feels a lot like that for me as well. Mine seems to be more closely centered on my solar plexus rather than the sacral. I feel like i also get what your saying about the neck, although mine feels more centered on the throat and I have the sensation of almost needing to vomit rather than what you're describing, so there's small differences but what you're describing definitely sounds very similar to what I experience.
I also have a very high sex drive so I wonder how common this is among people with high sex drives.
Sorry I couldn't really provide any insight, but at least we both know its not an isolated incident.
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well it is said that people with more then average sexual energy going on, have a nick for magick/witchcraft/spirituality.
you need to learn to set boundaries. you say meditation helps. you could set questes/questions for your self like a guided meditation. we also have a nofap topic on wf, so maybe read that and ask more questions there. i for myself eventually got over the idea that fapping is bad and i also found a spiritual path where nymphomania is actually spiritwork. i found that tru realizing that the fantasy during fap was like spirits using masks and learning who they actually are and then kicking their butts for trying to control me. ;)
Interesting addition, talking about getting over the idea that fapping is bad. my childhood had some very heavy beliefs of shame being put into my head around my sexuality, so there may be something to that. Now that i think about it, there's def been some times where instead of feeling shameful about it i'd just brush it off and just let myself feel okay with my sexual expression rather than beating myself up for it and it would feel VERY different, if i could even feel it at all.
 

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Almost seems like this is written for Roma to reply. I know you don't like the Hebrew based LBRP @Mars but have you tried doing something similar maybe based on Germanic deities? Likely. But.
Darkness is always driven out by light. Form a cross of radiant light and turn it into a swastika, whirling and breaking through / cutting off the Rot. After a significant amount of rotations (or a number relevant to you) contract the doubled solar rune into your heart.
 

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Thanks for the replies so far!

It's not necessarily that I feel like masturbation is bad, but rather an energy that should be expressed through sex or with another one.
I know from Tantric practices that this "hornyness" is like some form of magic that can and should not be dispelled through masturbation.

I see masturbation as something that like isolates you from others. As sex is something that is enjoyed with others and a social element. But with masturbation I literally stay in my mind or masturbate to whatever stuff that technically isn't real

I never considered it to be linked to kundalini but I think it makes sense to assume it does considering the way it feels and how it behaves.

I read that someone made himself horny on purpose to get the Kundalini to rise. So I figured it must be similar.


Issue really is that I don't have a girlfriend or someone to have sex with. And perhaps there is this base energy or desire that is not being satisfied and now shows itself as disgustingly as this. But when I don't have someone but want someone I should use this energy to "get" someone instead of just accepting it by jerking it out. Either working out, or talking up more women, becoming more assertive or becoming magnetic and "dreamy" to be around with. I don't want to get an escort or similar, that's just fake sex and I don't want to give this energy to someone who isn't really connected to me.


i found that tru realizing that the fantasy during fap was like spirits using masks and learning who they actually are and then kicking their butts for trying to control me. ;)

This is interesting because I have somewhat telling fantasies. I used them to figure out what I need and what needs healing in my life.


Form a cross of radiant light and turn it into a swastika, whirling and breaking through / cutting off the Rot. After a significant amount of rotations (or a number relevant to you) contract the doubled solar rune into your heart

This is great ^^
 
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