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Book Discussion Question - Liber Null & Psycho Naut (Peter J. Carroll)

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On page 57 of Peter J. Carroll's edition of Liber Null & Psychonaut, it states For those of you who have read it, I would like your opinion on the following passage:

"The acts of the black magician will bind the magician’s Kia to earth for-ever, but magicians fearful of the loss of their previous occult learning may strongly visualize the sigil of chaos shown in figure 7 at the moment of their death."

What does this mean exactly? Please note that I'm still very new to this and currently learning a lot. Thank you.
 
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Qi, Chi, Kia, Ka, Ba, all terms for the spirit and soul, the life force, the energy filled in your being. The energy left after your death as necromancers can attest to with the freshly buried and exhumed.
There was, in LaVeys paradigm, the choice to remember or not, after asking for a new incarnation to get it right (whether you repeat the same mistakes or not).
However, the biblical statement, if you believe it is "man dies but once, and after that the judgement". Iow, its a 50/50 split on if its one life to live or not. So find a way to unbind yourself. You could paint the sigil on your deathbed ceiling and gaze at your moment I guess.
Ive worked Mortuary Transport before, of all types and age and gender. Death is real, as is the Angel of Death from the expressions I witnessed. Few went peacefully into the good night.
 

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Peter Carroll borrowed the term "Kia" from Austin Osman Spare but uses it differently to mean an individual's consciousness/ life-force.
Qi, Chi, Kia, Ka, Ba, all terms for the spirit and soul, the life force, the energy filled in your being.

Qi/Chi has been used this way but it is usually a bit more abstract or at least less personal; in Chinese use terms like hun, po, or shen seem to be more used for individual "souls," while qi is more like a life energy that congeals or dissipates to varying degrees. In the Confucian philosophers it is a cosmic principle sort of analogous to "matter" or "energy".
 
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