Regarding Martinism

[frater_shaul]

Hello,
I’ve been studying and practicing grimoires on my own for quite a while now(6y+), experimenting a lot along the way, mixing things, adapting methods, basically a Chaos Magic approach.
I’ve also done quite a bit of energy work and some pathworking.
At one point I joined AMORC, but it feels a bit too “New Age” for me, and I don’t really connect with it, even though I’m still technically a member.
Recently, I came across some Martinist texts (not the AMORC version), and something about it resonated with me. That got me thinking…
Practicing magic without a solid belief system sometimes feels like something is missing. Since I grew up in a Catholic family, I feel like I still have some connection to that egregore.
So my question is: could Martinism be a good path for me(who already practices and have good results)? Does it offer practices and structure that could give more depth or grounding to what I’m already doing?

Thank you in advance.

 

[Diamond-otherkin]

I have no answers for you but I'm also interested if anyone has feedback on that. Also could you explain a bit more details about AMORC and the "New Age" feel you got? I'm potentially interested in them too.

 

[Firetree]

Hello,
I’ve been studying and practicing grimoires on my own for quite a while now(6y+), experimenting a lot along the way, mixing things, adapting methods, basically a Chaos Magic approach.
I’ve also done quite a bit of energy work and some pathworking.
At one point I joined AMORC, but it feels a bit too “New Age” for me, and I don’t really connect with it, even though I’m still technically a member.
Recently, I came across some Martinist texts (not the AMORC version), and something about it resonated with me. That got me thinking…
Practicing magic without a solid belief system sometimes feels like something is missing

Yes. At a certain stage of practice one should have that , if not have it at the beginning - if you do it may change and develop through practice and learning . In my tradition it was known as 'Your magical view of the Universe ' . - note ; not the view but your view . It is an overall framework and holds internal logic and reason and explains how things work and how you fit into it . Each has their own and its validity is based on internal consistencies , logic, reason ... the usual issues .

. Since I grew up in a Catholic family, I feel like I still have some connection to that egregore.
So my question is: could Martinism be a good path for me(who already practices and have good results)? Does it offer practices and structure that could give more depth or grounding to what I’m already doing?

Try being one of those ' evaluators ' of one's ' magical theory of the Universe ' and look at Martinism and see if you think it stands up on its own merits . If it does then try it and see if its in line with your particular 'mode' . The answer then is ; it could ... but you are the one that will find if its a good path for you or not .

Thank you in advance.

 

[frater_shaul]

I have no answers for you but I'm also interested if anyone has feedback on that. Also could you explain a bit more details about AMORC and the "New Age" feel you got? I'm potentially interested in them too.

For sure.
A few things that I've notice related to AMORC which makes me think that it is "new age": it's avoidance of theological or metaphysical commitment with blending of multiple traditions without strict lineage constraints, strong overlap with "self-help frameworks" instead of inner alchemical death-and-rebirth, emphasis on energy, vibration, mental influence instead of theurgy, avoidance of ambiguity, paradox, or any "dangerous knowledge"...
Overall AMORC replaces initiation with instruction, theurgy with introspection and tradition with a filtered synthetic amalgamation of many things. Maybe not completely new age but new age enough to me. (I am still a member tho)

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Try being one of those ' evaluators ' of one's ' magical theory of the Universe ' and look at Martinism and see if you think it stands up on its own merits . If it does then try it and see if its in line with your particular 'mode' . The answer then is ; it could ... but you are the one that will find if its a good path for you or not .

Yeah, it makes sense. Although it's hard to see if it fits my magic view of universe, using your terms, without properly joining and practicing. Perhaps I'll give it a try, as you suggested.

Thank you.