Vaccine

[MarkDM]

But at least you can choose not to take the jab.

but it’s tyranny nonetheless

Can't believe I actually found someone talking about this on here. Was wondering if there's things I can do as a newbie that might help remove the contents of the jab or something. I was fooled into taking it and once you know what's in it there's no going back. Really worried about it for the last 6 months ish.

 

[Yazata]

I moved this into a new thread because it has zero to do with the original.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Can't believe I actually found someone talking about this on here. Was wondering if there's things I can do as a newbie that might help remove the contents of the jab or something. I was fooled into taking it and once you know what's in it there's no going back. Really worried about it for the last 6 months ish.

You're more likely to suffer from the effects of nocebo than you are from concrete side-effects from any vaccine.

 

[St. Stephen]

Can't believe I actually found someone talking about this on here. Was wondering if there's things I can do as a newbie that might help remove the contents of the jab or something. I was fooled into taking it and once you know what's in it there's no going back. Really worried about it for the last 6 months ish.

There's a bunch of vitamin/supplement protocols people have concocted and claim it will flush most of it out. A lot of them include NAC. The more you worry about it and raise your stress levels, the more of a burden/load you put on your cardiovascular system so be aware of that.

 

[MarkDM]

There's a bunch of vitamin/supplement protocols people have concocted and claim it will flush most of it out. A lot of them include NAC. The more you worry about it and raise your stress levels, the more of a burden/load you put on your cardiovascular system so be aware of that.

Couldn't have said it better. A VERY wise person indeed told me a similar thing that the negativity and stress of focusing on it makes it 10x worse than if I didn't think of it.

 

[Xenophon]

Couldn't have said it better. A VERY wise person indeed told me a similar thing that the negativity and stress of focusing on it makes it 10x worse than if I didn't thi

What your granddaddy called gumption and grit gets called 'denial' now. Courage is stamped "toxic." But you'd be amazed at what studied contempt of a so-called threat can do.

 

[silencewaits]

Was wondering if there's things I can do as a newbie that might help remove the contents of the jab or something.

No. Unless you are one of the few people who had an adverse reaction, you are alright. People can have adverse reactions to all types of vaccines.

 

[Xenophon]

No. Unless you are one of the few people who had an adverse reaction, you are alright. People can have adverse reactions to all types of vaccines.

I have an adverse reaction to being told to get vaccines. Especially against a crisis played up to induce fear as global discivilization's regnant ethos..

Quoth Goethe, "Napoleon visited soldiers with plague (in Egypt) to show the man who could vanquish fear was proof too against plague...I have proved to my own satisfaction that fear induces susceptibility..." (Conversations With Goethe, Eckermann)

 

[silencewaits]

I have an adverse reaction to being told to get vaccines. Especially against a crisis played up to induce fear as global discivilization's regnant ethos..

Quoth Goethe, "Napoleon visited soldiers with plague (in Egypt) to show the man who could vanquish fear was proof too against plague...I have proved to my own satisfaction that fear induces susceptibility..." (Conversations With Goethe, Eckermann)

I'm unvaccinated when it comes to Covid-19, but all my other vaccinations are caught up. There is a vaccine in development that is intended to be a one-and-done for all manner of coronoviruses - not just SARS-CoV-2. I might pick that one up.

 

[MarkDM]

What your granddaddy called gumption and grit gets called 'denial' now. Courage is stamped "toxic." But you'd be amazed at what studied contempt of a so-called threat can do.

Sounds good. Pretty genius I might add, that conquering fear itself would help prevent catching any disease. Never thought of it that way. So ignore it all, have no fear; prevent it from stealing my energy.

 

[silencewaits]

Sounds good. Pretty genius I might add, that conquering fear itself would help prevent catching any disease. Never thought of it that way. So ignore it all, have no fear; prevent it from stealing my energy.

Viruses and other pathogens don't care if you fear them or not.

 

[Xenophon]

Viruses and other pathogens don't care if you fear them or not.

General Julian Hatcher had some interesting cases from the Moro Insurrection in the Phillipines c 1900. He said that "civilized" American troopers were more likely to die from gunshots that the "ignorant" Moros not only did not die from, but kept fighting having suffered. They did not visualize clearly all the terrible things that certainly had happened inside them.

I tend to think of virus like that gunshot. I may not have any choice in original infection. My attitude afterwards might well have a good deal to do with whether I live or die. Folks in remote places, like Alaska's bush where I spent some years, tend to shrug off medical crises with a certain admirable aplomb.

 

[jkeller293]

You're more likely to suffer from the effects of nocebo than you are from concrete side-effects from any vaccine.

Thats a great point. I agree with this. Ive experienced some physical things relating to the nocebo like excema which i noticed would clear up when i would change my negative thinking.

I never took the covid vaccine as i was highly skeptical about how aggressive my government was promoting it. If my government never has stressed healthy habits, i see this as a disregard that they really care — that and the fact my government allows poison in food never taking action for eliminating that. Also the fact that pfizer has the largest criminal fine in history so i have zero trust in such companies dictating what I should take.

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Thats a great point. I agree with this. Ive experienced some physical things relating to the nocebo like excema which i noticed would clear up when i would change my negative thinking.

I never took the covid vaccine as i was highly skeptical about how aggressive my government was promoting it. If my government never has stressed healthy habits, i see this as a disregard that they really care — that and the fact my government allows poison in food never taking action for eliminating that. Also the fact that pfizer has the largest criminal fine in history so i have zero trust in such companies dictating what I should take.

I did have covid one time but it was nothing like it was promoted in the media. I also had the strong belief that all that was overhyped and not true what they were saying about it — even when i did get it.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

I did have covid one time but it was nothing like it was promoted in the media. I also had the strong belief that all that was overhyped and not true what they were saying about it — even when i did get it.

People's symptoms were variable. You were clearly one of the lucky ones. I had it twice, but because I'd been vaccinated it was no worse than a mild flu the first time, and the second time I didn't really have any symptoms at all.

 

[jkeller293]

Thats a great point. I agree with this. Ive experienced some physical things relating to the nocebo like excema which i noticed would clear up when i would change my negative thinking.

I never took the covid vaccine as i was highly skeptical about how aggressive my government was promoting it. If my government never has stressed healthy habits, i see this as a disregard that they really care — that and the fact my government allows poison in food never taking action for eliminating that. Also the fact that pfizer has the largest criminal fine in history so i have zero trust in such companies dictating what I should take.

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I did have covid one time but it was nothing like it was promoted in the media. I also had the strong belief that all that was overhyped and not true what they were saying about it — even when i did get it.

This was only when i visited california for vacation when i was climbing a mountain did i start feeling symptoms after being physically exhausted.

The entire time during the outbreak i ignored all the CDCs recommendations. I saw the cloth mask and social distancing as complete nonsense for protection. As i have observed people still got covid even doing these precautions. Im a big believer in having exposure to things rather than hiding — thats not to say you should expose yourself to anything, but some things i believe you need to stimulate the immune system so that it opperates properily.

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People's symptoms were variable. You were clearly one of the lucky ones. I had it twice, but because I'd been vaccinated it was no worse than a mild flu the first time, and the second time I didn't really have any symptoms at all.

So i live in the USA and i noticed politicans were publically showing they were getting a vaccine. What i seen was that the footage was always off to the side and you would never see a needle prick their arm at all. That was my first sign to question. I do not know if i am right here but i suspected the whole thing to be a big money grab by pharma companies. The people i personally seen at most risk were older people, but in the USA they started to be agressive with saying children need it which i disagreed with.

Post automatically merged: Apr 15, 2025

This was only when i visited california for vacation when i was climbing a mountain did i start feeling symptoms after being physically exhausted.

The entire time during the outbreak i ignored all the CDCs recommendations. I saw the cloth mask and social distancing as complete nonsense for protection. As i have observed people still got covid even doing these precautions. Im a big believer in having exposure to things rather than hiding — thats not to say you should expose yourself to anything, but some things i believe you need to stimulate the immune system so that it opperates properily.

Post automatically merged: Apr 15, 2025

So i live in the USA and i noticed politicans were publically showing they were getting a vaccine. What i seen was that the footage was always off to the side and you would never see a needle prick their arm at all. That was my first sign to question. I do not know if i am right here but i suspected the whole thing to be a big money grab by pharma companies. The people i personally seen at most risk were older people, but in the USA they started to be agressive with saying children need it which i disagreed with.

And i have alot of distrust for all politicans in the spotlight due to one aspect i know about in politics. Politics to me is about public image and i know many of them have no problem living a fake public life just signal they are a type of person to their supporters. Since i clearily see this especially with how they politicans flip flop what they say over decade being in government — i will never trust their recommendations.

Post automatically merged: Apr 15, 2025

This was only when i visited california for vacation when i was climbing a mountain did i start feeling symptoms after being physically exhausted.

The entire time during the outbreak i ignored all the CDCs recommendations. I saw the cloth mask and social distancing as complete nonsense for protection. As i have observed people still got covid even doing these precautions. Im a big believer in having exposure to things rather than hiding — thats not to say you should expose yourself to anything, but some things i believe you need to stimulate the immune system so that it opperates properily.

Post automatically merged: Apr 15, 2025

So i live in the USA and i noticed politicans were publically showing they were getting a vaccine. What i seen was that the footage was always off to the side and you would never see a needle prick their arm at all. That was my first sign to question. I do not know if i am right here but i suspected the whole thing to be a big money grab by pharma companies. The people i personally seen at most risk were older people, but in the USA they started to be agressive with saying children need it which i disagreed with.

Post automatically merged: Apr 15, 2025

And i have alot of distrust for all politicans in the spotlight due to one aspect i know about in politics. Politics to me is about public image and i know many of them have no problem living a fake public life just signal they are a type of person to their supporters. Since i clearily see this especially with how they politicans flip flop what they say over decade being in government — i will never trust their recommendations.

If someone leading a health department is obese for example, they have no right to promote health to me if they cannot practice good habits themself.

 

[Mannimarco]

Viruses and other pathogens don't care if you fear them or not.

That may be true, if the virus has no consciousness at all. I haven't actually looked into it. But the human subconscious/unconscious, and immune system, care very, very, much about whether the conscious mind fears a virus or not, and manifests effects accordingly. Other factors may come into play as well, but the manifestation of our own beliefs is always part of the outcome.

 

[Mrknshtkaah]

You're more likely to suffer from the effects of nocebo than you are from concrete side-effects from any vaccine.

I am a 69 year old male with mild to moderate COPD from stupidly smoking cigarettes during my ignorant trying-to-look-cool-like-my-stupid-friends youth (and for decades thereafter, until I finally managed to break the insidious addiction). Covid could well have resulted in an intubated death for me, so I got all the vaccines and all the boosters that have been offered (no Pfizer; I've gone Moderna all the way). Aside from a funky feeling for a day or so after the jabs, I've noticed no ill effects, and if I ever HAVE contracted Covid, the vaccines and boosters have rendered it so mild as to be unnoticeable.

It's hard to be completely errorless on the fly during the fog-of-war phase of a burgeoning pandemic. It has since been found that Covid posed practically no threat to healthy youngsters between the ages of five, when the immune system kicks in, and the late teens (although more to their parents when they came home with it, and much more to their grandparents if they visited them). But I can remember one hilarious contradiction: we were told to cough into our elbows, not our hands, and then told not to shake hands in greeting, but to bump those very same elbows together instead...:~S

 

[Robert Ramsay]

I am a 69 year old male with mild to moderate COPD from stupidly smoking cigarettes during my ignorant trying-to-look-cool-like-my-stupid-friends youth (and for decades thereafter, until I finally managed to break the insidious addiction). Covid could well have resulted in an intubated death for me, so I got all the vaccines and all the boosters that have been offered (no Pfizer; I've gone Moderna all the way). Aside from a funky feeling for a day or so after the jabs, I've noticed no ill effects, and if I ever HAVE contracted Covid, the vaccines and boosters have rendered it so mild as to be unnoticeable.

It's hard to be completely errorless on the fly during the fog-of-war phase of a burgeoning pandemic. It has since been found that Covid posed practically no threat to healthy youngsters between the ages of five, when the immune system kicks in, and the late teens (although more to their parents when they came home with it, and much more to their grandparents if they visited them). But I can remember one hilarious contradiction: we were told to cough into our elbows, not our hands, and then told not to shake hands in greeting, but to bump those very same elbows together instead...:~S

I got Moderna purely because I was in the second wave of vaccinations after nurses and very old people, plus the fact that Pfizer had a much shorter shelf life.

One of the most dangerous things about Covid is that it could screw up our immune systems. We actually have two immune systems; a simpler, more primitive one that basically just raises your temperature to try and slow down any infection, and the second, more sophisicated one that creates antibodies to latch directly onto the invaders.

A lot of people early on got very ill and died because that first immune system created what is known as a cytosine storm. Basically, its reaction was so violent to Covid that it overwhelmed the body - an autoimmune reaction to the virus.

 

[MarkDM]

I am a 69 year old male with mild to moderate COPD from stupidly smoking cigarettes during my ignorant trying-to-look-cool-like-my-stupid-friends youth (and for decades thereafter, until I finally managed to break the insidious addiction). Covid could well have resulted in an intubated death for me, so I got all the vaccines and all the boosters that have been offered (no Pfizer; I've gone Moderna all the way). Aside from a funky feeling for a day or so after the jabs, I've noticed no ill effects, and if I ever HAVE contracted Covid, the vaccines and boosters have rendered it so mild as to be unnoticeable.

It's hard to be completely errorless on the fly during the fog-of-war phase of a burgeoning pandemic. It has since been found that Covid posed practically no threat to healthy youngsters between the ages of five, when the immune system kicks in, and the late teens (although more to their parents when they came home with it, and much more to their grandparents if they visited them). But I can remember one hilarious contradiction: we were told to cough into our elbows, not our hands, and then told not to shake hands in greeting, but to bump those very same elbows together instead...:~S

Another contradiction is that they openly admit that people with COVID have like a 99% survival rate, and then make it mandatory to some degree for everyone with a job to get a vaccine one way or another.

 

[Mrknshtkaah]

Some people are in more mortal danger than others; I was one of the high risk people, due to age and COPD. Playing Russian roulette with a nasty respiratory infection is not a good idea for someone such as myself - too many full chambers in the gun. And although the vaccinated can still contract Covid, they contract it at a much lower rate, and therefore are far less likely to pass it on to someone for whom it is far more lethal. It's a brother's keeper kinda thing. If, because I didn't choose to vaccinate, I caught it and then infected someone with it who subsequently died, I'd feel terrible; it would prey upon my conscience and eat at me from the inside, and I think most decent people would feel the same way. And people with autoimmune disorders are both more susceptible to terminal consequences and unable, due to those very disorders, to themselves be vaccinated. The same goes for those who are taking meds to suppress bodily rejections to transplants.