[Opinion] What is necessary in magick and what is extra?

[OberonFromTheHills]

From my research and experiences, i came up with the lists below :

Necessary to do magick:

Light trance/deep focus

Energy raising.

A clear picture of the intent

The feeling if it.

Created a pattern/rhythm.

Releasing it.

Not necessary but very useful :

One focal point. ( a sigil, a candle, a picture, a glass of water, incense...)

A mantra/incantation. (to help to create the pattern)

Role playing. (the fun part of it !!!! Seeing yourself as Aphrodite herself, a soldier.... It basically helps to shape the energy and believing in that you do)

Banishing. (before and after.... To deepen the focus and help releasing the energy)

Extra :

Casting a circle/sphere/sacred space. (it basically help to hold the energy but you can find other ways to do so.) ((unless you perform highlightly ritualised form of magick like Golden Dawn)

Tools. ( the help to direct/hold the energy but are not necessary to do it)

Elemental representations. ( they help to feel their presence but you can directly call them throw you)

Invocation/Evocation of spirits.

What do you think?

 

[Ziran]

What do you think?

There's only 1 rule, assuming rules exist:

"This above all. To thine own self be true."

Necessary to do magick:

Know your self. All the rest are crutches. Good, useful, helping crutches. But they're not needed.

Lacking knowledge of your self in all its forms, success will be, at best, inconsistent. Luck not technique.

Because almost everyone has some true knowledge of the self, almost everyone can be taught to successfully cast a spell, work a ritual, craft a talisman, etc. But they probably won't understand how it worked or why.

In this case the individual doesn't know that knowledge of self is needed, and the rest are "helpers". But if the "helpers" are chosen thoughtfully, then, the individual aspirant will end up working magic which is in harmony with their individual self. Preferences and inclinations are implicit "knowledge of the self".

 

[stalkinghyena]

Necessary to do magick:

Absolute commitment and extreme endurance.
They usually go together.

Not necessary but very useful :

Peace and quiet.
I mean, it would be nice to have in most instances, but focus of intent in noisy places and distracting environs could apply to the above necessity.

Extra :

Self justification.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

From the Graeco-Roman papyrus: "Inferior magic requires tools. Superior magic requires only words."

Of course, that doesn't mention the incredible amount of work you have to do on your brain and possibly body to get to that point. As @stalkinghyena said: "Absolute commitment."

 

[beardedeldridge]

Depends on the person, where they are magically speaking, and what they want to do but generally speaking to make something happen on purpose:

Necessary:
-Know what you want to happen
-The Will to make it happen

Useful:
-All the extra we add on: occult knowledge/rituals/tools/etc… (these may get moved to the necessary list depending on the practitioner, what they are trying to accomplish, inertia, forces/will aligned against their desired outcome, etc)

Extra:
-I like stalkinghyena’s answer above

-Eld

 

[Anziel_Merkaba]

I don't really have much to add that hasn't already been said but The All is the Mind. If you can imagine it and feel it to be possible, then there is nothing that can stop you from making it real.

Even with mundane things, if you can't imagine yourself doing it, you won't be able to do it... or more specifically a person can only accomplish what they are capable of seeing themselves accomplish. If you can't imagine yourself getting off your ass and working out, you'll never be able to get off your ass and work out (just as an example).

 

[jkeller293]

I would say first a strong focus on yourself first before doing anything. Specifically training the mind to be able to focus so that it becomes more of a automatic process rather than a forced process. Possibly dedicating yourself to a practice unrelated to magic but requires discipline like bodybuilding, having a very specific healthy diet, etc.

So i would say most important is control over your mind.

Little side note: what i found interesting about the yogic culture is that they have a focus on the body before the mind, maybe this may be the truth of having a strong foundation for magic as our body is the vessel used along with mind in ceremonial magic.

 

[MorganBlack]

I know we like playing with all the goodies, but all you really need to make things happen is your imagination, and an inner sense - the feeling - that something is so.. and so it is.

No runes, LBRPs, colorful chi balls, visualizing energy ( unless it really speaks to you and you have conditioned your subconscious / nephesh to respond to them). Also no daimons nor tools needed. You can do it by yourself.

And no occult grind required either. No need to twist yourself into a pretzel, or stare at a spot on the wall for hours. Neville would "manifest" using his New Thought techniques while relaxing in an easy chair after a glass of wine.

For years I thought all that "new age"stuff was ridiculous. I was a hardcore goetic magican. Look at my furrows of worry! So I was shocked at how gobsmackingly effective Neville's Law of Assumption really is. Half-joking here, but after having three objective"manifest" within a week, or month for what seemed pretty major, I was like... daaamn, I guess we really do live in the Matrix.

I highly recommend Neville Goddard's writings and Mitch Horowitz for more details (below).

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I also prefer to stay far away from the Law of Attraction folks and all their talk of "vibes", energy. Use if it moves you, but for me it's just clutter junking the place up with unnecessary additions to what is a pretty straightforward process.

This stuff I classify as Mageia (magic) , the Hermetic Highway from the Nous to reality by way of your imagination and sense of inner meaning. It differs from Geotia, the sub-lunar operations,with daimons , often called 'sorcery.'

This stuff is not that, but I wish I had taken it more seriously sooner.