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Phenomenal stuff!
(pun intended.)
Magician Wren Collier and paranormal author Joshua Cutchin chat with goetic / solomonic magican Douglas Bachelor on his podcast 'What Magic is This.'
Highly recommended. Don't walk, run, watch, and enjoy.
This video was so shockingly close to my own operative meta-model, like Wren , I was both elated and somewhat disappointed I was not being as original as I thought. There were similar models with Grant Morrison's Hyper-sigils and horrible Land's Hypersition, but nobody I knew of had brought them down to connect them with their own practice of the evocation of spirits, or so I thought. Whelp, nice to have company. Grumble grumble.
Just to be clear : this model gives away once you are face to face with a demon, or other spirit. So beware confusing the levels. But I'd also say there is always an element of the story in all our encounters. After all, the universe is made of stories.
Quickly, i just want to add, it is also very bad manners to then, say , go to Vodou folks, nd go all left-brain, Reddit schizo-autistic style and 'explain' to them "Oh, your lwa are just fourth wall phantoms." Like you have it all figured out from your armchair. The point it to alchemize this so as to contain all things, all experiences, into something so much bigger.
See also
About an hour in Douglas Bachelor made a comment about the use of belief in magic where I was just nodding, like , "Fuck. About. Damn. Time ."
Speaking about the grims here, but it may work with other types of occultism.
Everyone these days thinks of belief itself as the primary causal agent of magic. See all that modern Wishcraft stuff.
And that the lack of enough belief as being the reason for one's failure. So they sell you more spiritual grind as the solution, more courses, to help you believe harder.
Fuck belief. Belief has nothing do with it. Well it does, but not how we think about it.
We believe what we do.
A lot of this casual stuff of spirit evocation takes place in our hind-brain and instinctual level, in our body, Not our chatty left-brain where our ego and our surface level opinions live.
I have been saying this for years. Some modern magic and the stupid kinds of New Thought kind of fucked everybody up.
You don't have to believe shit for it to work.
Placebo studies show the sugar pill will still work even if you know you are taking a chemically inert substance.
Just the ritual act of taking the pill makes it come alive.
So we no longer have totally mind-fuck ourselves into some whacked out hyper-religous weirdo. Or make up progressively stupider and stupider religions to be part of.
All you have to do is throw yourself into it.
Take the grims at face value. Well, about 80% face value.
Be a kid again and have some fun.
Serious, serious fun.
Soon you will have enough theophanic, manifesation, and/or pratical sorcery result experiences all your own you will move beyond belief or non-belief into something that is more of a combiantion of them both, and neither of them.
(pun intended.)
Magician Wren Collier and paranormal author Joshua Cutchin chat with goetic / solomonic magican Douglas Bachelor on his podcast 'What Magic is This.'
Highly recommended. Don't walk, run, watch, and enjoy.
This video was so shockingly close to my own operative meta-model, like Wren , I was both elated and somewhat disappointed I was not being as original as I thought. There were similar models with Grant Morrison's Hyper-sigils and horrible Land's Hypersition, but nobody I knew of had brought them down to connect them with their own practice of the evocation of spirits, or so I thought. Whelp, nice to have company. Grumble grumble.
Just to be clear : this model gives away once you are face to face with a demon, or other spirit. So beware confusing the levels. But I'd also say there is always an element of the story in all our encounters. After all, the universe is made of stories.
Quickly, i just want to add, it is also very bad manners to then, say , go to Vodou folks, nd go all left-brain, Reddit schizo-autistic style and 'explain' to them "Oh, your lwa are just fourth wall phantoms." Like you have it all figured out from your armchair. The point it to alchemize this so as to contain all things, all experiences, into something so much bigger.
See also
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About an hour in Douglas Bachelor made a comment about the use of belief in magic where I was just nodding, like , "Fuck. About. Damn. Time ."
Speaking about the grims here, but it may work with other types of occultism.
Everyone these days thinks of belief itself as the primary causal agent of magic. See all that modern Wishcraft stuff.
And that the lack of enough belief as being the reason for one's failure. So they sell you more spiritual grind as the solution, more courses, to help you believe harder.
Fuck belief. Belief has nothing do with it. Well it does, but not how we think about it.
We believe what we do.
A lot of this casual stuff of spirit evocation takes place in our hind-brain and instinctual level, in our body, Not our chatty left-brain where our ego and our surface level opinions live.
I have been saying this for years. Some modern magic and the stupid kinds of New Thought kind of fucked everybody up.
You don't have to believe shit for it to work.
Placebo studies show the sugar pill will still work even if you know you are taking a chemically inert substance.
Just the ritual act of taking the pill makes it come alive.
So we no longer have totally mind-fuck ourselves into some whacked out hyper-religous weirdo. Or make up progressively stupider and stupider religions to be part of.
All you have to do is throw yourself into it.
Take the grims at face value. Well, about 80% face value.
Be a kid again and have some fun.
Serious, serious fun.
Soon you will have enough theophanic, manifesation, and/or pratical sorcery result experiences all your own you will move beyond belief or non-belief into something that is more of a combiantion of them both, and neither of them.
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