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[Opinion] Werewolf Rites with Lilith and Hecate?

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As the title states im curious about werewolf rites involving Lilith and or Hecate. What peeked my interest in the subject is a document called Rite of the Were wolf. I must confess I have yet to delve much into it.
My question is does anyone have experience with doing said rites or similar with the aforementioned Goddesses? If so could you share some advice and or tips about what to expect and or do during said path working.
 

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Ngl I cant decide if I want to be the werewolf or the lillith in that scenario. Maybe like switching? But that's some super kinky stuff. Is there also a rite where you watch them both from the cuck chair? Thats some advanced tantra then.
 

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As the title states im curious about werewolf rites involving Lilith and or Hecate. What peeked my interest in the subject is a document called Rite of the Were wolf. I must confess I have yet to delve much into it.
My question is does anyone have experience with doing said rites or similar with the aforementioned Goddesses? If so could you share some advice and or tips about what to expect and or do during said path working.
For clarification, are you referencing the Michael W. Ford document entitled "A Rite of the Werewolf - And the Infernal Witches Sabbat"? That is the title/author I found off of annas and will read since I too am fascinated by werewolves.
 

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I think that werewolves are connected to Odinn rather than Lilith. I question her connection to the Vampires too, as it seems that with her people work vampirism but then move to demons, that are her thing way more.

If I would want to get into lycanthropy and werewolves, I would research norse resources and berserkers rather than Lilith.
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There is also Jotun which that rode the wolf, having reins from serpents, if you prefer connecting with female. There are more options in Norse legendarium for begins connected with the wolves and werewolves.
 
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I'm not familiar with werewolf rites to either Hecate or Lilith, although it isn't out of the question that they may exist. I lean towards Morell's inclination that werewolves are more solidly in the realm of Odin's jurisdiction, although there are plenty of lycanthropic traditions. I think it is important to think about a "wolf's" indexical nature and how it relates to the ecology of the world. I know that there has been some interesting scholarship pertaining to a potential lycanthropic cult in Arcaida, in particular a cult ot 'Zeus Lykaion'. It is generally well established that amongst many early European cultures there seems to be some kind of fraternal wolf cult. I would 1. Look into what Hecate and Lilith represent as beings, 2. look into the archeological and mythical record to see if there is any wolf or predator adjacent cult, and 3. seek personal gnosis through working with each entity. Another thing I try to keep in mind is that throughout the many years, entities have evolved and perhaps even lost some original context. Zeus Lykaion is a great example. Attached is a video looking into this potential cult of Zeus Lykaion.

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As the title states im curious about werewolf rites involving Lilith and or Hecate. What peeked my interest in the subject is a document called Rite of the Were wolf. I must confess I have yet to delve much into it.
My question is does anyone have experience with doing said rites or similar with the aforementioned Goddesses? If so could you share some advice and or tips about what to expect and or do during said path working.
WARNING: the following contains information that some may find disturbing, regarding the mistreatment of animals!

From the text of the Torah itself, Isaiah 31:14 says the following (this is my rough transliteration and translation):

"u'Page'shu Tziyyim et Iyyim w'Seir al re'ehu yikra ahk sham hirgiah Lilit u'matze'ah lah manoahk."

"And shall mingle/dwell the beasts of the wilderness/desert, the Jackals/Wolves, the wild goat, and to its companion/consort shall cry out/call forth, and so there shall repose/find ease Lilit/Creatures of the Night and find for herself a place of rest."

The text connotes an association of Jackals/Wolves with Lilit. There are texts that associate her with the symbol of the black dog. In ancient times and sometimes modern, regrettably, dogs were treated very poorly, abused and sacrificed, likely due to this superstition finding its way into various religions and mystical practices. One can look into the Roman Supplicia Canum, Lupercalia (the derivation of leather straps from dog's and goat's hide), Bhuta Yadnya's Balang Bungkem, and dog spinning, which still occurs in Bulgaria, to name a few. There was supposedly a practice in ancient Greece where dogs were offered to Eileithyia, an earth goddess who oversaw birth and was associated by some with Hecate. And there are those in modern times who still offer up dogs for various rites. I don't condone such practices.

There are sayings that when a person hears dogs howling they are sensing the presence of Lilit or some force associated with the Sitra Achra ("other side")... This may actually come from how the text of Isaiah is read: "...et Iyyim... al re'ehu yikra..." "The Jackals/Wolves to their companion/consort cry out." So lilit and wolves are associated with crying out or screeching in anguish, howling, etc.

In my tradition, there is an association between Lilit, Heka/Hekate, Sophia, and many of the near-eastern goddesses of love, beauty, and wisdom.
Without going too much further into it, we associate her with Em Kol Hai, the "Mother of All Living" and Hayah - Life which was another name for Eve before the expulsion of the Garden of Eden. Hayah is a word which not only means life but also can be translated to mean beast.

In Kabbalah, there is an esoteric association with the matriarch Rachel with Lilit. To unpack this would require a lengthy amount of exegetical discussion on Lurianic metaphysics. That said, her son Benjamin is blessed by his father Jacob in Genesis 49:27:

"Binyamin zeev yitraf baboker yokal ad w'la'erev yi'halek shalal"

"Benjamin is a ravenous wolf, in the morning he will devour prey and in the evening he shall apportion the spoils."

There is a Midrashic interpretation that this meant that Benjamin was literally a werewolf who stood a chance of transforming and maiming travelers on the road to Egypt from Canaan, and so his father and brothers did not want him to travel unattended.

Apart from this coming from the Hebrew mystical side of things, I have found some speculative associations between Valkyries, Erelim, Odin, and Lilim. But I need to consider if it's something worth sharing before I proceed to post another wall of text.
 

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WARNING: the following contains information that some may find disturbing, regarding the mistreatment of animals!

From the text of the Torah itself, Isaiah 31:14 says the following (this is my rough transliteration and translation):

"u'Page'shu Tziyyim et Iyyim w'Seir al re'ehu yikra ahk sham hirgiah Lilit u'matze'ah lah manoahk."

"And shall mingle/dwell the beasts of the wilderness/desert, the Jackals/Wolves, the wild goat, and to its companion/consort shall cry out/call forth, and so there shall repose/find ease Lilit/Creatures of the Night and find for herself a place of rest."

The text connotes an association of Jackals/Wolves with Lilit. There are texts that associate her with the symbol of the black dog. In ancient times and sometimes modern, regrettably, dogs were treated very poorly, abused and sacrificed, likely due to this superstition finding its way into various religions and mystical practices. One can look into the Roman Supplicia Canum, Lupercalia (the derivation of leather straps from dog's and goat's hide), Bhuta Yadnya's Balang Bungkem, and dog spinning, which still occurs in Bulgaria, to name a few. There was supposedly a practice in ancient Greece where dogs were offered to Eileithyia, an earth goddess who oversaw birth and was associated by some with Hecate. And there are those in modern times who still offer up dogs for various rites. I don't condone such practices.

There are sayings that when a person hears dogs howling they are sensing the presence of Lilit or some force associated with the Sitra Achra ("other side")... This may actually come from how the text of Isaiah is read: "...et Iyyim... al re'ehu yikra..." "The Jackals/Wolves to their companion/consort cry out." So lilit and wolves are associated with crying out or screeching in anguish, howling, etc.

In my tradition, there is an association between Lilit, Heka/Hekate, Sophia, and many of the near-eastern goddesses of love, beauty, and wisdom.
Without going too much further into it, we associate her with Em Kol Hai, the "Mother of All Living" and Hayah - Life which was another name for Eve before the expulsion of the Garden of Eden. Hayah is a word which not only means life but also can be translated to mean beast.

In Kabbalah, there is an esoteric association with the matriarch Rachel with Lilit. To unpack this would require a lengthy amount of exegetical discussion on Lurianic metaphysics. That said, her son Benjamin is blessed by his father Jacob in Genesis 49:27:

"Binyamin zeev yitraf baboker yokal ad w'la'erev yi'halek shalal"

"Benjamin is a ravenous wolf, in the morning he will devour prey and in the evening he shall apportion the spoils."

There is a Midrashic interpretation that this meant that Benjamin was literally a werewolf who stood a chance of transforming and maiming travelers on the road to Egypt from Canaan, and so his father and brothers did not want him to travel unattended.

Apart from this coming from the Hebrew mystical side of things, I have found some speculative associations between Valkyries, Erelim, Odin, and Lilim. But I need to consider if it's something worth sharing before I proceed to post another wall of text.
Extremely informative. If you want to do a write up of your knowledge on it I would be very interested in reading it and will preserve it.
 
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Why do you think you need a 'goddess' for lycanthropy? It's simply morphing into a wolf when out of body.

When you do that, you sort of 'run wild' while the inner observer remains unmoved. It's not revelatory but it is interesting.

And contra Kenneth Grant, it isn't some super key to immortality (he liked to make shit up apparently)
 
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