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[Opinion] objects that are sacred or holly

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Debating tallit, I came to thinking about what makes object sacred or holly. I find it rather difficult to answer. Seems to me that it is just like beauty rather in the eye of the beholder than in the object itself.

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I first wanted to reply to your other thread, but didn't. When I was a kid we went on a vacation to Denmark. After going to a museum, and then a walk on the beach, my younger brother suddenly showed us a massive stone. It has the shape of an egg and on both sides is a carving of an egg as well. He might have found it there on the beach (that's the story) or he might have sneaked it out of the museum.
My parents have always thought it was just a stone, I always thought it was more than that (even if it does nothing for / to me as far as I can tell) Fifteen years ago or so I posted a picture of it on another forum and the pagans said it was a paleolithic goddess stone and if I would meditate with it I would feel the power.
Maybe it's a modern art piece, maybe it's just a stone that got its shape from the elements, maybe it's a sacred fertility idol that was crafted 1000 years ago. If it is Holy? I don't know but I like to think it is. It sits under a glass in my temple room but (sadly) I haven't felt any power from it.
 

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Debating tallit, I came to thinking about what makes object sacred or holly. I find it rather difficult to answer. Seems to me that it is just like beauty rather in the eye of the beholder than in the object itself.

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My vote:

In a word: "significance". The more layers of significance, the better. The tighter the integration of those layers, the better.

It is "in the heart and mind" of the "beholder".

It's completely subjective. But, there are common archetypes and motifs which consistently illicit thoughts and emotions which are in harmony and/or resonance with the ritual practice ( or even mundane activities )
 
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Debating tallit, I came to thinking about what makes object sacred or holly. I find it rather difficult to answer. Seems to me that it is just like beauty rather in the eye of the beholder than in the object itself.

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The Manuale Exorcismo of the Catholic Church warns the exorcist of confusing the power of the operation with the objects, tools, or incantations. They claim that if the exorcist places belief in the tools of the ritual as whats causing effect he will surely fail, for the power at its core comes from complete unwavering and unshakable faith in God.

The object may be sacred or holy but its contingent upon faith first and faith alone.
 

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The Manuale Exorcismo of the Catholic Church warns the exorcist of confusing the power of the operation with the objects, tools, or incantations. They claim that if the exorcist places belief in the tools of the ritual as whats causing effect he will surely fail, for the power at its core comes from complete unwavering and unshakable faith in God.

The object may be sacred or holy but its contingent upon faith first and faith alone.
Now that is interesting note. I wonder how difficult it is for exorcist to keep such mindset.
 
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