What's the Most Unhinged/Controversial Occult Insight you have?

[Mars]

Like facts, circumstances, laws, theories, things you concluded or found out etc.

It randomly occured to me (my demon dommy mommy told me to) that I should make this post with this title, curious what happens

 

[Graycrow]

Hmph, the path to understanding is as varied as the stars in the night sky. If the river of belief carries you, then its currents are true. If it does not, seek another stream. What nourishes one may poison another. If a practice bears fruit for you, then savor it. If it remains barren, let it wither.

The limits of our world are but the limits of our own minds. If you believe you hold the key, the door will open. If doubt clouds your vision, the path remains hidden. What resonates as truth for one may be illusion for another, and what serves the collective may stifle the individual. If your heart sings with its reality, then reality it is. If it remains silent, then seek elsewhere for your song.

Take from this what you will. Leave the rest for the crows

 

[Morell]

The world and life... well, it is about learning, but not about justice.

 

[Mannimarco]

I have two.

All magick is Chaos Magick, just with less honesty. None of the lore actually happened, and human attention and belief created every last bit of it. Most of it can be useful, if viewed for what it is.

Humans have been put on this planet to be farm animals, for our negative emotions, and our souls. Perhaps for other things as well. As per Jupiter Ascending, basically.

 

[Morell]

All magick is Chaos Magick, just with less honesty. None of the lore actually happened, and human attention and belief created every last bit of it. Most of it can be useful, if viewed for what it is.

Love this. I think you're very correct with it.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

Like facts, circumstances, laws, theories, things you concluded or found out etc.

It randomly occured to me (my demon dommy mommy told me to) that I should make this post with this title, curious what happens

The universe wasn't created by one source of being. It was created by two.

 

[AlfrunGrima]

Hmph, the path to understanding is as varied as the stars in the night sky. If the river of belief carries you, then its currents are true. If it does not, seek another stream. What nourishes one may poison another. If a practice bears fruit for you, then savor it. If it remains barren, let it wither.

The limits of our world are but the limits of our own minds. If you believe you hold the key, the door will open. If doubt clouds your vision, the path remains hidden. What resonates as truth for one may be illusion for another, and what serves the collective may stifle the individual. If your heart sings with its reality, then reality it is. If it remains silent, then seek elsewhere for your song.

Take from this what you will. Leave the rest for the crows

This is a beautiful text!

 

[Robert Ramsay]

All magick is Chaos Magick, just with less honesty. None of the lore actually happened, and human attention and belief created every last bit of it. Most of it can be useful, if viewed for what it is.

This, plus that there is a scientific basis behind magic that is compatible, and indeed proceeds forth, from our most successful physical theories.

 

[DemiGodBenson]

Hmph, the path to understanding is as varied as the stars in the night sky. If the river of belief carries you, then its currents are true. If it does not, seek another stream. What nourishes one may poison another. If a practice bears fruit for you, then savor it. If it remains barren, let it wither.

The limits of our world are but the limits of our own minds. If you believe you hold the key, the door will open. If doubt clouds your vision, the path remains hidden. What resonates as truth for one may be illusion for another, and what serves the collective may stifle the individual. If your heart sings with its reality, then reality it is. If it remains silent, then seek elsewhere for your song.

Take from this what you will. Leave the rest for the crows

Beautiful!!!!!!!
⌚️

 

[IllusiveOwl]

That we believe the lies we tell ourselves for comfort and orientation in a world wholly alien to us, because we have been severed from it by thick barriers of greater foundational lies told to us the moment we had the cognition to integrate them.

That our personalities and individuality is just a constellation preferred lies and myths, crafted around impersonal fluctuations within an unconscious and mindless ocean.

That we're all one and the same being, within and made up of that being.

 

[Aldebaran]

The universe wasn't created by one source of being. It was created by two.

Can you expand on this please

 

[FireBorn]

Hmph, the path to understanding is as varied as the stars in the night sky. If the river of belief carries you, then its currents are true. If it does not, seek another stream. What nourishes one may poison another. If a practice bears fruit for you, then savor it. If it remains barren, let it wither.

The limits of our world are but the limits of our own minds. If you believe you hold the key, the door will open. If doubt clouds your vision, the path remains hidden. What resonates as truth for one may be illusion for another, and what serves the collective may stifle the individual. If your heart sings with its reality, then reality it is. If it remains silent, then seek elsewhere for your song.

Take from this what you will. Leave the rest for the crows

I 100% agree. Much more eloquent than I could put it as well. I love seeing others post like this!! it reaffirms my reason to talk with other practitioners. Thank you for this!

 

[Swampdweller900]

I have two.

All magick is Chaos Magick, just with less honesty. None of the lore actually happened, and human attention and belief created every last bit of it. Most of it can be useful, if viewed for what it is.

Humans have been put on this planet to be farm animals, for our negative emotions, and our souls. Perhaps for other things as well. As per Jupiter Ascending, basically.

I'll also agree 100% with the first part.

Where I dissent is the farm animal thing as the premise. Real life is full of parasites, from tape worms to malaria to energetic parasites to people who just need attention. We're complex animals, but that doesn't excuse us from the hazards of existing on this planet in this 3D space or existing as consciousness in the universe. Prior to 150 years ago, amebae and bacteria causing dysentery and hookworm were parasites common in most Americans. We collect entities and attachments that do, IMO, feed on our negative energy, because we have plenty to spare, and any surplus of energy is bound to find a thief one day. But it doesn't need to be organized. A company didn't start malaria to sell anti-malarial medication. Malaria is a parasite that filled an evolutionary niche to live inside animals with extra energy, moved around by a single stage of life of a bug that drinks animals' extra blood because they have plenty to spare. They don't care that they kill us because they enjoy us long enough to reproduce. That's all they care about. One day we'll diagnose spiritual malaria and say "oh, damn, the shamans were right all along? Crazy!" But that doesn't mean it all has to be organized. It's a mess. Life is messy and that's why you and I are having different experiences.

As entities, we chose to be here. We asked to be here as we are, where we are, and are plinko-gaming our timeline forward as best we can. It's not always lovely and sunshine puppydog good times, but it's experiences to have and things to feel and see and do as humans. No one is perfect, because that would be boring AF. Have you ever contemplated the insanity that is a suggestion of spending eternity in Christian heaven? It sounds like being a robot in a robot zoo.

Related to this - My hottest take is that while it's nice to know how things like the universe work, it's not necessary to winning at life. Being in control of your energy to keep clean, keeping a positive outlook so you don't attract negative attachments, is about it as far as fundamentals go. And lots of people do that naturally and love life. Ego isn't even reeealy needed, and IMO it's what leads to one form of hauntings, but ego does help drive a unique path. I do also think that toeing the line between magic, which is intention and energy directed by ego flexed to some degree, and egolessness is a good sweet spot, but it's also not always practical. It's also a great thing to say as a privileged person from a wealthy country.

 

[stalkinghyena]

No one is perfect, because that would be boring AF.

Yeah, that was my insight too.

Oh, but I had also one about Levi's Baphomet. This composite symbol is like a lens into the grinding drag of the constant conjunctions of bundled perceptions - it taps into the clock-like part of consciousness that is always saying: "Fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck..."
The friction of birth-death-rebirth, etc. Where the rubber meets the road, all the time.

 

[AlfrunGrima]

This, plus that there is a scientific basis behind magic that is compatible, and indeed proceeds forth, from our most successful physical theories.

(I started reading your book today... give me some time to chew on)

 

[Mannimarco]

But it doesn't need to be organized

It doesn't need to be, but it is.

As entities, we chose to be here

Lies, to shut the dissenters up

 

[Robert Ramsay]

(I started reading your book today... give me some time to chew on)

Thank you!

 

[Swampdweller900]

It doesn't need to be, but it is.

Lies, to shut the dissenters up

I mean, we don't have to agree on this - the friction is a feature, not a bug, after all.

You don't even need to respond, I'm not trying to provoke debate. I'm just asking you to think through the logical question of: In the mundane 3D world, parasites exist on every imaginable scale of life on this planet. Plants have them, microscopic organisms have them, all the way up to the largest life forms on this planet have some rather large things living on them. Parasites eat their hosts across every single inch of this planet that hasn't been sterilized by "civilization." Sometimes many of them, aggressively. But are the worms in charge?

 

[Mannimarco]

In the mundane 3D world, parasites exist on every imaginable scale of life on this planet. Plants have them, microscopic organisms have them, all the way up to the largest life forms on this planet have some rather large things living on them. Parasites eat their hosts across every single inch of this planet that hasn't been sterilized by "civilization." Sometimes many of them, aggressively. But are the worms in charge?

I'm well aware of what parasites are, and they have absolutely nothing to do with the earth being a human energy/soul farm. I don't know where you are getting this from, but it sounds like an intentional red herring. Like i said, it's similar to the plot of Jupiter Ascending. We are seeded, and we are harvested. Of course parasites exist, but are uninvolved in the big picture.

I'm just asking you to think through the logical question of:

I'm just asking you to stop thinking about metaphysics logically, and think magickally.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

Can you expand on this please

I don't believe in universal good or evil, just chaos and order. One dissolve things, material of abstract ideas, into their basic elements, and remakes them in a new image; destruction and creation. The other doesn't actually create, but assigns form and function to creation, establishing cosmic order, and maintaining it. The first, though, seeks to challenge, and ultimately change, the status quo.

I call them Zyphrose (cosmic order) and Ulagash (cosmic chaos).