[Help] Beeing invisible and having no presence

[ShadyDuck]

I am not sure what could be attributed to this but lately I have been more "invisible". It's always been an issue and has had it ups and downs but lately it's worse. It's not like oh I feel invisible. It's the type of invisible like I have no presence. Online I might chat with no response, people around might not even notice I am there or avoid talking to me. They can have a chat and when I speak poof right past what I say The other day in a bus the ticket guy just went past me or the doctor today to all the previous people gave them their results and talked to them to me just handed the results and that was it , I speak to people and they don't hear me unless I repeat multiple times.
I am good looking and 5'11 so it's not like they avoid me cause I'm ugly.

Is there a ritual or something to increase my presence or maybe a reason I am loosing this presence either that being energy issues .
I understand that it's vague but where I am from its not like I can just talk to someone to read my aura or see if I'm cursed or whatever

(As you can. Probably

 

[HoldAll]

This is by way of the principle "Always seek mundane explanations before you start investigating occult ones":

Most people aren't aware of their own facial expressions, their body posture, and their communicative behaviour. Note that I didn't write "Most people probably aren't…" or "Most people may not be…" which signals being undecided and uncertain, which makes people less likely to take you seriously. (I wrote "Most people…" and not "People..." to hedge my assertion though ). If you use 'might', 'maybe' or 'some people say' (= hiding behind others), you sound less self-assured then when you say "Personally, I think..." or "In my opinion…". Use 'I', 'me', 'myself', etc. a lot more to boost the presence of your online voice.

A friend once told me of this salesmen training course he went to where you were filmed during sales role plays, and everybody was amazed about how they really looked as opposed to their subjective image of themselves (and how often each and everyone touched their noses!), a real eye-opener for him. Try recording your own voice, it's just as strange.

Body language: if standing up straight (NOT ramrod stiff!), holding your head high, pulling your shoulders back a little, breathing deeply down into your belly, and tilting your pelvis slightly forward and upward when talking to people makes you uncomfortable, it means that your body (and thus your mind!) wants you to remain unobtrusive and is too scared to express dominance in a physical way. Body language is too a large extent culturally determined though, what signals robust self-assurance in one culture may be interpreted as coming on too strong in others.

If you're doing all this stuff anyway… how to acquire charisma is one of my main fields of occult interest. Conscious resolutions and affirmations don't work for me, apart from this, I'm still searching.

 

[Yazata]

I am not sure what could be attributed to this but lately I have been more "invisible". It's always been an issue and has had it ups and downs but lately it's worse. It's not like oh I feel invisible. It's the type of invisible like I have no presence. Online I might chat with no response, people around might not even notice I am there or avoid talking to me. They can have a chat and when I speak poof right past what I say The other day in a bus the ticket guy just went past me or the doctor today to all the previous people gave them their results and talked to them to me just handed the results and that was it , I speak to people and they don't hear me unless I repeat multiple times.
I am good looking and 5'11 so it's not like they avoid me cause I'm ugly.

Is there a ritual or something to increase my presence or maybe a reason I am loosing this presence either that being energy issues .
I understand that it's vague but where I am from its not like I can just talk to someone to read my aura or see if I'm cursed or whatever

(As you can. Probably

Usually what you have is what is sought: Being able to do things (or be) unnoticed.
If you're sure colleagues / friends aren't simply doing it because it bothers you, then make it known that you are there. Snap your fingers, say "hey?!" or wave when someone ignores you.
Magick-wise an invocation of Leo / Ariel might help you. But maybe you should savour this quality you have instead.

 

[ShadyDuck]

This is by way of the principle "Always seek mundane explanations before you start investigating occult ones":

Most people aren't aware of their own facial expressions, their body posture, and their communicative behaviour. Note that I didn't write "Most people probably aren't…" or "Most people may not be…" which signals being undecided and uncertain, which makes people less likely to take you seriously. (I wrote "Most people…" and not "People..." to hedge my assertion though ). If you use 'might', 'maybe' or 'some people say' (= hiding behind others), you sound less self-assured then when you say "Personally, I think..." or "In my opinion…". Use 'I', 'me', 'myself', etc. a lot more to boost the presence of your online voice.

A friend once told me of this salesmen training course he went to where you were filmed during sales role plays, and everybody was amazed about how they really looked as opposed to their subjective image of themselves (and how often each and everyone touched their noses!), a real eye-opener for him. Try recording your own voice, it's just as strange.

Body language: if standing up straight (NOT ramrod stiff!), holding your head high, pulling your shoulders back a little, breathing deeply down into your belly, and tilting your pelvis slightly forward and upward when talking to people makes you uncomfortable, it means that your body (and thus your mind!) wants you to remain unobtrusive and is too scared to express dominance in a physical way. Body language is too a large extent culturally determined though, what signals robust self-assurance in one culture may be interpreted as coming on too strong in others.

If you're doing all this stuff anyway… how to acquire charisma is one of my main fields of occult interest. Conscious resolutions and affirmations don't work for me, apart from this, I'm still searching.

I always try to do as much as I can. I always try to search and find the problem in the mundane and I look at magick as a tool to help not when everything else fails. I have seen that charisma and glamour magick might help. Any suggestions?

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Usually what you have is what is sought: Being able to do things (or be) unnoticed.
If you're sure colleagues / friends aren't simply doing it because it bothers you, then make it known that you are there. Snap your fingers, say "hey?!" or wave when someone ignores you.
Magick-wise an invocation of Leo / Ariel might help you. But maybe you should savour this quality you have instead.

Its to the point where I can speak to people multiple times before they respond that's what about me. Thanks for the tip I'll research that

 

[Morell]

As a Norse pagan I would invoke Loki. Trickster has a talent to gain attention of anyone.

 

[Beyond Everything]

Some people are acting 'off' these days as exterior circumstances become more difficult. This is only going to increase, so expect your fellow human primates to really get peculiar.

Increasing your personal energy combined with reprogramming the subconscious can improve this area.

 

[Lucien6493]

Apart from being the envy of anyone that ever had to wear a mask when going into a bank to do a job I will say this -- herd animals are highly sensitized to anything that is different from them, and if you are here, among wizards and witches, you are cloaked by default, so people are only too well aware of you. It is the opposite of invisibility, actually, which works only if you are "not trying" to be either inconspicuous/conspicuous but rather have cultivated the art of blend in without giving your power away. I would advise you to call on the spirit of Kitsune, the power of the fox, and all the more so because it is inseparable from the spiritual gifts offered to the world by the duck. You might surprise yourself. Fox can work a room like nobody's business because most people are identified with all of the subtle deceptions of social masking. They don't try. They bleed. So look at your invisibility as the gift that it is and claim it as your power so that you can walk among mortals as one of them, but only if you want to, not because you must in order to survive or to feel whole.

 

[ShadyDuck]

Apart from being the envy of anyone that ever had to wear a mask when going into a bank to do a job I will say this -- herd animals are highly sensitized to anything that is different from them, and if you are here, among wizards and witches, you are cloaked by default, so people are only too well aware of you. It is the opposite of invisibility, actually, which works only if you are "not trying" to be either inconspicuous/conspicuous but rather have cultivated the art of blend in without giving your power away. I would advise you to call on the spirit of Kitsune, the power of the fox, and all the more so because it is inseparable from the spiritual gifts offered to the world by the duck. You might surprise yourself. Fox can work a room like nobody's business because most people are identified with all of the subtle deceptions of social masking. They don't try. They bleed. So look at your invisibility as the gift that it is and claim it as your power so that you can walk among mortals as one of them, but only if you want to, not because you must in order to survive or to feel whole.

Honestly I'm a bit confused from what you said especially how people are too well aware of me. Anyway thanks for your view and I will definitely research the spirit of Kitsune.

 

[Digiquo]

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Honestly I'm a bit confused from what you said especially how people are too well aware of me. Anyway thanks for your view and I will definitely research the spirit of Kitsune.

He is saying you are not invisible, but rather the active object of ignorance. You aren't ignored because you're unnoticeable, but because people don't want to acknowledge you.
Whether that's actually the case or not I don't know, but like the first reply said this is much more likely to be a mundane problem than an occult one. Maybe your natural speech pattern is slurred or arrythmic, maybe you lack the ability to read important social cues, maybe you're broaching topics of conversation that most people aren't interested in or makes them uncomfortable. There are a lot of reasons that can explain why someone is socially estranged or repugnant that have nothing to do with magic.

 

[Aldebaran]

Take a look at Glamour Magick - it's perfect for what you're trying to achieve. Glamour magick isn't just for young girls on TikTok. Well, okay, mostly it is , but it also has legitimacy. It can help you enhance your presence and the energy around you. Much of it is dedicated to magickally improving how others perceive and interact with you — not through manipulation, but by encouraging you to make changes within yourself.

 

[Lucien6493]

Honestly I'm a bit confused from what you said especially how people are too well aware of me. Anyway thanks for your view and I will definitely research the spirit of Kitsune.

Well, let's use me as an example. It may be a bad one, but there ya go. Social invisibility is the story of my life. I relate to everything you said. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, and whenever I mingle on social media or out in the world I'm still at it. Now, I'm not saying or implying that you are an Intuitive Introvert but what you call invisibility is totally normal for some people, and for intuitive introverts especially because we live in an extroverted world that isn't looking for honesty or depth or true connection. But, we can't help it. It is our vibe. We look laid back, but we see through all of the little lies right through to who people are, to everything that they are hiding and most people just can't deal with it, so they close rank because we come across as seriously intense.

It's like if the real vampire Lestat crashed a party in Brentwood disguised as Brad Pitt. And he would clear the room faster than a family of skunks could because even if half the people at the party were as dense as bricks they would sense that something dangerous and threatening to their world-view just walked through the door. But trust me on this, Duck....some of us here would give anything to meet him. We are in tune with forces that threaten the establishment. What you project to the world is more like "hey, hi!" in these parts, and it really hurts personally when someone is outcast for walking their talk, because what people are so scared of in an altogether lost and shallow world is desperately needed.

 

[deci belle]

OP said:

Being invisible and having no presence.​

One should be so lucky~ imagine what I could get away with not doing if such were the case…

 

[Yazata]

where I am from its not like I can just talk to someone to read my aura or see if I'm cursed or whatever

I feel like an ass for not bringing this up earlier, but we have the great Omee who offers readings here:

https://wizardforums.com/threads/tarot-readings.14851/