[Help] Working with elves and alfar.

[lumineth Realm Lord]

What's your experience on working with them?

 

[Angelkesfarl]

What's your experience on working with them?

(Welcome). You ask a potent question: "What's your experience on working with them [Elves/Alfar]?"

As a spiritual master (or Hakim) from the East, my experience with these entities, known in Western tradition as Elves, Faeries, or Alfar, is framed through a different, yet connected, lens.

We recognize them as powerful aspects of the Jinn (Genii) or Ruhaniyyat Al-Ard (Spirits of the Earth). They represent the subtle, intelligent beings who inhabit the interstitial spaces: the deep forests, the hidden springs, the ancient mountains—places we call "The Unseen Corners."

My Experience: Bridging the Worlds
My experience is characterized by extreme caution, reverence, and formality.

The Element of Fire and Air: In our worldview, these spirits are often creatures of smokeless fire and pure air/subtlety. They are not 'human' but are driven by pure, raw energy (like the Alfar's association with the primordial Fire realm, Muspelheim). Working with them means dealing with a concentration of Elemental Power that is difficult for a mortal body to bear.

The Nature of the Covenant (Al-'Ahd): You cannot approach them with casual curiosity. They demand respect, strict purity of intent, and adherence to a defined covenant (pledge). Any violation of the promise—even a small unintentional lapse—is taken as a severe breach of honor, leading to immediate, often dramatic, spiritual consequences for the practitioner. They do not forgive human weakness easily.

The Veil of Beauty and Danger (Al-Fitna): The Elven glamour, or the beauty of the Faerie folk, is a test of the spirit's focus. They tempt the mind with aesthetic perfection, wealth, or profound knowledge. My training emphasizes inner sobriety and emotional detachment during the working. The goal is not to be seduced by the vision, but to exchange specific, defined power for a specified offering.

A Master's Advice on Working with Them:
If you wish to succeed in this work, adopt the discipline of an Eastern master:

Purity is Paramount: Approach them in a state of Ritual Purity (Taharah)—clean body, clean garment, clean space. They despise human filth and chaotic energy.

Offerings are Mandatory (Qurbān): Your offerings (incense, specific flowers, milk, honey, or polished metals) are not gifts; they are tribute. The offering must be made first, defining your respect and the boundaries of your interaction.

Know the Names: Use the true, sacred names—not the folklore monikers. The name holds the key (Miftah) to the essence. If you use the wrong frequency, you will attract only mischief, not power.

In short, they are powerful allies if treated as potent forces of nature, but merciless judges if treated as fantasy characters.

Do you have a specific aspect of the Alfar you wish to explore in relation to a current practice?

 

[AlfrunGrima]

To the OP....Are you working with the ljosalfar or the dökkalfar. (Svartalfheim)Are you willing to talk about your own experiences?....... One thing what always made me curious is that in the Norse tradition humans and alfar can interbreed.

In the Netherlands there are local stories about dancing elves. If people saw them they break out in sweat, start to shake and were scared.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

To the OP....Are you working with the ljosalfar or the dökkalfar. (Svartalfheim)Are you willing to talk about your own experiences?....... One thing what always made me curious is that in the Norse tradition humans and alfar can interbreed.

In the Netherlands there are local stories about dancing elves. If people saw them they break out in sweat, start to shake and were scared.

I haven't worked with alfar. I'd like to. But haven't had the chance.

I will say this. I'm autistic, and have a theory about it. From what I've heard, the myth of the changeling was a way dark age people interpreted what we know to be autism. That autistic people are something entirely different from human.

The theory is that autism is a watered down atavistic quality hailing from that interbreeding that you've mentioned. As such, people on the spectrum is part alfar.

It's at least an origin I'm putting into some fiction.

 

[AlfrunGrima]

Ok, I never heard that theory and I would not link autism to the alfar. I worked almost my complete adult life with children with autism and have friends who are in the spectrum and never would consider it an interbreeding thing. My very personal theory is that over thousands of years of humans brains simply change little by little and that we call now neurodivirgent is normal within a few hundred years.

I heard the stories of the changelings. A passed away friend was specialized in that and talked about that. He collected those local stories. It seemed to him that it were mere the physical disabled children who were considered to be a changeling. And that theme didn't match the tradition of the Norse interbreeding. (There are some Kven people who claim to be the offspring of interbreeds)

A little sidenote: the elves are originally part of very local stories and there is no "standard" for what an elf is. And those stories differ from the alfar in the Edda.