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I’ve had a few experiences with unwanted visitors/entities. Sometimes I am grateful they are gone. Sometimes I wish they would come back so I could study them more. They can be scary tho. Unpredictable and not know what might happen.
I’ve never done ceremonial magick or played with ouija board. But I have become an academic of the occult. I found the best way to fight them is fighting witchcraft with witchcraft.
what are your experiences and what psychic self defence have you had to learn?
I'm a big fan of the "be cautious, but don't be afraid" approach to dealing with any troublemaking entity. I've noticed that they can't really seem to do anything more than annoyingly flail around if you don't acknowledge that they have any power to harm you. It takes time and practice to train yourself to fully believe that sentiment, but it's a barrier that I've found to be more effective than any ward or ritual. Learning to move energy to push them away has also been useful when something is being a persistent nuisance and I don't want to deal with it in that moment.
The most interesting entity I have ever experienced happened when I was much too young to know anything about anything. So, at first it scared me, and used that fear energy to feed. It would come back, over and over, using fear to generate that energy it was feeding on. It used this on my siblings as well. It was a blue cloud full of random sparks to me. I was surprised to find out that it didn't appear the same way to my siblings. Each of us had a different visual effect, and my father couldn't see it at all. My older brother, for example, saw bugs crawling all over himself, and not the actual energy or the entity. An example of being frightened by this thing... it literally grabbed my spine through my skin, wrapping cold tentacles around my spine like fingers and dragging me backwards across a tile floor. Terrified doesn't even come close to covering that.
Over the years of being drained for food, I started to be less and less afraid, until it could no longer scare me. At that point, it started using other emotional triggers. When it then changed and generated feelings of love, joy, and positive in me, it appeared as a glowing ball of warm light. Yet it was still there eating that energy. I had to determine over the years that it was not inherently evil, just hungry. Any and every type of emotion was food, and fear was the easiest food to get from humans. It never really communicated. It was always about feelings and emotions only. I am pretty sure that my dreamwalking ability, the lucid dreams, and the astral projection, were all possible at such an early age because of my interactions with this entity. So it was likely giving or sharing as well as consuming excess emotional energy. Before we moved from that location, we met in the backyard, me in astral, it hovering there. It tilted me backwards, and Orion's belt was visible in the sky. I felt a very strong homesickness emanating from it, as if to tell me that home was out there, with no way to get back...
So, for me, I am not so quick to judge. Perhaps some of these entities have arrived after their own home planet exploded and tossed them out into space, only to crash on Earth and be stuck in a foreign world full of mortal beings. Perhaps they have always been here?
In any case, before trying to harm them, trap them, or control them, try mustering up empathy and love and see if they alter their form to match how you are sending out your E-motional energy. Perhaps in feeding them some positive emotions, you will end up with a helpful friend?
Encountering other entities. The one in my dream appeared to be protecting me from a strangers.
But it was a lie. It was to isolate me. It was to carve me to perfection then be tossed aside. Some entities can be kind some are not.
Discernment is key. People have limits to their energy. If one is repeatedly taking away energy without respecting limits, safety, and health then protective spells and measures can be placed.
Energy can be taken but when its too much for the person that is not good.
Another part of the story from the entities that I met. I lost my community, I lost my friends, I lost everything that mattered to me. All because some random entity/entities? And maybe people affected by it thought I looked like something I wasn't.
After I finally found a place I enjoyed being apart it was ripped away. I can never go back because I was conned. Tricked. That was the one place I thought I had left after everything. I was great in that environment. it mattered to me. It meant everything.
It was the last way I was able to process every terrible thing that happened to me and then it was just ripped away like everywhere else.
Is this justice? Is this fair? I think that was too far. I think I'm going to take a break and recover some of my energy and try to piece my life together.
But some entities I think need to back away and respect that people have limits. People have to eat, wake up, do stuff that they chose to do. Living takes a lot of work and energy. Thats my take.
I summoned one entity a long while back, mentioning the experience here previously. Seemingly benign, I had no idea what it was until recently when I saw a picture of seraphim, thanks to something Morell had posted, and dang, it's very close, especially its flitting characteristic of light (specularity) and liveliness. At any rate, I accepted its graceful intimacy on the first encounter, but the second time, some twenty years later, it appeared spontaneously with no input on my part, so I sent it away, on account of a need to set limits this time~ so I did because I wanted to know who or what it might be— don't these things ever introduce themselves? If it appears again, I might be more curious (or not). We'll see…
Unknown/unwanted entities? Just banish. Read as: "If you dont align with my fire, leave, you do not have my consent to be here". Simple and done. It has always, always worked for me. Against demon, angel, Deity, parasitic entities, etc. It works. Nothing more is needed, full stop.
Psychic self defense? Yeah that's an entirely different kettle of fish. And one more than well worth your time learning. Most of the issues are NOT from spirits. They come from petty, bored, vampiric, parasitic practitioners. I have had it happen. I had to learn the hard way.
Psychic hits aren't fun. I had to learn how to detect, stop it from happening, and strike back. Some practitioners like to fuck with others for sport, or to feed without consent, right up until they get hit back. Hit hard, really hard. They will stop. They are feeding on you for a reason, right up until you fight back. Then they move on to easier pickins. The more knowledgeable and experienced you are, the safer you will be.
Unknown/unwanted entities? Just banish. Read as: "If you dont align with my fire, leave, you do not have my consent to be here". Simple and done. It has always, always worked for me. Against demon, angel, Deity, parasitic entities, etc. It works. Nothing more is needed, full stop.
Yes, agreed. Just a 'stop, here is the red line' with all the will I have in me. That's enough, that is really enough. You have to trust in what you can and act (and be) according to that.
Unknown/unwanted entities? Just banish. Read as: "If you dont align with my fire, leave, you do not have my consent to be here". Simple and done. It has always, always worked for me. Against demon, angel, Deity, parasitic entities, etc. It works. Nothing more is needed, full stop.
Psychic self defense? Yeah that's an entirely different kettle of fish. And one more than well worth your time learning. Most of the issues are NOT from spirits. They come from petty, bored, vampiric, parasitic practitioners. I have had it happen. I had to learn the hard way.
Psychic hits aren't fun. I had to learn how to detect, stop it from happening, and strike back. Some practitioners like to fuck with others for sport, or to feed without consent, right up until they get hit back. Hit hard, really hard. They will stop. They are feeding on you for a reason, right up until you fight back. Then they move on to easier pickins. The more knowledgeable and experienced you are, the safer you will be.
How do you know if a practitioner is targeting you as opposed to a spirit? I don't make enemies but I don't know if you mean like... practitioners attacking at random.
How do you know if a practitioner is targeting you as opposed to a spirit? I don't make enemies but I don't know if you mean like... practitioners attacking at random.
Discernment matters here, and it comes from felt difference, not belief. A spirit presence and a psychic or magical hit from a practitioner dont feel the same once you’ve experienced both.
For clarity (and others can add nuance if I miss something): A psychic hit feels like a sudden energetic jolt, kind of like that moment when you’re drifting toward sleep and someone slams a door. A sharp, intrusive impact, not subtle, and not symbolic. You weren’t shifting states, something pushed.
A practitioner working against you tends to feel heavier and more persistent: fatigue, pressure, emotional dulling, or a sense of being “drained” that doesn’t match your physical circumstances. It often clears when you assert boundaries or push back.
A spirit presence is different. Even when uncomfortable, it usually has a distinct character, a coherence, an intelligence or presence that feels external rather than invasive or draining by default. Other.
I’m not saying this to spread fear, but awareness prevents fear. Most perceived “attacks” are misattributions, stress, or internal noise. But psychic interference does exist, and it’s usually contextual, not random.
Ego, attention, unresolved tension, or energetic mismatch are common triggers, not “enemies.” The solution isn’t paranoia, it’s competence: grounding, boundaries, and knowing how to shut things down when needed.
This is one of those areas where lived experience matters more than theory, and open discussion helps people stay sane and sovereign rather than fearful. Hopefully others with lived experience with this topic will chime in.
I'm a big fan of the "be cautious, but don't be afraid" approach to dealing with any troublemaking entity. I've noticed that they can't really seem to do anything more than annoyingly flail around if you don't acknowledge that they have any power to harm you. It takes time and practice to train yourself to fully believe that sentiment, but it's a barrier that I've found to be more effective than any ward or ritual. Learning to move energy to push them away has also been useful when something is being a persistent nuisance and I don't want to deal with it in that moment.
I have found that is common with people that have these experiences later in life . My major defining one was when I was about 7 and knew nothing of such things outside of religion . However I never felt it was a religious experience . In later life I realized the experience and associated symbols were entirely relevant .
So, at first it scared me, and used that fear energy to feed. It would come back, over and over, using fear to generate that energy it was feeding on. It used this on my siblings as well. It was a blue cloud full of random sparks to me. I was surprised to find out that it didn't appear the same way to my siblings. Each of us had a different visual effect, and my father couldn't see it at all. My older brother, for example, saw bugs crawling all over himself, and not the actual energy or the entity. An example of being frightened by this thing... it literally grabbed my spine through my skin, wrapping cold tentacles around my spine like fingers and dragging me backwards across a tile floor. Terrified doesn't even come close to covering that.
On the mark as well ! Even with multiple witnessed miracles , some discount them due to witness accounts having variation . Here is 'the thing' when we experience or sense things very unfamiliar, our brains create forms to try and comprehend the experience .* Thats why we have similar things ( by 'class' ) in variant cultures but appear different as they are perceived in local 'cultural' clothing ' and on a 'level down ' it can apply to individuals as well . This is very typical of a 'Daimonic Reality ' manifestation ,,, do read Patrick Harpur's book on that, if you have not already .
* a report from Aboriginals that saw their first sailing ship ; '' Out on the horizon was a big thing floating on the water , it looked like an island with clouds around it ( ship, masts and sails ) . As it got closer we thought it must be a big floating shell . Then a water insect got out of it (long boat with oars 'walking' on the water ) it was carrying men on its back . It headed towards us on the shore, but we ran away , maybe the giant water insect was going to get us too ? ''
Over the years of being drained for food, I started to be less and less afraid, until it could no longer scare me. At that point, it started using other emotional triggers. When it then changed and generated feelings of love, joy, and positive in me, it appeared as a glowing ball of warm light. Yet it was still there eating that energy. I
Hmmm .... the transforming part is spot on as well . But the feeding part ???? Mine 'feeds me ' . It is a high aspect of the superconscious , but it seems yours is not that . But still with much 'lower' entities the transformation is a valid , actually desired and important magical work
I'll post this yet again but hide it ( because I might be boring some with it ) ;
O Lord, deliver me from hell*'s great fear and gloom!
Loose thou my spirit from the larvae of the tomb!
I seek them in their dread abodes without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.
I bid the night conceive the glittering hemisphere.
Arise, O sun, arise! O moon, shine white & clear!
I seek them in their dread abodes without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.
Their faces and their shapes are terrible and strange.
These devils by my might to angels I will change.
These nameless horrors I address without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.
These are the phantoms pale of mine astonied view,
Yet none but I their blasted beauty can renew;
For to the abyss of hell I plunge without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.
It is a valid magical and psychological principle ; eg ;
had to determine over the years that it was not inherently evil, just hungry. Any and every type of emotion was food, and fear was the easiest food to get from humans. It never really communicated. It was always about feelings and emotions only. I am pretty sure that my dreamwalking ability, the lucid dreams, and the astral projection, were all possible at such an early age because of my interactions with this entity. So it was likely giving or sharing as well as consuming excess emotional energy. Before we moved from that location, we met in the backyard, me in astral, it hovering there. It tilted me backwards, and Orion's belt was visible in the sky. I felt a very strong homesickness emanating from it, as if to tell me that home was out there, with no way to get back...
So, for me, I am not so quick to judge. Perhaps some of these entities have arrived after their own home planet exploded and tossed them out into space, only to crash on Earth and be stuck in a foreign world full of mortal beings. Perhaps they have always been here?
In any case, before trying to harm them, trap them, or control them, try mustering up empathy and love and see if they alter their form to match how you are sending out your E-motional energy. Perhaps in feeding them some positive emotions, you will end up with a helpful friend?
'' .. fear not the Spirits, but be firm and courteous with them; for thou hast no right to despise or revile them; and this too may lead thee astray. Command and banish them, curse them by the Great Names if need be; but neither mock nor revile them, for so assuredly wilt thou be lead into error. ''
( a horse and dog trainer will agree with that ..... well, unless they really naughty ; '' Curse you, Bluey, by God, you can try my patience ! '' ... some things just have a 'rough nature' )
Hah, I hadn't thought of it that way before! You're right though, it does seem very similar to how you'd want to approach an unfamiliar animal. I guess relaxed caution makes for a good universal language around strangers in general.
Encountering other entities. The one in my dream appeared to be protecting me from a strangers.
But it was a lie. It was to isolate me. It was to carve me to perfection then be tossed aside. Some entities can be kind some are not.
Discernment is key. People have limits to their energy. If one is repeatedly taking away energy without respecting limits, safety, and health then protective spells and measures can be placed.
Energy can be taken but when its too much for the person that is not good.
Another part of the story from the entities that I met. I lost my community, I lost my friends, I lost everything that mattered to me. All because some random entity/entities? And maybe people affected by it thought I looked like something I wasn't.
After I finally found a place I enjoyed being apart it was ripped away. I can never go back because I was conned. Tricked. That was the one place I thought I had left after everything. I was great in that environment. it mattered to me. It meant everything.
It was the last way I was able to process every terrible thing that happened to me and then it was just ripped away like everywhere else.
Is this justice? Is this fair? I think that was too far. I think I'm going to take a break and recover some of my energy and try to piece my life together.
But some entities I think need to back away and respect that people have limits. People have to eat, wake up, do stuff that they chose to do. Living takes a lot of work and energy. Thats my take.
Of course they can overstep, take advantage , do all sorts of things . That is why some get into deep trouble with them ... see the link I put above ... and here
How do you know if a practitioner is targeting you as opposed to a spirit? I don't make enemies but I don't know if you mean like... practitioners attacking at random.
Any half decent ritual should include that ; a test of source and identity . In some ways it doesnt matter if it is spirit that 'sucks' or someones 'suckiness' projected .
Geeze .. I might put one of my short stories up here about that .... is that permissible ?
Hah, I hadn't thought of it that way before! You're right though, it does seem very similar to how you'd want to approach an unfamiliar animal. I guess relaxed caution makes for a good universal language around strangers in general.
.. and snakes . I wa somewhat of a snake handler around here . Sme of the pythons a HUGE and get into peoples houses or yards , then they would call me . Some were amazed at the interaction .
I have done experiments with them ; projecting mental fear , aggression, distaste, repulsion ; snake gets aggressive . Projest the opposite with a '' you come back to my place , plenty of mice to eat there .. at your will, come and go as you please .'' then squatted down, extended a hand a snakey would climb my arm and I take them home . Hint - if they are not hungry and look fat ( do NOT interrupt a skinny snake hunting ! ) and its cold , they will curl up inside your shirt and sit on your lap .
.. and snakes . I wa somewhat of a snake handler around here . Sme of the pythons a HUGE and get into peoples houses or yards , then they would call me . Some were amazed at the interaction .
I have done experiments with them ; projecting mental fear , aggression, distaste, repulsion ; snake gets aggressive . Projest the opposite with a '' you come back to my place , plenty of mice to eat there .. at your will, come and go as you please .'' then squatted down, extended a hand a snakey would climb my arm and I take them home . Hint - if they are not hungry and look fat ( do NOT interrupt a skinny snake hunting ! ) and its cold , they will curl up inside your shirt and sit on your lap .
Oh wow, that's a gorgeous snake! Wish we got ones half that size around here, it's a rare and lucky day to catch sight of a garter snake where I live.
Sounds like an interesting experiment too. I haven't tried the same with animals, but have noticed the same with spirits in how emotions and intentions almost seem to bleed between two beings in the astral, even accidentally. Staying calm and expecting safety usually causes hostility to awkwardly fizzle out, or at least blocks any actual harm from taking place. On the other hand, it can also be tricky to keep my own mood from starting to skew toward matching that of whatever I'm interacting with. It's pretty amazing how two beings can have that kind of influence over each other through thought alone.
..... well, unless they really naughty ; '' Curse you, Bluey, by God, you can try my patience ! '' 