Self initiation / mind training exercises?

[ElectricEgregore]

When I say self initiation exercises or techniques I mean things that may resemble things to
exercise the will and are little challenges that one can do in nature or with other tools elsewhere -
like those I found in the fringe and cringe ONA pdf's that fly around on download pages:

At least I memorize two still, with one you find a proper spot in nature where you can lie undisturbed on a day with clear sky,
you lie down when it gets dark and look into the sky, not being allowed to move until the sky has turned blue again,
getting lost in the stars until there is no sense of body or separation left.

The second one was related to getting naked and lying down in a stream that allows for it in a form of ritual i forgot the specifics about.

These kind of remind me of Wim Hof's cold plunge and naked winter hiking challenges as much as it reminds me of the mind fucks Marina Abramovic
used in her performance art and later her method she teaches in workshops and so on.

I thought of exercises that may be comparable to those mentioned, for connecting with nature and out body deeply,
or to get deep inside ones mind, be as radical as you like, I'm that kind of person that thought of trying body suspension on psychedelics.


Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

 

[beardedeldridge]

Only say things you mean and follow thru. If you say something treat it as fact - if you say it do it. Then accomplish the same thing with your thoughts.

Learn to fast.

Sit somewhere and do nothing. When your mind screams for stimulation continue to do nothing. Sit there until you can sit there and contently do nothing all by yourself. And I mean nothing, don’t let your mind wonder, don’t let it do anything. It will fight you every step of the way and sometimes even after you think you’ve wiped it it will again try to assert its “needs”. Out last it. Do nothing. Master yourself. Then pick up some simple exercises (tower, path, stairs leading downward, control center dial, whatever) and go exploring.

Then start working a magical system.

- Eld

 

[altima]

I recommend also to start working a magical system

 

[Nagaram]

When I say self initiation exercises or techniques I mean things that may resemble things to
exercise the will and are little challenges that one can do in nature or with other tools elsewhere -
like those I found in the fringe and cringe ONA pdf's that fly around on download pages:

At least I memorize two still, with one you find a proper spot in nature where you can lie undisturbed on a day with clear sky,
you lie down when it gets dark and look into the sky, not being allowed to move until the sky has turned blue again,
getting lost in the stars until there is no sense of body or separation left.

The second one was related to getting naked and lying down in a stream that allows for it in a form of ritual i forgot the specifics about.

These kind of remind me of Wim Hof's cold plunge and naked winter hiking challenges as much as it reminds me of the mind fucks Marina Abramovic
used in her performance art and later her method she teaches in workshops and so on.

I thought of exercises that may be comparable to those mentioned, for connecting with nature and out body deeply,
or to get deep inside ones mind, be as radical as you like, I'm that kind of person that thought of trying body suspension on psychedelics.


Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

What are you wanting to accomplish specifically?

It sounds like you're wanting to do some form of meditation but to what end?

There's a few good introductions to meditation. In my opinion, they're all similar enough and the point is to become familiar with the base act of sitting still and clearing the mind.

I started with Aro Meditations "meditate by email" course for beginners. Its pretty good.

 

[Ruzarik]

Only say things you mean and follow thru. If you say something treat it as fact - if you say it do it. Then accomplish the same thing with your thoughts.

Learn to fast.

Sit somewhere and do nothing. When your mind screams for stimulation continue to do nothing. Sit there until you can sit there and contently do nothing all by yourself. And I mean nothing, don’t let your mind wonder, don’t let it do anything. It will fight you every step of the way and sometimes even after you think you’ve wiped it it will again try to assert its “needs”. Out last it. Do nothing. Master yourself. Then pick up some simple exercises (tower, path, stairs leading downward, control center dial, whatever) and go exploring.

Then start working a magical system.

- Eld

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "Pickup some simple exercises", are these mental exercises or astral or?

 

[Firetree]

When I say self initiation exercises or techniques I mean things that may resemble things to
exercise the will and are little challenges that one can do in nature or with other tools elsewhere -

I have done both types ' self initiation' and ..... .... the 'other types' .

Fav self initiation ritual ? The one in the 'Maat Magick ' book ( requires serious dedication of each chakra though ... its fairly advanced thou ) .
Exercise the will and visualization ? There are those Golden dawn Tattwas meditation ( hold the image , then practice combinations )

Post 2 ^ ....

like those I found in the fringe and cringe ONA pdf's that fly around on download pages:

At least I memorize two still, with one you find a proper spot in nature where you can lie undisturbed on a day with clear sky,
you lie down when it gets dark and look into the sky, not being allowed to move until the sky has turned blue again,
getting lost in the stars until there is no sense of body or separation left.

Pure simplicity .... love it !

Have you heard of the LIber NV ritual ? You just captured its essence .

The second one was related to getting naked and lying down in a stream that allows for it in a form of ritual i forgot the specifics about.

Our property adjoins a river going through rainforest and farm land so I do that a lot . Even visitors from the city find relief ; a couple of hours lying in cool clear water , in or near rapids, flow around you .... carry your worries out to sea ! Or find rapids with a gravel bank that allows you to sit , find a whirlpool and sit in the middle ... all around is swirling, but you remain centered and still .

You can do similar in a forest .

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These kind of remind me of Wim Hof's cold plunge and naked winter hiking challenges as much as it reminds me of the mind fucks Marina Abramovic
used in her performance art and later her method she teaches in workshops and so on.

I thought of exercises that may be comparable to those mentioned, for connecting with nature and out body deeply,
or to get deep inside ones mind, be as radical as you like, I'm that kind of person that thought of trying body suspension on psychedelics.


Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

 

[Alion]

I suggest body training as well. It sounds counterintuitive but resent studies suggest that working out is the key for a healthy brain. So if you want a strong mind, you need a strong body.